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legendary
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How is their website shady?

BUT more important, it's a fucking website not a program i'm running on my computer so there's no real risk
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I'm really surprised at someone who claims to be smart and know about coding, enough to talk down at me, yet considers an 'investment' in a website to be ok.

It's like saying I'm invested in the Google website while running a Litecoin client. There is no difference as far as I can tell from the PureVidz web site and some yet to be released client.

You're PureVidz 'investment' asset can be taken off line at any second. What are you left with? A bunch of coins, for what purpose?

You are also relying on the 'devs' sharing ad revenues with you to give your 'investment' value. What's to stop him keeping 100% of the money?

While we're on that subject, you should ask yourself why the 'dev' doesn't seem to know very much about TV Addons.

Websites that compete with your 'investment' are suffering because TV Addons scrapes streaming content from websites like PureVidz, removes any ads and makes the streams available to anyone for free. And you're left with a high bandwidth server cost and nothing else. Giving the dev an even greater reason to pump and fuck off.

I don't think you are burying your head in the sand, especially the 20% premine, I think you're either in on what's about to happen to investors or you don't mind the devs giving you and the rest of the dumb investors a right royal shafting when it suits him:



Next.....





if their intent was to just take the BTC and fuck off with it what would be the point in setting goals that need to be reached before the escrows release the funding? that sounds like the worst scam in history

any other coin that i've seen that uses escrows simply launches the main net and says thanks for the bitcoin and the escrows essentially amount to being fuck all useful for anything look at Waves for a example... it's a bit ridiculous that they get access to that entire sum of bitcoin just for launching a network, even scam projects can at least do that much

given their transparency about how the funds are being released if the 20% premine bothers you so much, why not make it a concern of yours to ask them to have the escrows hold it? or to have them hold it on a public address? or something that ensures them not dumping it on the market

while kodi/tvaddons and pure vidz might be similar they work entirely differently, this project at the end of the day is re-inventing the wheel for torrents while stripping out what makes torrents actually worth while using

but again, lets keep talking about pure vidz and my other investments rather than tackle the issues about this project i've presented Smiley because hey, the dev developed a SUPER SECRET otp implementation and has been around for 2 years and therefore is trust worthy to not stick something malicious in his closed source program! xD
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT JUST WALK AWAY!!!!!

Please stop posting here, I wish you all the best with purevidz.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
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How is their website shady?

BUT more important, it's a fucking website not a program i'm running on my computer so there's no real risk
-snip-

I'm really surprised at someone who claims to be smart and know about coding, enough to talk down at me, yet considers an 'investment' in a website to be ok.

It's like saying I'm invested in the Google website while running a Litecoin client. There is no difference as far as I can tell from the PureVidz web site and some yet to be released client.

You're PureVidz 'investment' asset can be taken off line at any second. What are you left with? A bunch of coins, for what purpose?

You are also relying on the 'devs' sharing ad revenues with you to give your 'investment' value. What's to stop him keeping 100% of the money?

While we're on that subject, you should ask yourself why the 'dev' doesn't seem to know very much about TV Addons.

Websites that compete with your 'investment' are suffering because TV Addons scrapes streaming content from websites like PureVidz, removes any ads and makes the streams available to anyone for free. And you're left with a high bandwidth server cost and nothing else. Giving the dev an even greater reason to pump and fuck off.

I don't think you are burying your head in the sand, especially the 20% premine, I think you're either in on what's about to happen to investors or you don't mind the devs giving you and the rest of the dumb investors a right royal shafting when it suits him:



Next.....





if their intent was to just take the BTC and fuck off with it what would be the point in setting goals that need to be reached before the escrows release the funding? that sounds like the worst scam in history

any other coin that i've seen that uses escrows simply launches the main net and says thanks for the bitcoin and the escrows essentially amount to being fuck all useful for anything look at Waves for a example... it's a bit ridiculous that they get access to that entire sum of bitcoin just for launching a network, even scam projects can at least do that much

given their transparency about how the funds are being released if the 20% premine bothers you so much, why not make it a concern of yours to ask them to have the escrows hold it? or to have them hold it on a public address? or something that ensures them not dumping it on the market

while kodi/tvaddons and pure vidz might be similar they work entirely differently, this project at the end of the day is re-inventing the wheel for torrents while stripping out what makes torrents actually worth while using

but again, lets keep talking about pure vidz and my other investments rather than tackle the issues about this project i've presented Smiley because hey, the dev developed a SUPER SECRET otp implementation and has been around for 2 years and therefore is trust worthy to not stick something malicious in his closed source program! xD
full member
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Nodes That Serve

Thanks for clearing everything up..  I rest my case.
see ya next year..

