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Topic: ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 173. (Read 355820 times)

newbie
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Hey Innoman, not sure what you've gone through troubleshooting to date - you sure it's not internet connectivity related, or an issue with the pool you're mining on?  can you try another pool and move it to another location with a different internet connection, just to eliminate them as variables?

I verified it wasn't internet connectivity related and I did try an alternate pool.  I actually did lose internet connectivity briefly around 5am, both of my S1s and my S2 went offline and my pool emailed me but they resumed shortly after without issue.  Also, at some point yesterday, my pool went offline (apparently) because all of my miners showed a bunch of shares on my backup pool.  No issues surrounded any of those events. 

Unfortunately, I don't have anywhere I could move them to to verify my internet connection, I just setup a ping plot to be sure it wasn't related and the issue occurred while the ping was going strong.  It's definitely either software or hardware related.
hero member
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Here are the calcs.
1114W load @ 110V.
90.5% efficient @ 100% load @ 110V.
Internal load of 1008W.

And on 230V
92% efficient
Internal load of 1008W.
External power draw of 1095W.



PSU is specifically designed for 24/7 use @ 50C. Therefore there is a significant thermal safety factor on max load alone - even forgetting the usual one.
Tldr, its k.

We ran a test this morning on our S2 and was pulling 5.2 amps at 208v for a total of 1082 watts. Hopefully the chips are being driven too hard by the cgminer driver and can be calmed down a bit.

This could really though a wrench in my plans for world domination via S2 miners...  Roll Eyes

I thought your plan was BFL Monarch  Roll Eyes.

Is Joshie related to you? rumor says you're family friend :/
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Is anyone seeing an issue where their S2 mines for about 10-15 or so minutes then stops and starts beeping?  This happens every time I power cycle and I have to stop/start cgminer or click "Save and Apply" under miner settings to get it going again.  (I only discovered the second method this afternoon).  After doing this once or a few times (varies), everything seems to work fine (for several hours, at least--still trying to get a good understanding of how often,etc...).

I've checked temps, re-seated boards, updated, checked all settings, power cycled, removed a board and let it run, switched the power cable (I'd initially put an older cable on it and it was getting a little warm in spots so I switched it out pretty quick) and checked all the other visible/accessible connections; all to no avail.  I've been working with Juan at 112bit who is also working with the Bitmain techs.  Just wondering if this is a widespread issue and if anyone has made any headway.


Yeah, I get that too, chasing ghosts right now. Try updating to the latest firmware (mentioned earlier in the thread) it's a firmware issue that'll be sorted out soon enough :-)

Innoman tried the latest firmware but in his case the problem persists, i tried to spread the S2 Batch #1 in many possible customers so more people can test the S2, but in this case really was not the best idea if giga or innoman has 2 or more units in hand all this process will be probably faster because not all our customers are experiencing the same results, in fact I have 1 unit for the Inside Bitcoins this Monday and works perfect.

Anyway Bitmain engineers are working with us to address the issues and avoid same situations in future units.

Juan


I actually misread what you said 1l1l11ll1l, about trying the new firmware; I was actually the one to post that I had tried it and it didn't fix my issue (and also that it did fix the IP subnet issue).  Unfortunately, my unit is still malfunctioning--it would be nice to have a second unit to see if the issue persists with both or if it is just this specific device (i.e. if it is something related to my setup--though I couldn't imagine what it could be).  It would also be nice if bitmain had loaned me an extra S1 to compensate for the reduced hash rate I am experiencing due to downtime and frequent under-performing.  Wink

Hey Innoman, not sure what you've gone through troubleshooting to date - you sure it's not internet connectivity related, or an issue with the pool you're mining on?  can you try another pool and move it to another location with a different internet connection, just to eliminate them as variables?

legendary
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I have not tried changing the default password yet.  would love to hear from someone who's taken that plunge and lived to tell about it.

Changing the password for the web admin will work.

Changing the password for SSH (aka root linux user) will be reset on reboot.

Changing the password in the web interface works for you?

