ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 200.

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Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 26, 2014, 01:15:57 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 26, 2014, 02:39:27 AM

Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 25, 2014, 11:23:41 PM

Pre orders because they know the competition is out at 1 TH and they didnt want to lose market share

The A1 1TH miners are now $3200 for 4.5 shipping and to be honest the feedback has been good on the machines.

Bitmain could clean up if the 1TH has option for overclocking with addtional PSU to 1.4TH via normal ant specs. Outside that ......they are losing the edge....and I expect the avalons to drop everything hard very soon.....no happy about avalons like most but money talks in the end given the difficulty things are at

I mean come on you can get 200 gh avalons for $550 with PSU and case.

Selling used product as new.....they could at least say something about it so you know what you are buying.

I hope my batch 1 S2 comes in on time and there are some surprises.....as right now I am regretting my purchase.

Wow 200 ghs Avalons for 550$ with shipping, PSU and case??? Where please!!! Sounds like these Avalon guys who never sold stuff that ROIs finally are getting it right, or do they really?

Only Avalon product store I can find is this one:
http://avalon-asics.com/shop/

And sure enough, no 200 ghs units at $550. in sight at their own store. You sure surprised me there for one second lol!!!

They only sell chips buddy its the builders who make it happen....note the quality is all over the map so you have to tread lightly
But yes still 1000 watts for 200-240 gh/s but the V3 is do out already havent looked but that is probably why we are seeing blow out prices dropping daily right now........

Blowout prices...?...Where...?...Links, please... Wink

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Quote from: VonSpass on March 26, 2014, 02:39:27 AM

Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 25, 2014, 11:23:41 PM

Pre orders because they know the competition is out at 1 TH and they didnt want to lose market share

The A1 1TH miners are now $3200 for 4.5 shipping and to be honest the feedback has been good on the machines.

Bitmain could clean up if the 1TH has option for overclocking with addtional PSU to 1.4TH via normal ant specs. Outside that ......they are losing the edge....and I expect the avalons to drop everything hard very soon.....no happy about avalons like most but money talks in the end given the difficulty things are at

I mean come on you can get 200 gh avalons for $550 with PSU and case.

Selling used product as new.....they could at least say something about it so you know what you are buying.

I hope my batch 1 S2 comes in on time and there are some surprises.....as right now I am regretting my purchase.

Wow 200 ghs Avalons for 550$ with shipping, PSU and case??? Where please!!! Sounds like these Avalon guys who never sold stuff that ROIs finally are getting it right, or do they really?

Only Avalon product store I can find is this one:
http://avalon-asics.com/shop/

And sure enough, no 200 ghs units at $550. in sight at their own store. You sure surprised me there for one second lol!!!

They only sell chips buddy its the builders who make it happen....note the quality is all over the map so you have to tread lightly
But yes still 1000 watts for 200-240 gh/s but the V3 is do out already havent looked but that is probably why we are seeing blow out prices dropping daily right now........

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Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 25, 2014, 11:23:41 PM

Pre orders because they know the competition is out at 1 TH and they didnt want to lose market share

The A1 1TH miners are now $3200 for 4.5 shipping and to be honest the feedback has been good on the machines.

Bitmain could clean up if the 1TH has option for overclocking with addtional PSU to 1.4TH via normal ant specs. Outside that ......they are losing the edge....and I expect the avalons to drop everything hard very soon.....no happy about avalons like most but money talks in the end given the difficulty things are at

I mean come on you can get 200 gh avalons for $550 with PSU and case.

Selling used product as new.....they could at least say something about it so you know what you are buying.

I hope my batch 1 S2 comes in on time and there are some surprises.....as right now I am regretting my purchase.

Wow 200 ghs Avalons for 550$ with shipping, PSU and case??? Where please!!! Sounds like these Avalon guys who never sold stuff that ROIs finally are getting it right, or do they really?

Only Avalon product store I can find is this one:
http://avalon-asics.com/shop/

And sure enough, no 200 ghs units at $550. in sight at their own store. You sure surprised me there for one second lol!!!

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Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 25, 2014, 11:23:41 PM

Pre orders because they know the competition is out at 1 TH and they didnt want to lose market share

The A1 1TH miners are now $3200 for 4.5 shipping and to be honest the feedback has been good on the machines.

Bitmain could clean up if the 1TH has option for overclocking with addtional PSU to 1.4TH via normal ant specs. Outside that ......they are losing the edge....and I expect the avalons to drop everything hard very soon.....no happy about avalons like most but money talks in the end given the difficulty things are at

I mean come on you can get 200 gh avalons for $550 with PSU and case.

Selling used product as new.....they could at least say something about it so you know what you are buying.

I hope my batch 1 S2 comes in on time and there are some surprises.....as right now I am regretting my purchase.

Avalon 200 GH almost 1000 watt, or there is another avalon 200GH ?

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Pre orders because they know the competition is out at 1 TH and they didnt want to lose market share

The A1 1TH miners are now $3200 for 4.5 shipping and to be honest the feedback has been good on the machines.

