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Topic: ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 124. (Read 355820 times)

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Does anybody think that S2 is an intermediate product before Bitmain releases S3=S1 form factor with a different chip (40nm or 28nm)?
Can S1 form factor even work with 40nm or 28nm chip? I imagine that it could, perhaps with two fans (push-pull)?
I would be thrilled to have the S1 equivalent form factor, hashing at 400-500GH/s.
It would be a huge blockbuster if it will be as reliable as S1 has been (at least in most cases).



The thing is, a simple die shrink wouldn't help efficiency THAT much I don't think, they would nee to do a bit of redesign as well in order to get better efficiency, though a die shrink would help.  They would need to go from 55nm to 20nm to stay competitive or give miners a huge incentive to buy within the next 6 months.

That said, I firmly believe that the S1 form factor is extremely important if BTC is going to succeed. The problem with having all these GIANT units is that they will only be held by small amounts of folks.  I can convince friends and family and other people interested in mining to pick up an Antminer S1 at these current prices very easily, so in that sense, its awesome.  However, the problem with these more efficient big boys is that they cost thousands of dollars.

If Bitmaintech could release a 20nm Antminer S10, or something like that, that was basically a 500 GH.S 20/28nm version with some efficiency and UI upgrades, and sell it for say, 2 btc, I think a lot of people would hop on board, and they could churn these out for at least 6-8 months.
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Where have you seen all this info?

Do I miss anything new?
legendary
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Does anybody think that S2 is an intermediate product before Bitmain releases S3=S1 form factor with a different chip (40nm or 28nm)?
Can S1 form factor even work with 40nm or 28nm chip? I imagine that it could, perhaps with two fans (push-pull)?
I would be thrilled to have the S1 equivalent form factor, hashing at 400-500GH/s.
It would be a huge blockbuster if it will be as reliable as S1 has been (at least in most cases).

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how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high

HW Error Calculation Formula: HW / (diffA + diffR + HW) * 100
it is in % of accepted?
so with 212.5 Mhz i have 0.001% or 0.1% or...?
Should it not technically be: HW / (diffA + diffR + diffS +HW) * 100 ?

and it would be in a % of total work, not only accepted.
legendary
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how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high

HW Error Calculation Formula: HW / (diffA + diffR + HW) * 100
it is in % of accepted?
so with 212.5 Mhz i have 0.001% or 0.1% or...?

Yes thats a % calculation should be less than 1% normally at 180Mhz

If you run higher than 180Mhz then you will get higher HW errors and have just invalidated your warranty.
thanks!
so diffA, diffR it is accepted and rejected?
why there is no diffHW?
could you tell me what is utility?
legendary
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Did it improve something for the S1?
Slightly, they seemed more stable after the firmware and cgminer update.
more stable?  they are the most stable miners out there.  as long as power doesnt go out my S1 miners never go down or have problems.  running 24/7
I guess it also depends on when you bought them... I bought in January in GB6 from Sushi (3btc ea. Shocked) and then from the first batch on the bitmaintech.com website and in the beginning they weren't quite as rock-solid as they are now... I guess.

Later ones come with newer firmware.
legendary
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how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high

HW Error Calculation Formula: HW / (diffA + diffR + HW) * 100
it is in % of accepted?
so with 212.5 Mhz i have 0.001% or 0.1% or...?

Yes thats a % calculation should be less than 1% normally at 180Mhz

If you run higher than 196Mhz then you will get higher HW errors and have just invalidated your warranty.
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Did it improve something for the S1?
Slightly, they seemed more stable after the firmware and cgminer update.
more stable?  they are the most stable miners out there.  as long as power doesnt go out my S1 miners never go down or have problems.  running 24/7
I guess it also depends on when you bought them... I bought in January in GB6 from Sushi (3btc ea. Shocked) and then from the first batch on the bitmaintech.com website and in the beginning they weren't quite as rock-solid as they are now... I guess.
legendary
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how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high

HW Error Calculation Formula: HW / (diffA + diffR + HW) * 100
it is in % of accepted?
so with 212.5 Mhz i have 0.001% or 0.1% or...?
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high

HW Error Calculation Formula: HW / (diffA + diffR + HW) * 100
legendary
Activity: 1001
Merit: 1005
how to understand the column HW in web of antminer S2?
it  is too high
hero member
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Did it improve something for the S1?
Slightly, they seemed more stable after the firmware and cgminer update.
more stable?  they are the most stable miners out there.  as long as power doesnt go out my S1 miners never go down or have problems.  running 24/7
sr. member
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i am not getting $31 a day, i am on btc guild, any suggestions
You can't really calculate in $ due to the price fluctuations... with 1TH/s, you should be making just under 0.08btc/day until the next diff change.

If you're new to BTC Guild, it'll take some time for your daily earnings to increase.

what is some time why?? day 3 and only at .04 a day but averaging 1.01 th/s a day
i dont get it
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Did it improve something for the S1?
Slightly, they seemed more stable after the firmware and cgminer update.
hero member
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So brand new equipment is not usually the best.   Lol

When I sold my 10 s1 last month I advertised them as thoroughly tested.  As new.
I sold mine as used, but already overclocked and optimized with latest firmware and cgminer Wink

yes I manually upgraded all the units to the latest firmware also.

Did it improve something for the S1?
hero member
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So brand new equipment is not usually the best.   Lol

When I sold my 10 s1 last month I advertised them as thoroughly tested.  As new.
I sold mine as used, but already overclocked and optimized with latest firmware and cgminer Wink

yes I manually upgraded all the units to the latest firmware also.
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So brand new equipment is not usually the best.   Lol

When I sold my 10 s1 last month I advertised them as thoroughly tested.  As new.
I sold mine as used, but already overclocked and optimized with latest firmware and cgminer Wink
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I guess it's difficult to tell if one doesn't know the quality of the products leaving their assembly line... maybe they need to mine with them for a few weeks to make sure they actually work properly because 50% of them need to go back for repairs before they are stable enough to ship... just a thought...
The biggest problem with the S2 seems to be that they aren't designed and/or packed properly for shipping.

Most of the BITMAIN miners I've received out-gassed like crazy for 2-3 days. They were clearly not used. I wish they would mine with them for a few days and spare me the fumes. As you say this would also address some of the DOA issues.
Completely agree on the S2 packaging for delivery, it's just too heavy to not have foam between the boards at least... even having the boards plugged in risks damaging the pci slots.

My S1's and my S2 also seemed brand new and unused when I received them, no sign of dust at all... from some of the posts on here though, it does seem like the luck of the draw.
hero member
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I guess it's difficult to tell if one doesn't know the quality of the products leaving their assembly line... maybe they need to mine with them for a few weeks to make sure they actually work properly because 50% of them need to go back for repairs before they are stable enough to ship... just a thought...

The biggest problem with the S2 seems to be that they aren't designed and/or packed properly for shipping.

Most of the BITMAIN miners I've received out-gassed like crazy for 2-3 days. They were clearly not used. I wish they would mine with them for a few days and spare me the fumes. As you say this would also address some of the DOA issues.


So brand new equipment is not usually the best.   Lol

When I sold my 10 s1 last month I advertised them as thoroughly tested.  As new.
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