You can at least be honest and say you're bag holding something you consider competition for LBRY.

Nothing is sure in cryptoland

Seems like you're resting double standards and you don't really have much of a case of anything
sr. member
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This thread keeps getting bumped on the main board, so I took a look.

What a great concept. I will be testing out the wallet this weekend.

Are there any other similar projects around on Bitcointalk?
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Thanks for clearing everything up..  I rest my case.
see ya next year..

Hope not.

Despite being invited to give a wish list of feature requests, you decided to be an armchair critic and add nothing to the world.

As you seem to expect a free lunch, PM your bank account number. I'll send you some money for nothing.
legendary
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Thanks for clearing everything up..  I rest my case.
see ya next year..
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.


"it seems that no one actually thought about it"

Again--There are 150 pages. Go and read. Because it has been discussed. As for what system vTorrent will actually use has still not been confirmed (this is at least partly backed up by the dev saying very, very, very early on that he was going to keep most details private because there was another unrelated scam "Magnetz")

What you're saying is that this was a pure speculation investment for two years, since no code of the main feature has been shown yet, and your argument is "but the dev said this is going to be a secret.." ,  how long do you think that "secret" can hold ? another two years?
Come on.. listen yo yourself..

Give me a list of 5 investments that are not speculative. No give me 1.

You do know that you are on a Bitcoin (still in Beta since 2009) forum, talking about alternative currencies.

Want a guarantee? Go buy a fucking kettle.
hero member
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Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.


"it seems that no one actually thought about it"

Again--There are 150 pages. Go and read. Because it has been discussed. As for what system vTorrent will actually use has still not been confirmed (this is at least partly backed up by the dev saying very, very, very early on that he was going to keep most details private because there was another unrelated scam "Magnetz")

What you're saying is that this was a pure speculation investment for two years, since no code of the main feature has been shown yet, and your argument is "but the dev said this is going to be a secret.." ,  how long do you think that "secret" can hold ? another two years?
Come on.. listen yo yourself..

Yes. Exactly.

In any case I've had access to a beta that was never publicly released and although the torrent function was removed (it'd crash the client when clicked) I did find evidence of a few things leading me to understand some things about the project.

"What you're saying is that this was a pure speculation investment"

Wow! Stop the presses! People are speculating on a cryptoproject!
What if there were exchanges where people could trade these "speculative investments" with each other!

Check out this sick roadmap infographic:


Can the dev please add some sick ass dubstep inspired roadmap graphics to the OP and fill up a 600 page whitepaper PDF with some slick technical diagrams like this one:


I'm sure that would help to allay mishax1's fears about this project and turn it into another generic crypto project.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.


"it seems that no one actually thought about it"

Again--There are 150 pages. Go and read. Because it has been discussed. As for what system vTorrent will actually use has still not been confirmed (this is at least partly backed up by the dev saying very, very, very early on that he was going to keep most details private because there was another unrelated scam "Magnetz")

What you're saying is that this was a pure speculation investment for two years, since no code of the main feature has been shown yet, and your argument is "but the dev said this is going to be a secret.." ,  how long do you think that "secret" can hold ? another two years?
Come on.. listen yo yourself..
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
Nodes That Serve
-snip-

How is their website shady?

BUT more important, it's a fucking website not a program i'm running on my computer so there's no real risk
-snip-

I'm really surprised at someone who claims to be smart and know about coding, enough to talk down at me, yet considers an 'investment' in a website to be ok.

It's like saying I'm invested in the Google website while running a Litecoin client. There is no difference as far as I can tell from the PureVidz web site and some yet to be released client.

You're PureVidz 'investment' asset can be taken off line at any second. What are you left with? A bunch of coins, for what purpose?

You are also relying on the 'devs' sharing ad revenues with you to give your 'investment' value. What's to stop him keeping 100% of the money?

While we're on that subject, you should ask yourself why the 'dev' doesn't seem to know very much about TV Addons.

Websites that compete with your 'investment' are suffering because TV Addons scrapes streaming content from websites like PureVidz, removes any ads and makes the streams available to anyone for free. And you're left with a high bandwidth server cost and nothing else. Giving the dev an even greater reason to pump and fuck off.

I don't think you are burying your head in the sand, especially the 20% premine, I think you're either in on what's about to happen to investors or you don't mind the devs giving you and the rest of the dumb investors a right royal shafting when it suits him:



Next.....



hero member
Activity: 522
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I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401

The OP says it aims to be the next limewire or kazaa with a blockchain at it's core, i'm pretty sure they are refuring to being like a content sharing platform, not to function exactly the same as them.