Bitmain could clean up if the 1TH has option for overclocking with addtional PSU to 1.4TH via normal ant specs. Outside that ......they are losing the edge....and I expect the avalons to drop everything hard very soon.....no happy about avalons like most but money talks in the end given the difficulty things are at

I mean come on you can get 200 gh avalons for $550 with PSU and case.

Selling used product as new.....they could at least say something about it so you know what you are buying.

I hope my batch 1 S2 comes in on time and there are some surprises.....as right now I am regretting my purchase.

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Quote from: robbcarpdm on March 25, 2014, 06:22:39 PM

Yeah was happy to get a 1TH but

7 ant S1 at 200 = 1.4TH for $3650 and then later slow it down to 960 ..... what was I thinking

Well on a positive note electronic banking transactions....notice they dont take 3 days anymore.....the wall street banksters used to sit on our money for 3 days we all know they can authenticate is immmediately

Thank you Bitcoin competition is a good thing.....hold the wall street fraudsters in check.

Evil greedy bastards deserve whats coming long term ....IMO

Yep...but Wall street is calling it "Forex"...currency Exchange...for 2-3 to "5 business days on HOLD"...capisco...?... Wink

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Yeah was happy to get a 1TH but

7 ant S1 at 200 = 1.4TH for $3650 and then later slow it down to 960 ..... what was I thinking

Well on a positive note electronic banking transactions....notice they dont take 3 days anymore.....the wall street banksters used to sit on our money for 3 days we all know they can authenticate is immmediately

Thank you Bitcoin competition is a good thing.....hold the wall street fraudsters in check.

Evil greedy bastards deserve whats coming long term ....IMO

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Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 05:20:32 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 04:38:51 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on March 25, 2014, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 01:10:55 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

Suggest you make your move, but be careful there isn't much out there that is real and affordable. Forget Hashfast, Cointerra, BlackArrow, Advanced, Bitmine.ch, all of them are either delayed, incompetent, scams or just full already.

There's a lot of people warning about the Dragon 1TH - I'd only go there with paypal or escrow...

Thank you for clarifying "calculated gamble" for me Cheesy

Totally agree about these companies and their questionable "pre-order" policies: I would add Butterfly Labs and their Monarch fiasco to the list of brands not to buy from...

Definitely.

I actually had a lucky escape both with Bitmine and BlackArrow. I placed orders in December for both 1TH machines but didn't pay, something just didn't feel right. Eventually the orders were cancelled.

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Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 04:38:51 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on March 25, 2014, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 01:10:55 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

Suggest you make your move, but be careful there isn't much out there that is real and affordable. Forget Hashfast, Cointerra, BlackArrow, Advanced, Bitmine.ch, all of them are either delayed, incompetent, scams or just full already.

There's a lot of people warning about the Dragon 1TH - I'd only go there with paypal or escrow...

Thank you for clarifying "calculated gamble" for me Cheesy

Totally agree about these companies and their questionable "pre-order" policies: I would add Butterfly Labs and their Monarch fiasco to the list of brands not to buy from...

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Quote from: dropt on March 25, 2014, 02:37:15 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 02:19:42 PM

Ok now this problem happened to me; I have ordered an S1 unit through Bitmain's online system, and the Order expired before my payment could confirm (slow bitcoin network!!!) So now I have paid for the unit but my order is "Expired". So now what - I just wait and someone will realize this mistake at Bitmain and fix it or do I need to contact them?

This slow bitcoin network is a real problem for these online transactions.

This has happened, been posted about, and responded to countless times.

Like every other time this has occurred: Send Bitmain a PM with the TXID and OrderID just to make them aware of the situation and then sit back, relax, and wait until your unit arrives.

Ok thanks for your help, I just sent them a PM; somehow I did not see this corrective procedure in these lenghty threads...

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Quote from: nottm28 on March 25, 2014, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 01:10:55 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

Suggest you make your move, but be careful there isn't much out there that is real and affordable. Forget Hashfast, Cointerra, BlackArrow, Advanced, Bitmine.ch, all of them are either delayed, incompetent, scams or just full already.

The Chinese Dragon miners 1TH are probably your best bet, they are selling from stock, but its a bit of a leap of faith, a gamble if you like, but thats the only way really. Take a calculated gamble with one of them and see what happens, then if it works out ok keep going.

There's a lot of people warning about the Dragon 1TH - I'd only go there with paypal or escrow...

Thank you for clarifying "calculated gamble" for me Cheesy

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Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 01:10:55 PM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

Suggest you make your move, but be careful there isn't much out there that is real and affordable. Forget Hashfast, Cointerra, BlackArrow, Advanced, Bitmine.ch, all of them are either delayed, incompetent, scams or just full already.

The Chinese Dragon miners 1TH are probably your best bet, they are selling from stock, but its a bit of a leap of faith, a gamble if you like, but thats the only way really. Take a calculated gamble with one of them and see what happens, then if it works out ok keep going.

