We had an issue with some earlier rounds today, which caused some of our submitted blocks to fail. The issue was sorted out early this morning, ~5.5hrs ago (I think) from this post. I haven't double checked the round output yet to see exactly how many it affected or for how long, I'll do that shortly.
We'll look at doing a reduced fee promotion or something similar to compensate for the reduced mining time once I gauge the scope. Apologies for the issues.
Unrelated, we also have a large large chunk of rounds not yet traded, mostly as a result of the landslide in alt prices across the board. I'll spend some time tonight doing some manual massaging and doing what I can to push some of these through. Hoping it may compensate somewhat, before payout.
Topic: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows - page 144. (Read 347340 times)
December 02, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
December 02, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Is it just atrocious pool luck today or something not working perfectly? (there seems to be multiple rounds with roughly 10-20% pool luck)
Yes, I noticed this too and I don't think it's possible to have that much bad luck for over half a day or more.
Someting definitely is wrong and I pointed my rigs somewhere else until we get a decent explanation here.
December 01, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
Is it just atrocious pool luck today or something not working perfectly? (there seems to be multiple rounds with roughly 10-20% pool luck)
December 01, 2013, 03:21:02 AM
Hello cows 
, no api key available for us?
, no api key available for us? November 30, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
I've tried to cash out some tag coins from my account but they just won't go out...
Sorry, TAG got left disabled for payouts due to the recent fork problems. I've got to go in and clean up some erroneous balances before re-enabling. I will try and get to this tonight or tomorrow.
November 30, 2013, 09:20:41 PM
I've tried to cash out some tag coins from my account but they just won't go out...
November 30, 2013, 08:54:15 PM
Yes we take it into account. Each coin has a custom 'penalty' applied to its profitability rating based on general stale/reject rate of the coin. FST is fairly high, so has to be quite a bit more profitable (baseline) for us to hit it.
Alright, thanks!
November 30, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
When computing the "profitability" for coins, do you take into account any sort of average stales/rejects from previous rounds mining that coin?
The reason I ask is because the current round seems to be mining fastcoin which just plain sucks with regard to rejects/stales. If the profitability of fastcoin isn't taking into account the ~15% rejects this round then isn't its profitability really ~85% of the reported value of 55 x .85 = 46.75?
(The round just changed to wdc as I was writing this post and it may have just answered my question...)
Looking at the current WDC round profitability of 48.2328, I suppose that your profitability calculation is probably accounting for those rejects/stales, though some feedback would be nice! Also, sorry if this question was already answered, given the flaming that already occurredon this page... the previous page...
The reason I ask is because the current round seems to be mining fastcoin which just plain sucks with regard to rejects/stales. If the profitability of fastcoin isn't taking into account the ~15% rejects this round then isn't its profitability really ~85% of the reported value of 55 x .85 = 46.75?
(The round just changed to wdc as I was writing this post and it may have just answered my question...)
Looking at the current WDC round profitability of 48.2328, I suppose that your profitability calculation is probably accounting for those rejects/stales, though some feedback would be nice! Also, sorry if this question was already answered, given the flaming that already occurred
Yes we take it into account. Each coin has a custom 'penalty' applied to its profitability rating based on general stale/reject rate of the coin. FST is fairly high, so has to be quite a bit more profitable (baseline) for us to hit it.
November 30, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
When computing the "profitability" for coins, do you take into account any sort of average stales/rejects from previous rounds mining that coin?
The reason I ask is because the current round seems to be mining fastcoin which just plain sucks with regard to rejects/stales. If the profitability of fastcoin isn't taking into account the ~15% rejects this round then isn't its profitability really ~85% of the reported value of 55 x .85 = 46.75?
(The round just changed to wdc as I was writing this post and it may have just answered my question...)
Looking at the current WDC round profitability of 48.2328, I suppose that your profitability calculation is probably accounting for those rejects/stales, though some feedback would be nice! Also, sorry if this question was already answered, given the flaming that already occurredon this page... the previous page...
The reason I ask is because the current round seems to be mining fastcoin which just plain sucks with regard to rejects/stales. If the profitability of fastcoin isn't taking into account the ~15% rejects this round then isn't its profitability really ~85% of the reported value of 55 x .85 = 46.75?
(The round just changed to wdc as I was writing this post and it may have just answered my question...)
Looking at the current WDC round profitability of 48.2328, I suppose that your profitability calculation is probably accounting for those rejects/stales, though some feedback would be nice! Also, sorry if this question was already answered, given the flaming that already occurred
November 30, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Heh, seems that today's EST is completely wrong, looking into it some kind of errors.
Thanks for looking into it. Didn't wanna go all crazy being my first 24hr-ish in the pool, just seemed wrong to be so much below straight ltc mining with such favorable profitabilities and that manual calculations of pool luck and what not indicated much better profits than the estimates.
Thanks again.