An inbuilt torrent client with the ability to search the blockchain for magnet links, this is what I imagine it to be, but I can't confirm it 100% as I know as much as everyone else.



Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.



"it seems that no one actually thought about it"

Again--There are 150 pages. Go and read. Because it has been discussed. As for what system vTorrent will actually use has still not been confirmed (this is at least partly backed up by the dev saying very, very, very early on that he was going to keep most details private because there was another unrelated scam "Magnetz")
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.


yeah, pretty much gave up on this one a while back.  if it wasn't ready to deploy with at least a hint of the promised features then why post it, lol.

It's not as easy to just build in a simple torrent client into the software - any developer can do that. But to tie it into a token payment system for sharing files as well as implementing anonymity features makes it about 100 times more difficult.

Any one with a technical / development can relate and knows it takes time. Everybody else just has a royal whinge. That's life in the crypto dev space....

I am a dev and the point is that we don't post every idea here the second it hits our heads, we don't announce things until we are within at least the six month range of making it happen, that way people don't lag around for MORE THAN SIX MONTHS waiting on people to finish what they started

That 6 month range is something you have made up arbitrarily. The VTR dev has announced no such timeline for any feature whatsoever.

I'm pretty sure segwit was announced well over 18 months ago and it's only just landed.

And lightning network is coming into its third year since announcement.

And how about that Zcash. 4 years in announcement.

Projects that seem to have amazing fast devs that can release magic code in days or weeks are typically the mouth piece for a scam.
legendary
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Dear all,

If anybody have any suggestions or ideas..............please PM me or reply in thread.


Regards,

vTorrent

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legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401

The OP says it aims to be the next limewire or kazaa with a blockchain at it's core, i'm pretty sure they are refuring to being like a content sharing platform, not to function exactly the same as them.


An inbuilt torrent client with the ability to search the blockchain for magnet links, this is what I imagine it to be, but I can't confirm it 100% as I know as much as everyone else.



Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.

You do have a valid point, but you have trolled this thread quite a lot as a result people don't bother to respond to you.

It does suck that the dev decided to keep the details of how the client is implemented a secret until they are ready. I'm with you on that one.

Provide a features request list.  The dev has been asking for months.

It's not a binary position. They have said you can influence what gets delivered.

If you choose to complain and not offer ideas. How can you complain about the outcome?
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401

The OP says it aims to be the next limewire or kazaa with a blockchain at it's core, i'm pretty sure they are refuring to being like a content sharing platform, not to function exactly the same as them.


An inbuilt torrent client with the ability to search the blockchain for magnet links, this is what I imagine it to be, but I can't confirm it 100% as I know as much as everyone else.



Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.

You do have a valid point, but you have trolled this thread quite a lot as a result people don't bother to respond to you.

It does suck that the dev decided to keep the details of how the client is implemented a secret until they are ready. I'm with you on that one.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401

The OP says it aims to be the next limewire or kazaa with a blockchain at it's core, i'm pretty sure they are refuring to being like a content sharing platform, not to function exactly the same as them.


An inbuilt torrent client with the ability to search the blockchain for magnet links, this is what I imagine it to be, but I can't confirm it 100% as I know as much as everyone else.



Exactly my point, it seems that no one actually thought about it, or about how the whole feature will function..    some people just assume that waiting for two years for something they don't even bothered to understand is a good thing, and everyone who doesn't think like them is a troll.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401

The OP says it aims to be the next limewire or kazaa with a blockchain at it's core, i'm pretty sure they are refuring to being like a content sharing platform, not to function exactly the same as them.


An inbuilt torrent client with the ability to search the blockchain for magnet links, this is what I imagine it to be, but I can't confirm it 100% as I know as much as everyone else.

legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
I appreciate your effort, but I was referring to this - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17202401
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000

If he didn't, I did.   Do I need to quote it for the third time ?

The main core is open source, you know this. The devs said they would look at open sourcing the 2FA when the main client goes live.

As for the question of open sourcing the torrent client, me personally, I like the Idea of a delayed source system, for a minimum of 2 years would be more preferable (the devs need to actually confirm this), why would you spend two years building something for some one to come along and make a 100 shit clone copies, you wouldn't get the full reward for your work.

If you don't like the idea of closed source, then WALK AWAY!!! don't invest your money, not a single dime!

The devs have earnt my trust when the had control over ik_do's wallet and private key (which has a substantial amount) when an error was found to randomly lock users passwords, the devs managed to fix and not a single VTR was unaccounted for.
legendary
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If he didn't, I did.   Do I need to quote it for the third time ?
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