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Topic: [ANN][STD] StandardCoin - BUILT-IN EXCHANGE - Permanently Rising Rate (Read 48005 times)
April 08, 2014, 06:24:49 PM
April 08, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
also i have not received any new transactions since my IPO Coins arrived 
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
make sure you're on the new wallet or the pool is.
i'm on the new wallet. not sure if the pool is tho.
April 08, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
also i have not received any new transactions since my IPO Coins arrived
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
make sure you're on the new wallet or the pool is.
i'm on the new wallet. not sure if the pool is tho.
April 08, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
also i have not received any new transactions since my IPO Coins arrived
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
make sure you're on the new wallet or the pool is.
April 08, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
also i have not received any new transactions since my IPO Coins arrived
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
there are at least 8 x 1000 STD transactions showing as being sent from the pool i am on http://std.mining4all.eu.
anyone else having this issue?
April 08, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
speaking of selling coins... any word on bittrex?
+1
April 08, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
speaking of selling coins... any word on bittrex?
April 08, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
from wikipidia:
"Probability is a measure of the likeliness that an event will occur.[1]
Probability is used to quantify an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth we are not certain"
"Probability is a measure of the likeliness that an event will occur.[1]
Probability is used to quantify an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth we are not certain"
I've done statistics at University. And a probability of 1 (or 100%) leaves no room for it not happening.
you say it only scams the later investors .. so actualy you realize it's a scam..I personaly am still not certain of that..
but if this is a scam it would also hurt the miners that would mine at his multipool
but if this is a scam it would also hurt the miners that would mine at his multipool
I mine at multipool and ipominer. It can't hurt me, I sell whatever is the most profitable coin at the time.
April 08, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
from wikipidia:
"Probability is a measure of the likeliness that an event will occur.[1]
Probability is used to quantify an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth we are not certain"
you say it only scams the later investors .. so actualy you realize it's a scam..I personaly am still not certain of that..
but if this is a scam it would also hurt the miners that would mine at his multipool
"Probability is a measure of the likeliness that an event will occur.[1]
Probability is used to quantify an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth we are not certain"
you say it only scams the later investors .. so actualy you realize it's a scam..I personaly am still not certain of that..
but if this is a scam it would also hurt the miners that would mine at his multipool
April 08, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
"probability" or "chance" would still leave a certain amount of uncertainty ,so not definitely without a doubt in my honest opinion.
but let's not split hairs .. the only 100% way to be absolutely sure this is a scam or not is to foresee the future.
but let's not split hairs .. the only 100% way to be absolutely sure this is a scam or not is to foresee the future.
Jim: "What's the probability of that happening?"
Bob: "100%"
Most people would realise Bob meant there is no way in hell that it wouldn't happen.
but I know that if I would like to set up a scam this would be a good way to do it
It only scams the later investors.
April 08, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
"probability" or "chance" would still leave a certain amount of uncertainty ,so not definitely without a doubt in my honest opinion.
but let's not split hairs .. the only 100% way to be absolutely sure this is a scam or not is to foresee the future.
but I know that if I would like to set up a scam this would be a good way to do it
but let's not split hairs .. the only 100% way to be absolutely sure this is a scam or not is to foresee the future.
but I know that if I would like to set up a scam this would be a good way to do it
April 08, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
Well....there is a 100% chance that it is a scam ,thats the problem..
Where I was brung up, "chance" = "probability", so 100% chance = definitely without a doubt.you will only know for sure that it's a scam when the dev has taken the money/BTC 
What the dev could do to make everything more transparent is for instance use escrow and also tell everyone what his other alias here on bitcointalk is..
right now everybody is just trusting an nameless stranger with there hard earned BTC .. thats the part I don't get personally
I'd trust him with a small amount if I was an investor. But I'm a minor not an investor. What the dev could do to make everything more transparent is for instance use escrow and also tell everyone what his other alias here on bitcointalk is..
right now everybody is just trusting an nameless stranger with there hard earned BTC .. thats the part I don't get personally
April 08, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
He's just been trying to show people that with this system the change of beeing scammed is high.. specially when the "multipool" gets into play aswell
everybody is gonna be minning to fill up the stack of BTC even further?
I'm not saying that the dev is gonna take the BTC and run...but with this system he's got every possibillity to do so.. thats one giant red flag in my book!
Let's hope the naive are right this time (but I doubt it)
everybody is gonna be minning to fill up the stack of BTC even further?
I'm not saying that the dev is gonna take the BTC and run...but with this system he's got every possibillity to do so.. thats one giant red flag in my book!
Let's hope the naive are right this time (but I doubt it)
Well it sounded more like he was saying 100% chance of a scam to me.