I keep getting "invalid password" error when I attempt to change mine. How did you get yours to change properly?
newbie
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Is anyone seeing an issue where their S2 mines for about 10-15 or so minutes then stops and starts beeping?  This happens every time I power cycle and I have to stop/start cgminer or click "Save and Apply" under miner settings to get it going again.  (I only discovered the second method this afternoon).  After doing this once or a few times (varies), everything seems to work fine (for several hours, at least--still trying to get a good understanding of how often,etc...).

I've checked temps, re-seated boards, updated, checked all settings, power cycled, removed a board and let it run, switched the power cable (I'd initially put an older cable on it and it was getting a little warm in spots so I switched it out pretty quick) and checked all the other visible/accessible connections; all to no avail.  I've been working with Juan at 112bit who is also working with the Bitmain techs.  Just wondering if this is a widespread issue and if anyone has made any headway.


Yeah, I get that too, chasing ghosts right now. Try updating to the latest firmware (mentioned earlier in the thread) it's a firmware issue that'll be sorted out soon enough :-)

Innoman tried the latest firmware but in his case the problem persists, i tried to spread the S2 Batch #1 in many possible customers so more people can test the S2, but in this case really was not the best idea if giga or innoman has 2 or more units in hand all this process will be probably faster because not all our customers are experiencing the same results, in fact I have 1 unit for the Inside Bitcoins this Monday and works perfect.

Anyway Bitmain engineers are working with us to address the issues and avoid same situations in future units.

Juan


I actually misread what you said 1l1l11ll1l, about trying the new firmware; I was actually the one to post that I had tried it and it didn't fix my issue (and also that it did fix the IP subnet issue).  Unfortunately, my unit is still malfunctioning--it would be nice to have a second unit to see if the issue persists with both or if it is just this specific device (i.e. if it is something related to my setup--though I couldn't imagine what it could be).  It would also be nice if bitmain had loaned me an extra S1 to compensate for the reduced hash rate I am experiencing due to downtime and frequent under-performing.  Wink
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Is anyone seeing an issue where their S2 mines for about 10-15 or so minutes then stops and starts beeping?  This happens every time I power cycle and I have to stop/start cgminer or click "Save and Apply" under miner settings to get it going again.  (I only discovered the second method this afternoon).  After doing this once or a few times (varies), everything seems to work fine (for several hours, at least--still trying to get a good understanding of how often,etc...).

I've checked temps, re-seated boards, updated, checked all settings, power cycled, removed a board and let it run, switched the power cable (I'd initially put an older cable on it and it was getting a little warm in spots so I switched it out pretty quick) and checked all the other visible/accessible connections; all to no avail.  I've been working with Juan at 112bit who is also working with the Bitmain techs.  Just wondering if this is a widespread issue and if anyone has made any headway.


Yeah, I get that too, chasing ghosts right now. Try updating to the latest firmware (mentioned earlier in the thread) it's a firmware issue that'll be sorted out soon enough :-)

Innoman tried the latest firmware but in his case the problem persists, i tried to spread the S2 Batch #1 in many possible customers so more people can test the S2, but in this case really was not the best idea if giga or innoman has 2 or more units in hand all this process will be probably faster because not all our customers are experiencing the same results, in fact I have 1 unit for the Inside Bitcoins this Monday and works perfect.

Anyway Bitmain engineers are working with us to address the issues and avoid same situations in future units.

Juan
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
TaaS is a closed-end fund designated to blockchain
Here are the calcs.
1114W load @ 110V.
90.5% efficient @ 100% load @ 110V.
Internal load of 1008W.

And on 230V
92% efficient
Internal load of 1008W.
External power draw of 1095W.



PSU is specifically designed for 24/7 use @ 50C. Therefore there is a significant thermal safety factor on max load alone - even forgetting the usual one.
Tldr, its k.

We ran a test this morning on our S2 and was pulling 5.2 amps at 208v for a total of 1082 watts. Hopefully the chips are being driven too hard by the cgminer driver and can be calmed down a bit.

This could really though a wrench in my plans for world domination via S2 miners...  Roll Eyes

Giga you will dominate anyway with a little help of your friends...

Juan
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
TaaS is a closed-end fund designated to blockchain
Does the S2 have wifi?

