ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 179.

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Quote from: Tupsu on September 17, 2014, 03:03:44 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2014, 06:51:29 PM

Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.
...........

Did you set them to DHCP or manual IP? Try one at a time, also try to connect to the default IP. Failing that try to reflash the micro SD card, you may have killed that.

This is the Antminer S3, and not Antminer S2. There is no micro SD card.

ANTMINER S3+ -B9

Sold Out

yeah, saw it 1-2hour ago or so

B9 maybe the leftover from B8
so its not that much left

now, lets waiting for this weeks deadline... S4!!!!!
hope its stuck at BTC3 Grin

so, we who bought S3+ wont be crying like baby haha

EDIT: OMFG, B10 Huh

seriously??? this S4 will be at least BTC3 LOL

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2014, 06:51:29 PM

Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.
...........

Did you set them to DHCP or manual IP? Try one at a time, also try to connect to the default IP. Failing that try to reflash the micro SD card, you may have killed that.

This is the Antminer S3, and not Antminer S2. There is no micro SD card.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 17, 2014, 02:19:27 AM

Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:58:53 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 17, 2014, 12:44:20 AM

Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:21:14 AM

Need inputs & advice please,

How much watts when it comes to power supply that can power 1 Antminer S3 and how much Amp in 12v rail does it need?

I have 5 antminer S3 and planning to buys separate power supply for each.

Thanks & Regards,

It needs about 30 amps on 12V but I don't think it's a good idea to have a separate power supply for each. You will end up with 5 power supplies (450-500W each) and a mess of cables, while you could get one 800-850W and one 1200-1300W PSU and put 2 and 3 miners on them respectively.

So 1200 watts is good for 3 antminers S3.

Actually my problem is here in Saudi they don't have much supplier when it comes to PC and all they hay is 400w to 500w PSU, but they have a 1300 watts platinum but price is overkill.

Anyway I have not made any decisions yet, any advice on brand if ever I go separate power supply?

Thanks,

Ok, in that case get some good 500W ones, 80+ silver/gold if you can. Corsair is fairly good, not sure what else is there in that range.

Edit: technically 450W is sufficient if not overclocked.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try 450W since I'm not into OC'ing.

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Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:58:53 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 17, 2014, 12:44:20 AM

Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:21:14 AM

Need inputs & advice please,

How much watts when it comes to power supply that can power 1 Antminer S3 and how much Amp in 12v rail does it need?

I have 5 antminer S3 and planning to buys separate power supply for each.

Thanks & Regards,

It needs about 30 amps on 12V but I don't think it's a good idea to have a separate power supply for each. You will end up with 5 power supplies (450-500W each) and a mess of cables, while you could get one 800-850W and one 1200-1300W PSU and put 2 and 3 miners on them respectively.

So 1200 watts is good for 3 antminers S3.

Actually my problem is here in Saudi they don't have much supplier when it comes to PC and all they hay is 400w to 500w PSU, but they have a 1300 watts platinum but price is overkill.

Anyway I have not made any decisions yet, any advice on brand if ever I go separate power supply?

Thanks,

Ok, in that case get some good 500W ones, 80+ silver/gold if you can. Corsair is fairly good, not sure what else is there in that range.

Edit: technically 450W is sufficient if not overclocked.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 17, 2014, 12:44:20 AM

Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:21:14 AM

Need inputs & advice please,

How much watts when it comes to power supply that can power 1 Antminer S3 and how much Amp in 12v rail does it need?

I have 5 antminer S3 and planning to buys separate power supply for each.

Thanks & Regards,

It needs about 30 amps on 12V but I don't think it's a good idea to have a separate power supply for each. You will end up with 5 power supplies (450-500W each) and a mess of cables, while you could get one 800-850W and one 1200-1300W PSU and put 2 and 3 miners on them respectively.

So 1200 watts is good for 3 antminers S3.

Actually my problem is here in Saudi they don't have much supplier when it comes to PC and all they hay is 400w to 500w PSU, but they have a 1300 watts platinum but price is overkill.

Anyway I have not made any decisions yet, any advice on brand if ever I go separate power supply?

Thanks,

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Quote from: kae1078 on September 17, 2014, 12:21:14 AM

Need inputs & advice please,

How much watts when it comes to power supply that can power 1 Antminer S3 and how much Amp in 12v rail does it need?

