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If I want a refund what I must do?
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Enermax is one of the best PSU...

A 1000 watt can do more than it is, while the real spec is the recomend as it is. For Q can it for S2 ? My answer is YES it can. But I dont know in the long run 24/7/30/365. My 700 watt cant supply 600 watt rig after 2 years and it runs in average 15 hours a day, can you imagine for 24 hours a day ?

Further more a PSU durability dont just loss at significan range, it will drop just a little watt. I dont know its true, but will S2 do more error if the PSU only supply under 1000 watt ? Ex : its going down to 975 watt, than what happen ? Good if S2 just shutdown, but what if S2 got more error or broken chip ? Ussually it does little by little, so you wont notice it. That state just like a 1000 watt S2 overclocked and need 1100 watt but PSU still 1000 watt. For what I read (not my experience) it will do more error...

I hope this "5x S1 overclocked to 200 with low power" a.k.a S2, will give more hash rate than 1 TH. Yes I want price down LOL
Thank you...
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A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.
It's not a rule of thumb.  It's called Physics.  Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason.  If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.
You did not say it was a rule of thumnb, did I say you said it was a rule of thumb?, someone else said so, I'm not sure why you feel I was adressing you. I was merely highlighting the fact that a lot of people here go on what others have posted and pass on information without having ever tested it themselves. I'm running one OC ant on a 520W bronze psu that everyone 'says' should hav blown up long ago.

BTW: a 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is not running at 100%, please don't misrepresent the facts. A 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is operating at 92% if you're lucky, probably less... for someone so into physics and numbers, that's quite a difference.

It's also hardly fair to comapre a modern Chinese ASIC manufacturer to a 100 year old American car manufacturer... even if it does appear to support your argument.

I doesn't matter who said what or who quoted who.  I responded to your post which is about the current topic of discussion (S2 power supply).  This is an open forum after all.  I never mentioned anything "blowing up".  You did.  Like I said, knock yourself out if your PSU loading works for you.  I couldn't care less.

I haven't misrepresented the facts.  In fact, I have been stating facts.  You obviously do not bother to read prior posts.  Read here.

It is foolish to assume that Bitmain is so perfect that they will never screw up or never cut corners just because they are "completely blasting the competition out of the water".  That's bordering on fanaticism.

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A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.
It's not a rule of thumb.  It's called Physics.  Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason.  If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.
You did not say it was a rule of thumnb, did I say you said it was a rule of thumb?, someone else said so, I'm not sure why you feel I was adressing you. I was merely highlighting the fact that a lot of people here go on what others have posted and pass on information without having ever tested it themselves. I'm running one OC ant on a 520W bronze psu that everyone 'says' should hav blown up long ago.

BTW: a 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is not running at 100%, please don't misrepresent the facts. A 1000W PSU pulling 1000W at the wall is operating at 92% if you're lucky, probably less... for someone so into physics and numbers, that's quite a difference.

It's also hardly fair to comapre a modern Chinese ASIC manufacturer to a 100 year old American car manufacturer... even if it does appear to support your argument.
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Manufacturers tend to underrate power consumption for marketing purposes.  Bitmain's spec for the S1 is 360W at the wall but in actuality, it draws around 385W.  If the S1 is any indication, I would not be surprised if the S2 would draw more than 1000W at the wall as specified, hence all the more reason why a 1000W PSU is not ideal for a sustained 24/7 operation.
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for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..


Did you bother checking the total maximum DC output on the 12V rail that's printed on the label?



Perhaps this would help also:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ENERMAX%20TECHNOLOGY%20CORP_ERV1000EWT-G_ECOS%202840_1000W_Report.pdf



I not yet read in body PSU..
now waiting bitmaintach confirmation about it
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for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..


Did you bother checking the total maximum DC output on the 12V rail that's printed on the label?



Perhaps this would help also:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ENERMAX%20TECHNOLOGY%20CORP_ERV1000EWT-G_ECOS%202840_1000W_Report.pdf

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for person not sure about PSU can't supply S2.. Please read my analyze

PSU S2 using : 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
This link about this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194101

wrote in datasheet : +12V1@30A, +12V2@30A, +12V3@30A, +12V4@30A

So this PSU can supply 4 x 30 A = 120 Ampere
This PSU can supply = 12 x 120 = 1440 Watt

S2 need 1000 Watt.. So this PSU can supply S2..



legendary
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A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.


It's not a rule of thumb.  It's called Physics.  Specs are not mere random numbers and are provided for a reason.  If you wanna load your PSU close to 100% load, then knock yourself out.

Ford blasted the competition too at one point or another but then they also made the Pinto.
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Using some expensive heaters
Now Juan is showing again in stock...this time is 5 S2's...?1


Some orders has Bitcoin Payment and we do not receive the payment so I cancel the unpaid orders in Bitcoins 1 hour after


Hi Juan,

Just to be clear, are the S2s that you're showing on your site definitely headed to you from the 1st batch?

Also, how soon after the 1st can we expect to have possession, given the $ for this pre-order?

The reason I ask is, the S1s are available now, and the 2nd batch is due to be available on April 10th?

Thanks
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Doesn't shipping with a PSU make it more difficult when exporting? Doesn't the supplier have to get the entire thing through some sort of US or EU approval?
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may be S2 more complex connection to PSU. So if buy it without PSU, big risk in your hand. May be your S2 will damage caused not suitable in PSU. Bitcoin Mining is time is money. You want price cut about $200 for PSU, but if S2 delivered in your home without PSU. May be you need one, two or three days to find suitable PSU for S2. You'll loss money..

So, I suggest if buy S2 with PSU completely. I trust bitmaintech tested about PSU in S2. PSU in China more cheap.


For bitmaintech,
I hope for customer S1, give more coupon/discount for buy S2.
I hope price more cheap for S2..
 
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A rule of thumb is exactly what is sounds like... after what Bitmain has done with the S1, completely blasting the competition out of the water, do you all think they are going to screw up such a simple little thing like supplying a psu that will blow up in your house? Even a newbie like me can figure out what size psu one 'should' use, but they are actually testing them which kinda holds more ground that a rule of thumb... imo of course.
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also for customs

bitmain

what you will have to write as value?

Will you shut up about customs ffs. You think they can't read a public forum. Anything like that you should take to the supplier directly and privately.
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Now I'm really torn between Gridseed and Bitmain Sad
At this price I'm really unsure.

Gridseed is Avalon.  They deserve zero support from the miner community.

I've looked at the chips & saw no indication of this,gotta link or something  Huh  How many others had no idea...............  Roll Eyes
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Also does anyone know
If I want a refund
Did bitmain did refund or not?

According to the web site:..."All Sales are FINAL...due to the nature of this Market..."...blah, blah...

Sorry, buddy...NO refunds...I guess...

Edit: Doesn't mean that you can not try...Just ask them...
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Also does anyone know
If I want a refund
Did bitmain did refund or not?

Nope
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Still waiting another price cut Smiley
Maybe after other preorder products with THs speed release, next 1-2 month (if they ontime LOL)
But again "Bitcoin is not about the hash speed, its about who start first".
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Also does anyone know
If I want a refund
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