November 30, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Heh, seems that today's EST is completely wrong, looking into it some kind of errors.
November 30, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
While we're throwing out ideas on how the interface can/should show results, I have one other suggestion. It would be nice if in the round history list there were some marker of when (in which round) the day ended. I mean even something as simple as an asterisk and a note that the prior day's calculations/estimates ended 24:58 into this WDC round would be nice.
November 30, 2013, 04:56:04 PM
Not trying to push on a button or anything, but the rounds seem to give much much more than what I get/gonna get.
I often see round estimates higher than my daily estimate. Estimates are for the fairies, give me results over that any day.
November 30, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
Not trying to push on a button or anything, but the rounds seem to give much much more than what I get/gonna get.
I often see round estimates higher than my daily estimate. Estimates are for the fairies, give me results over that any day.
November 30, 2013, 04:33:46 PM
The daily estimates are updated throughout the day numerous times, its a rough estimate of what you will receive, as it is pretty much near impossible to predict what the rest of the upcoming daily rounds would look like considering it's all based on the future of profitability, blocks found, etc. The daily est, goes by what the past rounds tell us, the way our algorithms are set-up, trades occur very often and coins don't get dumped all at once at a set price, we try to bring you guys the best profits we can. We are always looking to improve things, so if we can come up with another way to better this "est" then we will.
When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
Well, there is something definitely wrong with me then. In the last 2-3rounds alone, my cumulative estimates are higher than my daily estimate. When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
It somewhat scares me considering I've had much lower returns than I should have yesterday (for the time frame I mined) and the estimate was actually what I got. So basically, if tonight I get the estimate too, I will have a total of 0.07btc in a time-frame I should have gotten over 0.2btc..
Not trying to push on a button or anything, but the rounds seem to give much much more than what I get/gonna get.
November 30, 2013, 04:11:48 PM
The daily estimates are updated throughout the day numerous times, its a rough estimate of what you will receive, as it is pretty much near impossible to predict what the rest of the upcoming daily rounds would look like considering it's all based on the future of profitability, blocks found, etc. The daily est, goes by what the past rounds tell us, the way our algorithms are set-up, trades occur very often and coins don't get dumped all at once at a set price, we try to bring you guys the best profits we can. We are always looking to improve things, so if we can come up with another way to better this "est" then we will.
When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
Cool, you guys are great. I'm not really bothered how good the estimate is, guessing is for fools. I want to know what has happened. What has already been exchanged since the last payout.
November 30, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
The daily estimates are updated throughout the day numerous times, its a rough estimate of what you will receive, as it is pretty much near impossible to predict what the rest of the upcoming daily rounds would look like considering it's all based on the future of profitability, blocks found, etc. The daily est, goes by what the past rounds tell us, the way our algorithms are set-up, trades occur very often and coins don't get dumped all at once at a set price, we try to bring you guys the best profits we can. We are always looking to improve things, so if we can come up with another way to better this "est" then we will.
When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
When nearmiss and I talk later tonight, we will see what we can get done to bring you guys what you have requested. We appreciate the feedback.
Stay tuned for updates.
November 30, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
Agreeing with you all - let's have an "Actual Current Balance" readout alongside the daily estimate (which, as many have noted, is questionable at best). That can't be hard to implement.
November 30, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
Well I hope that they are wrong.... I started on your pool yesterday around 1pm EST with roughly 6mh/s. Got .02 btc yesterday and my estimate says 0.059 btc is what I will get today.... So more than half what I should do in 24 hours with 32hours of mining... :s
With all due respect for the cows, and I have much, the estimate is best dealt with by some masking tape on your monitor. I was off line for about 4 hours this morning and my estimate has been 10 times less than yesterday since I came back. I've been here since this pool started, many times I have seen good estimates that ended up bad and bad estimates that ended up good. I'd much rather see what actually happened than a guess as to what might. It would also give me a better sense of how well your autoexchanger is working so I could better decide whether it is worth my trouble to do certain coins by hand or not.
I agree with wanting to see what actually happened. More specifically, I want to see what proportion of the found number of coins is going to me even if I'm having them auto-exchanged. It's annoying having to pull out my calculator to estimate that each time knowing that you have the exact numbers used to calculate the payouts handy on your end. It would be nice getting that percentage during the current round in particular.
November 30, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
Well I hope that they are wrong.... I started on your pool yesterday around 1pm EST with roughly 6mh/s. Got .02 btc yesterday and my estimate says 0.059 btc is what I will get today.... So more than half what I should do in 24 hours with 32hours of mining... :s
With all due respect for the cows, and I have much, the estimate is best dealt with by some masking tape on your monitor. I was off line for about 4 hours this morning and my estimate has been 10 times less than yesterday since I came back. I've been here since this pool started, many times I have seen good estimates that ended up bad and bad estimates that ended up good. I'd much rather see what actually happened than a guess as to what might.
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