I have 5 antminer S3 and planning to buys separate power supply for each.

Thanks & Regards,

It needs about 30 amps on 12V but I don't think it's a good idea to have a separate power supply for each. You will end up with 5 power supplies (450-500W each) and a mess of cables, while you could get one 800-850W and one 1200-1300W PSU and put 2 and 3 miners on them respectively.

kae1078

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Need inputs & advice please,

How much watts when it comes to power supply that can power 1 Antminer S3 and how much Amp in 12v rail does it need?

I have 5 antminer S3 and planning to buys separate power supply for each.

Thanks & Regards,

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Quote from: aarons6 on September 16, 2014, 06:40:08 PM

Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

happened to me. check the dns.

Did they reset to factory setting ip address? If you are running two or if you have a different ip address base you would have trouble getting to them.

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Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 07:46:35 PM

Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

Interesting. Leaving them off for 5 minutes did not fix it. Leaving them off for 20 minutes did.
After a longer capacitor discharge period, they came up and started hashing on their configured IP addresses.
Those are some capacitors.

Thanks for your suggestions - they got me to try again rather than drink myself into oblivion over the $7ish/day in lost BTC revenue.

A charged capacitor will have a voltage memory. Hold a capacitor at voltage for a while, take away the source, measure the voltage across the cap, then completely short it, say put a wrench across the terminals for a minute, remove the short, wait 30 seconds, measure the cap and some voltage will have returned.

Years ago working for a company that built DC motors there was a machine with a huge bank of capacitors that would get charged then the charge shorted thru coils around magnet blanks inducing a permanent field. I was assisting the troubleshooting. The guy doing the troubleshooting had a shorting cable the end of which was attached to a stick. To make sure the caps were discharged he'd short with the shorting stick. We went to lunch. After lunch he reached in and got badly knocked on his ass. Actually he was more than just knocked on his ass. I think he was knocked unconscious, thrown some distance and suffered a significant burn. I didn't witness the accident. Ambulance came and took him to the hospital. He felt someone hit the charge button while we were gone. I couldn't disagree with him. Years later I realized it may have been that voltage memory.

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Quote from: Stratobitz on September 16, 2014, 05:24:48 PM

We will just have to agree to disagree there. If a breaker is rated at 20 amps load at 110v it will certainly hold 1920. I also speak from experience here. Long term loads of 1800-1900 months on end. No issues. But yes the breaker will get warm.

Strato

Good luck with that. I hope your breakers work correctly. Some of them don't. I replaced my entire panel because the manufacturer, Federal Electric, produced breakers that didn't shut down reliably in the case of overloads and caused a number of house fires.

Another factor to consider if your power is subject to brown outs... Your miner power supply will attempt to maintain a constant voltage to the miner and hence constant power output even if the line voltage drops. This means the current draw will increase. So if you have reliable operation during periods when your supply voltage is high you may have difficulties if your voltage drops. Should this happen, you can hope that your problems are tripping breakers and not breakers that you wish had tripped but didn't.

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Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

Interesting. Leaving them off for 5 minutes did not fix it. Leaving them off for 20 minutes did.
After a longer capacitor discharge period, they came up and started hashing on their configured IP addresses.
Those are some capacitors.

Thanks for your suggestions - they got me to try again rather than drink myself into oblivion over the $7ish/day in lost BTC revenue.

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Quote from: bspurloc on September 16, 2014, 05:40:09 PM

I was just looking thru my server room and extras and I think I actually have 2 rack mounted enclosures that were made for putting XT mother boards in them that may just work haha...

Actually that might work, gut it and you might have something there...

Quote

I presently have 3 S1's stacked and tied on top of each other and some others sitting on the floor at the bottom of some racks. They are all sitting at 41-42C so I guess I shouldnt even need to care about keeping things cool if I have s1's running that cool and overclocked. I have S3's sitting out in the office area and they are at 42-43 and super quiet where and S1 out here would be at 46-47 fans blazing. So it just seemed to me those enclosures were really helping keep the s3's cooler.

I will certainly agree with you there, the S3's are for sure quieter and it seems a little cooler. Honestly it seems the open S1 frame is cool, but heat just flows everywhere out of it. With the covering on the S3 it tunnels it better through the boards and out the back, at least better directing the airflow.

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Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

Did you set them to DHCP or manual IP? Try one at a time, also try to connect to the default IP. Failing that try to reflash the micro SD card, you may have killed that.

