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Topic: [ANN][XRB]Cryptocurrency's killer app: RaiBlocks micropayments - page 100. (Read 775153 times)

newbie
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Very impressed with how fast XRB Transactions are...Massive Volume on Binance...speculation on future price?



It needs to touch a market cap of at least "$84 Billion dollars" to be close to $400 per Nano... and be a second coin behind BTC kickin' out Ethereum...

Realistically it will pass over the 50 bucks, its just my opinion...cheers. (I've lost 750 XRB's under the freakin' Bitgrail case)  Angry Sad Angry
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Very impressed with how fast XRB Transactions are...Massive Volume on Binance...speculation on future price?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
I do not underestimate goodwilled ppl. I simply know there is a lot more of those, who want to be paid for running a node;)

Well won't future gains of mass adoption of XRB essentially pay for running a node for those getting early on? I mean, it already paid itself forward many times over for a lot of people.

sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 252
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which makes the Nano better than any other coin of course the technology itself
Send 10 Receive 10 in less than 10 Seconds
Nano is perfect for peer to peer transactions
you can buy things and instantly pay them without having to wait a long time unlike most other crypto that require you to wait for confirmation time


Bitcoin with his new Lightning Network can that, too. I`m not sure if Nano can compete with Bitcoin, when the Bitcoin Lightning Network is rolled out.  Bitcoin has the first mover advantage and nearly everbody on the planet know Bitcoin. This is why I didn`t invest in Nano.

I guess there are also other coins out there, which can compete with Nano, much cheaper and not so hyped. This was the 2nd reason I didn´t invest in Nano.

But good luck, anyway.

One huge advantage of Nano over the Bitcoin Lightning Network is the absence of fee. With Lightning network you still have to pay a fee to open a channel.


Nano has no advantage over Bitcoin there are so many bugs in the code of this coin. Maybe you are not following this project from early days so many question still unanswered and recent hack on bitgrail left a big question mark on the credibility on this project.

No fee at all > fees to open channels.
Simple as that.

hack on bitgrail left a big question mark on the credibility on this exchange. Bitgrail got hacked, not NANO, as Coincheck got hacked one month ago, not XEM.
Neither NANO nor XEM conduct a hard fork, because the exchanges got hacked, not the coins' underlying tech.

the problem though is that there were many questions about the man in the middle attacks possible on XRB before the hack. There was a big discussion about them on the forum and myself as well as others pointed out that an exchanged can be tricked by a double spend. Of course that was theoretical and until proven it's still theoretical, but  exchange owner blames this on the flaw. What we need is an official answer from the police. Was bitgrail hacked and if so how, or was the owner a crook.


The bitgrail owner wrote bad code and people were double depositing BTC and ETH. They then bought nano twice with their double deposits.

The bitgrail operator blamed the whole thing on nano, so he wouldn't be embarrassed.

It was dishonest, but not a scam. The scammers were the ones who didn't report their double deposits and used them to make buys.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
I do not underestimate goodwilled ppl. I simply know there is a lot more of those, who want to be paid for running a node;)
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Some of us are willing to run 24/7 nodes just so everyone else can enjoy this tech.

Don't underestimate the power of the few willing to do something out of pure altruism for the better of everyone else.

It's not like running nodes will cost thousands a week, if everyone chips in a little we are seeing cents a day for running a node.

I just wish the node running was easier, like a list that tells you which nodes are active or not active. Anyone know of such lists?
full member
Activity: 197
Merit: 190
Is there an eta on when the android wallet will be finalized?  I really don't like using betas and a mobile wallet would come in handy.
newbie
Activity: 67
Merit: 0
It is an interesting project... but the whitepaper link is not working, can you share it please?
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Congrats for all the guys who bought around $6 and almost tripled last week end.

If Coin is bullish in bear market than we should be very careful,what will happen in bull market.

All guys who made huge profits,will sale and invest in other coins which are still in bear market to increase portfolio.

For any coin/token healthy growth is most important than fake news like Coinbase adding or others.

So If you still believe this will be keep sky rocketing,just HODL if you want to take profits just take and wait to re-invest until it stabilize at around 0.00100--0.001200.



Yes, Congratulation to all people who bought it low price, but I want to tell you I bought it in the Mercatox @15.30 USD, I trust the people who said that 
will be moon after listing in the binance, the fact is price dump now.  Embarrassed

You trusted ppl who said... Gratulations.
Anyway, what happened with the price was due to the theft of about 10% of all Nanos, and then selling it on Binance. That's really simple.
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 11
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which makes the Nano better than any other coin of course the technology itself
Send 10 Receive 10 in less than 10 Seconds
Nano is perfect for peer to peer transactions
you can buy things and instantly pay them without having to wait a long time unlike most other crypto that require you to wait for confirmation time


Bitcoin with his new Lightning Network can that, too. I`m not sure if Nano can compete with Bitcoin, when the Bitcoin Lightning Network is rolled out.  Bitcoin has the first mover advantage and nearly everbody on the planet know Bitcoin. This is why I didn`t invest in Nano.

I guess there are also other coins out there, which can compete with Nano, much cheaper and not so hyped. This was the 2nd reason I didn´t invest in Nano.

But good luck, anyway.

One huge advantage of Nano over the Bitcoin Lightning Network is the absence of fee. With Lightning network you still have to pay a fee to open a channel.


Nano has no advantage over Bitcoin there are so many bugs in the code of this coin. Maybe you are not following this project from early days so many question still unanswered and recent hack on bitgrail left a big question mark on the credibility on this project.

