ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 212.

Tikii

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Quote from: nikolaz on March 16, 2014, 09:07:46 AM

Quote from: ZiG on March 16, 2014, 02:00:28 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on March 15, 2014, 10:38:10 PM

Also does anyone know
If I want a refund
Did bitmain did refund or not?

According to the web site:..."All Sales are FINAL...due to the nature of this Market..."...blah, blah...

Sorry, buddy...NO refunds...I guess...

Edit: Doesn't mean that you can not try...Just ask them...

Just had a look at their website, there was no mention of refund policy... I am in a very weird situation, I need to relocate to Canada for work, which is good as I will save $0.12 kW/h compare to the UK ($0.18 kW/h) however downside is I need to ship all my miners to Canada from UK and I am sure customs will have an issue moving 10xS1, and 2xS2 :-(

Depending where you are moving in Canada you might even get what they call Smart billing where you get charged less per kW in off peak times
IE: 10PM to 5AM = 0.07kW/h

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Quote from: Pug on March 16, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

Hope their will be a Cina Export sticker Tongue

aka. CE Sign on the rack. The German customs sometimes are really mad.

I think that you mean a "Conformité Européene" CE approval mark rather than a "China Export" sticker.

But I know what you mean, if it is a completed end user device then it is likely to need CE approval before Customs let it in although the PSU's should already have them.

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Quote from: faxfan2002 on March 16, 2014, 09:20:41 AM

Why would they have an issue? Your not selling or trading them just moving your own personal property.

I believe you will need to declare your items, It will be a hard sell to an custom officer that I have 12 "computers" for personal use.

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Why would they have an issue? Your not selling or trading them just moving your own personal property.

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Quote from: ZiG on March 16, 2014, 02:00:28 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on March 15, 2014, 10:38:10 PM

Also does anyone know
If I want a refund
Did bitmain did refund or not?

According to the web site:..."All Sales are FINAL...due to the nature of this Market..."...blah, blah...

Sorry, buddy...NO refunds...I guess...

Edit: Doesn't mean that you can not try...Just ask them...

Just had a look at their website, there was no mention of refund policy... I am in a very weird situation, I need to relocate to Canada for work, which is good as I will save $0.12 kW/h compare to the UK ($0.18 kW/h) however downside is I need to ship all my miners to Canada from UK and I am sure customs will have an issue moving 10xS1, and 2xS2 :-(

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Quote from: jelin1984 on March 16, 2014, 08:34:56 AM

If I want a refund what I must do?

Read the previous posts that replied to your post, such as...

Quote from: ZiG on March 16, 2014, 02:00:28 AM

According to the web site:..."All Sales are FINAL...due to the nature of this Market..."...blah, blah...

Sorry, buddy...NO refunds...I guess...

Edit: Doesn't mean that you can not try...Just ask them...

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jelin1984

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If I want a refund what I must do?

gentacomp

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Enermax is one of the best PSU...

A 1000 watt can do more than it is, while the real spec is the recomend as it is. For Q can it for S2 ? My answer is YES it can. But I dont know in the long run 24/7/30/365. My 700 watt cant supply 600 watt rig after 2 years and it runs in average 15 hours a day, can you imagine for 24 hours a day ?

Further more a PSU durability dont just loss at significan range, it will drop just a little watt. I dont know its true, but will S2 do more error if the PSU only supply under 1000 watt ? Ex : its going down to 975 watt, than what happen ? Good if S2 just shutdown, but what if S2 got more error or broken chip ? Ussually it does little by little, so you wont notice it. That state just like a 1000 watt S2 overclocked and need 1100 watt but PSU still 1000 watt. For what I read (not my experience) it will do more error...

I hope this "5x S1 overclocked to 200 with low power" a.k.a S2, will give more hash rate than 1 TH. Yes I want price down LOL
Thank you...

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Quote from: freebit13 on March 16, 2014, 06:50:00 AM

Quote from: visdude on March 16, 2014, 05:24:52 AM

Quote from: freebit13 on March 16, 2014, 04:41:13 AM

A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.

It's not a rule of thumb. It's called Physics. Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason. If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.

You did not say it was a rule of thumnb, did I say you said it was a rule of thumb?, someone else said so, I'm not sure why you feel I was adressing you. I was merely highlighting the fact that a lot of people here go on what others have posted and pass on information without having ever tested it themselves. I'm running one OC ant on a 520W bronze psu that everyone 'says' should hav blown up long ago.