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Quote from: SMB-2525 on September 16, 2014, 06:38:37 PM

I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

happened to me. check the dns.

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I cycled a circuit breaker last night. That caused both of my S3s to not hash when they came back up. The fan in the S3 is running, but it does not come up.

The power on sequence goes like this:
Red light flashes for about 20 seconds
Green light comes on for a second - at the same time the network link lights come on
The red and the green lights go out at the same time. The network link lights stay on. The fan stays on.
They do not respond to ping or login attempt.

Each is on a 750 Watt Corsair PS and the whole lot is on a surge protector.

Did I kill them?

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Quote from: soy on September 16, 2014, 05:36:51 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on September 16, 2014, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: IITravel01 on September 16, 2014, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: R4v37 on September 16, 2014, 01:13:51 PM

Quote from: Master One on September 16, 2014, 12:57:54 PM

Quote from: ZiG on September 16, 2014, 12:48:19 PM

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I wouldn't be so sure. I think they can squeeze 2 TH/s out of 1100-1200W.

2000G * 0.7W/GH = 1400W MINIMUM...OK... Huh

The assumption is that the S4 works with underclocked/undervolted ASICS to reach a better W/GH ratio, I would assume somewhere between 0.55 and 0.65 W/GH, so one 1300/1400W power supply could indeed do. But of course we'll not know for sure till @BITMAIN reveals the exact specs.

still, they wont give you something like
Evga 1500w Platinum Cheesy

and, btw...
5units of S3+ = 355w x 5 = 1,775W

i assume S4 will be around 1500w - 1700w
they wont waste chips like that..
they better selling chips like avalon do than planting so much undervolted chips
and sell it so damn cheap Grin

they're not doing charity here buddy Cheesy

In the U.S. a standard electrical socket is rated at 1600w max. I believe, so I don't think they'll go over that. Would be nice if a 1300w single power supply would be able to handle the new S4 with the EVGA G2 so cheap right now.

A 20 Amp 110 v circuit can handle a continuos load of roughly 2000 watts, not 1600. Give or take a bit of course. Most new construction uses 20 amp breakers.

Strato

It's not to say that a general contractor building kitchens won't put a couple of 15 amp outlets on a #12 gauge Romex circuit to a 20 amp breaker.

ha ha

..it is exactly what they did in my house-dinner room 20A circuit (I checked), all outlets there are of regular size (no T), the same in the garage (the only difference is that it says GFCI on outlets).

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Quote from: kgb2mining on September 16, 2014, 05:25:53 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on September 16, 2014, 05:05:52 PM

It looks like the S3 upgrade kits dont come with the enclosure...

which I must assume is going to make them run hotter than an S3...

Does anyone have some slick ideas for an enclosure to get around these? CHEAP not something someone made.

Besides taping cardboard around them, which I may end up doing.

Or I may just fabricate some sheet metal.

No, they are supposed to bolt up right to the same frame structure as the S1, reusing it. Honestly it shouldn't be any worse without the enclosure around it if you have proper airflow.

As for an enclosure, I'm working with another member on a rackmountable chassis to hold a few S3's (you can find the initial thread I think under group buys a month or two back). Hopefully the first prototype will be delivered in about a week, and the idea is to fit 12 S3's worth of blades and server PSU's in about 10U of rack space. If you PM me I'll get some pics of it to you when done (I won't want to search through pages of this thread in a couple weeks to find you... Wink

)

I was just looking thru my server room and extras and I think I actually have 2 rack mounted enclosures that were made for putting XT mother boards in them that may just work haha...
I presently have 3 S1's stacked and tied on top of each other and some others sitting on the floor at the bottom of some racks. They are all sitting at 41-42C so I guess I shouldnt even need to care about keeping things cool if I have s1's running that cool and overclocked. I have S3's sitting out in the office area and they are at 42-43 and super quiet where and S1 out here would be at 46-47 fans blazing. So it just seemed to me those enclosures were really helping keep the s3's cooler.

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Quote from: Stratobitz on September 16, 2014, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: IITravel01 on September 16, 2014, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: R4v37 on September 16, 2014, 01:13:51 PM

Quote from: Master One on September 16, 2014, 12:57:54 PM

Quote from: ZiG on September 16, 2014, 12:48:19 PM

Quote

I wouldn't be so sure. I think they can squeeze 2 TH/s out of 1100-1200W.