No fee at all > fees to open channels.
Simple as that.

hack on bitgrail left a big question mark on the credibility on this exchange. Bitgrail got hacked, not NANO, as Coincheck got hacked one month ago, not XEM.
Neither NANO nor XEM conduct a hard fork, because the exchanges got hacked, not the coins' underlying tech.

the problem though is that there were many questions about the man in the middle attacks possible on XRB before the hack. There was a big discussion about them on the forum and myself as well as others pointed out that an exchanged can be tricked by a double spend. Of course that was theoretical and until proven it's still theoretical, but  exchange owner blames this on the flaw. What we need is an official answer from the police. Was bitgrail hacked and if so how, or was the owner a crook.
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
"Bitcoin sucks by the way. It is slow, it can cost $20 to send some, people spam it and kill the network all the time. Even doge is better."

This was true a few months ago.
The latest Bitcoin Core 0.16.0 has segwit by default. Faster, and low fees.
I'm not sure how anyone is paying $20 fees now?! you must be doing something wrong. I regularly see payments worth over $10,000 and the fee is less than 50c. The days of high fees are over my friend.
https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.16.0
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 104
Congrats for all the guys who bought around $6 and almost tripled last week end.

If Coin is bullish in bear market than we should be very careful,what will happen in bull market.

All guys who made huge profits,will sale and invest in other coins which are still in bear market to increase portfolio.

For any coin/token healthy growth is most important than fake news like Coinbase adding or others.

So If you still believe this will be keep sky rocketing,just HODL if you want to take profits just take and wait to re-invest until it stabilize at around 0.00100--0.001200.



Yes, Congratulation to all people who bought it low price, but I want to tell you I bought it in the Mercatox @15.30 USD, I trust the people who said that 
will be moon after listing in the binance, the fact is price dump now.  Embarrassed
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
Congrats for all the guys who bought around $6 and almost tripled last week end.

If Coin is bullish in bear market than we should be very careful,what will happen in bull market.

All guys who made huge profits,will sale and invest in other coins which are still in bear market to increase portfolio.

For any coin/token healthy growth is most important than fake news like Coinbase adding or others.

So If you still believe this will be keep sky rocketing,just HODL if you want to take profits just take and wait to re-invest until it stabilize at around 0.00100--0.001200.

sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 250
Can anyone share his immediate experience on mobile beta wallet. Approximately 15 hours ago invitations to more than 2000 testers were sent. I hope more and more people will come here to share features and their personal reviews and thoughts in this thread with community.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Thx and thumb-up.
sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 252
Problem is, there's nothing free in this world. Nothing. Where's the value of sth, if it's free? One Bitcoin costs in electricity only is couple thousand of dollars (I don't remember exactly).
Sb always pays for a service, here - money transfer. So ask yourself a question. How free Nano can compete with sth (not necessarily BTC) that ppl get paid for enabling others to use it?

I like Nano as an idea. I invested in it. But I don't see any intrinsic value in it. Just speculation. And the lack of proper PR (like Charlie Lee does for LTC, or dr. Hosp for TENX) just makes me sad.


Let me help you understand. XRB boils down to a proof of stake system. All of the consensus is determined by nodes called representatives. People choose representatives to validate transactions, and their stake is proxied to these representatives.

Where is the value? The value is in the opportunity cost of the XRB. If the value of the XRB is used for something else, like selling the XRB and investing the proceeds in stocks and earning dividends, then this value will make profits. That lost profit (for those who don't sell XRB and invest in other assets) goes into the XRB network. Rather than burning up electricity, or diluting the money supply, individuals simply hold XRB they will use anyway and the opportunity cost is sunk into the value of the system.

That means, the more valuable XRB is, the more secure is the system because the opportunity cost is greater. This is like bitcoin where the more expensive it is to mine a bitcoin, the more secure the system is.

This XRB system requires only that a few people run very inexpensive nodes. If you have a raspberry PI and a $10 SSD card, you can run a representative node for about 2 watts of power. This can easily be paid for by any business that may have an income based on the utility of XRB. For example an exchange, or payment processor, or even a business that simply accepts XRB as a form of payment.

So, even though it requires a little "altruism" to run a node, the investment is negligible for any business, XRB community member, or even hobbyist.

You are right, nothing is free, but in XRB the costs are hidden because they are somewhat esoteric (opportunity costs). But ask any economist or investment advisor and they will tell you that when it comes to investments, opportunity costs are very real.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Problem is, there's nothing free in this world. Nothing. Where's the value of sth, if it's free? One Bitcoin costs in electricity only is couple thousand of dollars (I don't remember exactly).
Sb always pays for a service, here - money transfer. So ask yourself a question. How free Nano can compete with sth (not necessarily BTC) that ppl get paid for enabling others to use it?

I like Nano as an idea. I invested in it. But I don't see any intrinsic value in it. Just speculation. And the lack of proper PR (like Charlie Lee does for LTC, or dr. Hosp for TENX) just makes me sad.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 506
Nano is great tech. But also now Bitcoin is geting faster with Segwit being implemented by Coinbase and GDAX.
Combine that with Lightning Network rolling out soon too. Also Bitcoin Core's next version will have Seqwit by default too.
But hey, Nano's interesting too.
The biggest problem is fees, fees will always be an issue no matter how fast BTC gets.  So NANO will always have that advantage.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 100
When will the devs make a new ANN page for $NANO, this must be confusing to some noobs who are looking for info on it. BTW price is settling down, would rather have organic growth than a pump.

As i know you can looking for information about Nano on telegram or discord channel, but i prefer discord channel because you can find announcement section. Then for Nano price, i think stable now at $12
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