There's a lot of people warning about the Dragon 1TH - I'd only go there with paypal or escrow...

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Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 02:19:42 PM

Ok now this problem happened to me; I have ordered an S1 unit through Bitmain's online system, and the Order expired before my payment could confirm (slow bitcoin network!!!) So now I have paid for the unit but my order is "Expired". So now what - I just wait and someone will realize this mistake at Bitmain and fix it or do I need to contact them?

This slow bitcoin network is a real problem for these online transactions.

This has happened, been posted about, and responded to countless times.

Like every other time this has occurred: Send Bitmain a PM with the TXID and OrderID just to make them aware of the situation and then sit back, relax, and wait until your unit arrives.

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Ok now this problem happened to me; I have ordered an S1 unit through Bitmain's online system, and the Order expired before my payment could confirm (slow bitcoin network!!!) So now I have paid for the unit but my order is "Expired". So now what - I just wait and someone will realize this mistake at Bitmain and fix it or do I need to contact them?

This slow bitcoin network is a real problem for these online transactions.

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Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

Suggest you make your move, but be careful there isn't much out there that is real and affordable. Forget Hashfast, Cointerra, BlackArrow, Advanced, Bitmine.ch, all of them are either delayed, incompetent, scams or just full already.

The Chinese Dragon miners 1TH are probably your best bet, they are selling from stock, but its a bit of a leap of faith, a gamble if you like, but thats the only way really. Take a calculated gamble with one of them and see what happens, then if it works out ok keep going.

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Quote from: Biffa on March 25, 2014, 03:42:36 AM

Quote from: VonSpass on March 25, 2014, 03:21:04 AM

Hey Bitmain; can we have an idea as for when more Antminer S2 units will be available? It seems all S2 batches are sold out at the moment...

They aren't comfortable doing pre-orders too far into the unknown future. Let them get the ones out they have sold now, get some on the shelf and build up some stock to avoid regressing into pre-order nightmare.

OK I understand but if they are not going to make more S2 units available anytime soon or at least let me know when they will be, I will turn to other competing solutions; I am ready to make a move, like, now.

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Quote from: smooth on March 25, 2014, 11:40:56 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on March 25, 2014, 11:22:26 AM

you can do any of these right now:
Buy 3 antminers and undervolt = 400GH / 500W / 2.7BTC

Has someone developed a method for undervolting the S1? Doesn't this require a hardware mod?

just a pencil mod on R3 (or was it R12?). 8 pencil mods per S1 unit.

but the reality is that underclocking/volting an s1 doesnt make monetary sense right now. In about 2 months it will make more sense if power is a limitation and as power costs begin to catch up to the profit of mining

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Quote from: klondike_bar on March 25, 2014, 11:22:26 AM

Quote from: crazyates on March 25, 2014, 08:53:13 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on March 25, 2014, 08:41:07 AM

Quote from: hanti on March 25, 2014, 07:46:21 AM

i would like to have some s2 mini or something 400-500gh/s and 400-500W Wink

^go out and buy a few antminers to undervolt. 1TH+ is necessary if you are serious about equipment that will run for 6months+

I'm excited about this, but not everyone has the ability to be able to do this.

of course, i understand that. however, it would not really be in bitmain's interests to start up another R&D plus production line for an S1.5 model.

you can do any of these right now:
Buy 3 antminers and undervolt = 400GH / 500W / 2.7BTC
Buy 2 antminers and no overclock = 400GH / 800W / 1.8BTC
Buy an antminer S2 unit = 1000GH / 1kW / 6.3BTC (sold out, and will take about 10 days longer to receive a batch 2 even if you did order)
Buy 7 antminers and undervolt = 960GH / 1.1kW / 6.5BTC

personally, the S2 makes sense if you want:
a) included PSU ($200 expense for nice ATX vs $50 if you were modding server gear)
b) fewer cords (1 ethernet and 1 power, verses 7 ethernets for a comparable hashrate of underclocked S1 units)
c) simpler control (1 IP address rather than 7)
d) better density (S1 units can be a bit tricky to stack and have wires going in all directions to the PSU)

I ordered a batch 2 unit, but in retrospect almost wish i went with multiple S1 units instead. REALLY hoping that the S2 can overclock past 1.15TH if given good airflow and an extra 300W

on that note: I would be willing to sell my Batch 2 pre-order at the right price - PM me if you want to offer AT LEAST 6.85BTC for it

klondike, I am starting to regret my purchases of the s2 as well....especially since 2 days later spoondoolies tech went on sale and now I was tapped out. Dam. So I go with an Army of Ants for now. Now I am waiting on "Neptunes" for my Queen Ants to sit on, as my soldier ants sit on my jupiter.

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I would ask that Bitmain remembered CE certificate because there may be problems in the EU, the customs office.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on March 25, 2014, 11:22:26 AM

you can do any of these right now:
Buy 3 antminers and undervolt = 400GH / 500W / 2.7BTC

Has someone developed a method for undervolting the S1? Doesn't this require a hardware mod?

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