Well....there is a 100% chance that it is a scam ,thats the problem..you will only know for sure that it's a scam when the dev has taken the money/BTC
What the dev could do to make everything more transparent is for instance use escrow and also tell everyone what his other alias here on bitcointalk is..
right now everybody is just trusting an nameless stranger with there hard earned BTC .. thats the part I don't get personally
April 08, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
He's just been trying to show people that with this system the change of beeing scammed is high.. specially when the "multipool" gets into play aswell
everybody is gonna be minning to fill up the stack of BTC even further?
I'm not saying that the dev is gonna take the BTC and run...but with this system he's got every possibillity to do so.. thats one giant red flag in my book!
Let's hope the naive are right this time (but I doubt it)
everybody is gonna be minning to fill up the stack of BTC even further?
I'm not saying that the dev is gonna take the BTC and run...but with this system he's got every possibillity to do so.. thats one giant red flag in my book!
Let's hope the naive are right this time (but I doubt it)
Well it sounded more like he was saying 100% chance of a scam to me.
April 08, 2014, 09:54:27 AM
The risk is there, and very high given the particular structure of this ponzi, 75% instant loss when you invest. Even the best Ponzi are not eternal (and this is pretty bad and evident).
But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
Funny, I was thinking you were either a troll, or someone with a vendetta against the dev. You're not being constructive, you're just trying to put people off the coin. Maybe you're a rival dev?But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
He's just been trying to show people that with this system the change of beeing scammed is high.. specially when the "multipool" gets into play aswell
everybody is gonna be minning to fill up the stack of BTC even further?
I'm not saying that the dev is gonna take the BTC and run...but with this system he's got every possibillity to do so.. thats one giant red flag in my book!
Let's hope the naive are right this time (but I doubt it)
April 08, 2014, 08:39:03 AM
The risk is there, and very high given the particular structure of this ponzi, 75% instant loss when you invest. Even the best Ponzi are not eternal (and this is pretty bad and evident).
But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
Funny, I was thinking you were either a troll, or someone with a vendetta against the dev. You're not being constructive, you're just trying to put people off the coin. Maybe you're a rival dev? But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
April 08, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
The risk is there, and very high given the particular structure of this ponzi, 75% instant loss when you invest. Even the best Ponzi are not eternal (and this is pretty bad and evident).
But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
But again the problem is not what I or you assume, is he didn't state that, nay he say the opposite, that no loss is possible. I truly believe you are 100% a troll by now xD Must have been the 10th time I repeated that simple concept xD
Was fun but now I have better things to do, really.
April 08, 2014, 07:43:40 AM
Again, and lastly: even if he doesn't he still created a Ponzi, deceiving people (for the fun of it?). If he doesn't cash it out it would be retarded (though very likely he'll do, thus the "extreme caution" is still a fair warning) but he still put up a fraudolent post.
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
Only if you believe a Ponzi to be somehow wrong.
"Ponzi" (wikipedia) means a fraudolent investment scheme where you deceive investors to put money in, telling them no loss is possible (or even that profit is guaranteed), when actually the only way they can profit is if new investors come, losing money in their stead. Eventually new investments will stop and bag holders will lose everything. Exactly what this coin is xD
Deception in itself is wrong. You can do it "legit" by declaring you are running a ponzi (here, for example --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eternalbtcponzi-round2-121-minmax-1fee-trusted-new-round-558656 gambling section).
Otherwise, you are at least a deceiving scammer, like dev is. So he is lying and holding your money, very very bad combo. More than enough for a big fat -xx feedback and extreme caution tagging.
You're assuming investments will stop. And investors now have no danger of that happening.
April 08, 2014, 07:41:27 AM
Again, and lastly: even if he doesn't he still created a Ponzi, deceiving people (for the fun of it?). If he doesn't cash it out it would be retarded (though very likely he'll do, thus the "extreme caution" is still a fair warning) but he still put up a fraudolent post.
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
Only if you believe a Ponzi to be somehow wrong.
"Ponzi" (wikipedia) means a fraudolent investment scheme where you deceive investors to put money in, telling them no loss is possible (or even that profit is guaranteed), when actually the only way they can profit is if new investors come, losing money in their stead. Eventually new investments will stop and bag holders will lose everything. Exactly what this coin is xD
Deception in itself is wrong. You can do it "legit" by declaring you are running a ponzi (here, for example --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eternalbtcponzi-round2-121-minmax-1fee-trusted-new-round-558656 gambling section).
Otherwise, you are at least a deceiving scammer, like dev is. So he is lying and holding your money, very very bad combo. More than enough for a big fat -xx feedback and extreme caution tagging.
April 08, 2014, 07:32:57 AM
Again, and lastly: even if he doesn't he still created a Ponzi, deceiving people (for the fun of it?). If he doesn't cash it out it would be retarded (though very likely he'll do, thus the "extreme caution" is still a fair warning) but he still put up a fraudolent post.
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
A penitent scammer. Would be the first time. Still deserved negative even then
Only if you believe a Ponzi to be somehow wrong.
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