Good question. Have not heard any mention of it, but hopefully it does.

BTW. Bitman finally responded to my email, they must have been really backlogged to ship the first batch of S2's

S2 has no Wifi.

May be in the future but is not in the priority list.

Juan
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I'm looking to load balance my S2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5452008 has basically what I want so I can do it through the GUI, but i don't see the first set of if statements about the pools that I'm supposed to modify in /etc/init.d/cgminer. I can set load-balance in params, and then go to config and manual enter them but I'd rather be able to do it through the GUI for more ease of access.

Damn slush for two blocks in last 24 hours. Sad
legendary
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vip
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AKA: gigavps
Here are the calcs.
1114W load @ 110V.
90.5% efficient @ 100% load @ 110V.
Internal load of 1008W.

And on 230V
92% efficient
Internal load of 1008W.
External power draw of 1095W.



PSU is specifically designed for 24/7 use @ 50C. Therefore there is a significant thermal safety factor on max load alone - even forgetting the usual one.
Tldr, its k.

We ran a test this morning on our S2 and was pulling 5.2 amps at 208v for a total of 1082 watts. Hopefully the chips are being driven too hard by the cgminer driver and can be calmed down a bit.

This could really though a wrench in my plans for world domination via S2 miners...  Roll Eyes
full member
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Is anyone from this thread going to the Inside Bitcoin Conference in NYC monday and tuesday? I would offer to give one of the programmers an inside look at the S2, mainly to solve this insanely high reject rate, but that is probably now irrelevant with the sd card image now posted.
hero member
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Shouldn't this non-topic discussion be moved to the Mining Speculation section since that section is identified as the area for "Speculation about mining hardware, difficulty, profitability, etc."

Sheesh, I bet if I take a look through your post history, every single one of your posts would be completely relevant and on topic to the thread.
newbie
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Its not speculation its the TRUTH and is warranted because he is telling people not to waste their money in a mining thread!

These guys don't deserve this B.S., why don't you stick up for the little guy not your scamming seller friends.

Some community, people these idiots don't give a shit about anything except that you buy BTC so they can cash you in!
sr. member
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Great, another doomsday newbie who's come here 'save' everyone from themselves and to tell everyone what's what with bitcoin...

I didn't say anything about Bitcoin itself - I said the mining numbers don't work.

I don't see anybody disputing me with some actual numbers.

What I see are people acting just like all the people I talk to on other forums - who think that because Mt. Gox was a disaster - that all of Bitcoin is a disaster.

It's the same mentality just coming from a different direction.

What I see are people who act just like the "investors" I've dealt with over the years who think that Apple stock , or Google stock, or Pets Online whatever stock - will go to $1000 a share,  or the people who think that gold will go to $10,000 an ounce.

Their numbers only work when  you apply a very high bullshit hope and change factor. And that shit doesn't work in the real world.

I said mining doesn't seem to be worth it - if YOU actually have to absorb ALL of the costs - unless the machine pays itself off in 30 or maybe 45 days - tops.  If it goes longer than that - the difficulty increase and NOW - the IRS coming in and wanting to take capital gains taxes - is going to make it a money loser.

Every single miner asic company I've seen - is pricing their machines so high that the buyers will pretty much never get ROI on them.

Prove me wrong - show me the numbers.  I'm fully willing to admit I'm wrong on this - but you're going to have to prove it.

Ok, a bit harsh with my newbie comment, apologies. It's not all doom though. If you watch the hardware and group buy forums then you learn to get a heads up as to what miners are about to be released. It's probably wise to steer clear from batch 1s. But if you jump in early with a batch 2 or 3 when the miner price is dropping, then you can get hardware that will ROI. There are plenty of good ROI calculators that take into account electricity and insanely increasing difficulty. I used http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ 3-4 weeks ago to see if I would make any profit on 6 x ant S1s and the numbers looked OK. Now I have nearly 4 coins and expect to earn a few more at least. So it's not impossible, you just have to watch what's going on a lot...

[edit] I'm hoping for a significant price drop on the S2 future batches - the current numbers plugged into the calculator I mentioned don't work - you are correct on that...