BTW: a 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is not running at 100%, please don't misrepresent the facts. A 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is operating at 92% if you're lucky, probably less... for someone so into physics and numbers, that's quite a difference.

It's also hardly fair to comapre a modern Chinese ASIC manufacturer to a 100 year old American car manufacturer... even if it does appear to support your argument.

I doesn't matter who said what or who quoted who. I responded to your post which is about the current topic of discussion (S2 power supply). This is an open forum after all. I never mentioned anything "blowing up". You did. Like I said, knock yourself out if your PSU loading works for you. I couldn't care less.

I haven't misrepresented the facts. In fact, I have been stating facts. You obviously do not bother to read prior posts. Read here.

It is foolish to assume that Bitmain is so perfect that they will never screw up or never cut corners just because they are "completely blasting the competition out of the water". That's bordering on fanaticism.

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Quote from: visdude on March 16, 2014, 05:24:52 AM

Quote from: freebit13 on March 16, 2014, 04:41:13 AM

A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.

It's not a rule of thumb. It's called Physics. Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason. If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.

You did not say it was a rule of thumnb, did I say you said it was a rule of thumb?, someone else said so, I'm not sure why you feel I was adressing you. I was merely highlighting the fact that a lot of people here go on what others have posted and pass on information without having ever tested it themselves. I'm running one OC ant on a 520W bronze psu that everyone 'says' should hav blown up long ago.

BTW: a 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is not running at 100%, please don't misrepresent the facts. A 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is operating at 92% if you're lucky, probably less... for someone so into physics and numbers, that's quite a difference.

It's also hardly fair to comapre a modern Chinese ASIC manufacturer to a 100 year old American car manufacturer... even if it does appear to support your argument.

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Manufacturers tend to underrate power consumption for marketing purposes. Bitmain's spec for the S1 is 360W at the wall but in actuality, it draws around 385W. If the S1 is any indication, I would not be surprised if the S2 would draw more than 1000W at the wall as specified, hence all the more reason why a 1000W PSU is not ideal for a sustained 24/7 operation.

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Quote from: visdude on March 16, 2014, 05:44:49 AM

Quote from: bitcoin_miner on March 16, 2014, 05:31:20 AM

for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..

Did you bother checking the total maximum DC output on the 12V rail that's printed on the label?

Perhaps this would help also:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ENERMAX%20TECHNOLOGY%20CORP_ERV1000EWT-G_ECOS%202840_1000W_Report.pdf

I not yet read in body PSU..
now waiting bitmaintach confirmation about it

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Quote from: bitcoin_miner on March 16, 2014, 05:31:20 AM

for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..

Did you bother checking the total maximum DC output on the 12V rail that's printed on the label?

Perhaps this would help also:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ENERMAX%20TECHNOLOGY%20CORP_ERV1000EWT-G_ECOS%202840_1000W_Report.pdf

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for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..

visdude

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Quote from: freebit13 on March 16, 2014, 04:41:13 AM

A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.

It's not a rule of thumb. It's called Physics. Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason. If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.

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Using some expensive heaters

Quote from: topminingcontracts on March 14, 2014, 10:38:17 PM

Quote from: ZiG on March 14, 2014, 10:26:37 PM

Now Juan is showing again in stock...this time is 5 S2's...?1

Some orders has Bitcoin Payment and we do not receive the payment so I cancel the unpaid orders in Bitcoins 1 hour after

Hi Juan,

Just to be clear, are the S2s that you're showing on your site definitely headed to you from the 1st batch?

Also, how soon after the 1st can we expect to have possession, given the $ for this pre-order?

The reason I ask is, the S1s are available now, and the 2nd batch is due to be available on April 10th?

Thanks

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Doesn't shipping with a PSU make it more difficult when exporting? Doesn't the supplier have to get the entire thing through some sort of US or EU approval?

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may be S2 more complex connection to PSU. So if buy it without PSU, big risk in your hand. May be your S2 will damage caused not suitable in PSU. Bitcoin Mining is time is money. You want price cut about $200 for PSU, but if S2 delivered in your home without PSU. May be you need one, two or three days to find suitable PSU for S2. You'll loss money..

So, I suggest if buy S2 with PSU completely. I trust bitmaintech tested about PSU in S2. PSU in China more cheap.

For bitmaintech,
I hope for customer S1, give more coupon/discount for buy S2.
I hope price more cheap for S2..

freebit13

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A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.

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