Shouldn't this non-topic discussion be moved to the Mining Speculation section since that section is identified as the area for "Speculation about mining hardware, difficulty, profitability, etc."
hero member
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Great, another doomsday newbie who's come here 'save' everyone from themselves and to tell everyone what's what with bitcoin...

I didn't say anything about Bitcoin itself - I said the mining numbers don't work.

I don't see anybody disputing me with some actual numbers.

What I see are people acting just like all the people I talk to on other forums - who think that because Mt. Gox was a disaster - that all of Bitcoin is a disaster.

It's the same mentality just coming from a different direction.

What I see are people who act just like the "investors" I've dealt with over the years who think that Apple stock , or Google stock, or Pets Online whatever stock - will go to $1000 a share,  or the people who think that gold will go to $10,000 an ounce.

Their numbers only work when  you apply a very high bullshit hope and change factor. And that shit doesn't work in the real world.

I said mining doesn't seem to be worth it - if YOU actually have to absorb ALL of the costs - unless the machine pays itself off in 30 or maybe 45 days - tops.  If it goes longer than that - the difficulty increase and NOW - the IRS coming in and wanting to take capital gains taxes - is going to make it a money loser.

Every single miner asic company I've seen - is pricing their machines so high that the buyers will pretty much never get ROI on them.

Prove me wrong - show me the numbers.  I'm fully willing to admit I'm wrong on this - but you're going to have to prove it.

Ok, a bit harsh with my newbie comment, apologies. It's not all doom though. If you watch the hardware and group buy forums then you learn to get a heads up as to what miners are about to be released. It's probably wise to steer clear from batch 1s. But if you jump in early with a batch 2 or 3 when the miner price is dropping, then you can get hardware that will ROI. There are plenty of good ROI calculators that take into account electricity and insanely increasing difficulty. I used http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ 3-4 weeks ago to see if I would make any profit on 6 x ant S1s and the numbers looked OK. Now I have nearly 4 coins and expect to earn a few more at least. So it's not impossible, you just have to watch what's going on a lot...

[edit] I'm hoping for a significant price drop on the S2 future batches - the current numbers plugged into the calculator I mentioned don't work - you are correct on that...
newbie
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Great, another doomsday newbie who's come here 'save' everyone from themselves and to tell everyone what's what with bitcoin...

I didn't say anything about Bitcoin itself - I said the mining numbers don't work.

I don't see anybody disputing me with some actual numbers.

What I see are people acting just like all the people I talk to on other forums - who think that because Mt. Gox was a disaster - that all of Bitcoin is a disaster.

It's the same mentality just coming from a different direction.

What I see are people who act just like the "investors" I've dealt with over the years who think that Apple stock , or Google stock, or Pets Online whatever stock - will go to $1000 a share,  or the people who think that gold will go to $10,000 an ounce.

Their numbers only work when  you apply a very high bullshit hope and change factor. And that shit doesn't work in the real world.

I said mining doesn't seem to be worth it - if YOU actually have to absorb ALL of the costs - unless the machine pays itself off in 30 or maybe 45 days - tops.  If it goes longer than that - the difficulty increase and NOW - the IRS coming in and wanting to take capital gains taxes - is going to make it a money loser.

Every single miner asic company I've seen - is pricing their machines so high that the buyers will pretty much never get ROI on them.

Prove me wrong - show me the numbers.  I'm fully willing to admit I'm wrong on this - but you're going to have to prove it.
vip
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
AKA: gigavps
I have not tried changing the default password yet.  would love to hear from someone who's taken that plunge and lived to tell about it.

Changing the password for the web admin will work.

Changing the password for SSH (aka root linux user) will be reset on reboot.
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
yes, i agree the subnet problem is fixed.  no problem here with 192.168.2.x via DHCP.

I have not tried changing the default password yet.  would love to hear from someone who's taken that plunge and lived to tell about it.

sr. member
Activity: 262
Merit: 250
the new firmware fixed the subnet issue for me   Smiley
The 192.168.1.1 router issue?

Yes. Before the update I had to edit cgminer.sh after every reboot, now I don't have to.

does this firmware let you change the default password?
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