2000G * 0.7W/GH = 1400W MINIMUM...OK... Huh

The assumption is that the S4 works with underclocked/undervolted ASICS to reach a better W/GH ratio, I would assume somewhere between 0.55 and 0.65 W/GH, so one 1300/1400W power supply could indeed do. But of course we'll not know for sure till @BITMAIN reveals the exact specs.

still, they wont give you something like
Evga 1500w Platinum Cheesy

and, btw...
5units of S3+ = 355w x 5 = 1,775W

i assume S4 will be around 1500w - 1700w
they wont waste chips like that..
they better selling chips like avalon do than planting so much undervolted chips
and sell it so damn cheap Grin

they're not doing charity here buddy Cheesy

In the U.S. a standard electrical socket is rated at 1600w max. I believe, so I don't think they'll go over that. Would be nice if a 1300w single power supply would be able to handle the new S4 with the EVGA G2 so cheap right now.

A 20 Amp 110 v circuit can handle a continuos load of roughly 2000 watts, not 1600. Give or take a bit of course. Most new construction uses 20 amp breakers.

Strato

Standard outlets are rated at 15 amps. Outlets rated at 20 amps look differently. A 20 amp outlet has one of the two vertical slots having a T shape, the T on its side. Next time you're in Home Depot or Lowes take a look. Interestingly the 20 amp outlets have a clamp type wire hook-up. It's not to say that a general contractor building kitchens won't put a couple of 15 amp outlets on a #12 gauge Romex circuit to a 20 amp breaker.

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Quote from: bspurloc on September 16, 2014, 05:05:52 PM

It looks like the S3 upgrade kits dont come with the enclosure...

which I must assume is going to make them run hotter than an S3...

Does anyone have some slick ideas for an enclosure to get around these? CHEAP not something someone made.

Besides taping cardboard around them, which I may end up doing.

Or I may just fabricate some sheet metal.

No, they are supposed to bolt up right to the same frame structure as the S1, reusing it. Honestly it shouldn't be any worse without the enclosure around it if you have proper airflow.

As for an enclosure, I'm working with another member on a rackmountable chassis to hold a few S3's (you can find the initial thread I think under group buys a month or two back). Hopefully the first prototype will be delivered in about a week, and the idea is to fit 12 S3's worth of blades and server PSU's in about 10U of rack space. If you PM me I'll get some pics of it to you when done (I won't want to search through pages of this thread in a couple weeks to find you... Wink

)

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Quote from: mrpark on September 16, 2014, 04:52:37 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on September 16, 2014, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: IITravel01 on September 16, 2014, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: R4v37 on September 16, 2014, 01:13:51 PM

Quote from: Master One on September 16, 2014, 12:57:54 PM

Quote from: ZiG on September 16, 2014, 12:48:19 PM

Quote

I wouldn't be so sure. I think they can squeeze 2 TH/s out of 1100-1200W.

2000G * 0.7W/GH = 1400W MINIMUM...OK... Huh

The assumption is that the S4 works with underclocked/undervolted ASICS to reach a better W/GH ratio, I would assume somewhere between 0.55 and 0.65 W/GH, so one 1300/1400W power supply could indeed do. But of course we'll not know for sure till @BITMAIN reveals the exact specs.

still, they wont give you something like
Evga 1500w Platinum Cheesy

and, btw...
5units of S3+ = 355w x 5 = 1,775W

i assume S4 will be around 1500w - 1700w
they wont waste chips like that..
they better selling chips like avalon do than planting so much undervolted chips
and sell it so damn cheap Grin

they're not doing charity here buddy Cheesy

In the U.S. a standard electrical socket is rated at 1600w max. I believe, so I don't think they'll go over that. Would be nice if a 1300w single power supply would be able to handle the new S4 with the EVGA G2 so cheap right now.

A 20 Amp 110 v circuit can handle a continuos load of roughly 2000 watts, not 1600. Give or take a bit of course. Most new construction uses 20 amp breakers.

Strato

For continuous load you should not put more than max 1650w on a 20amp breaker, or the breaker will get hot and eventually burn out. Just like your tires going on the road 100MPH all the time. The formula for continuous load is subtract 25%. If your wire or breaker feels to hot then you are doing something wrong. 2000W is a no no.

We will just have to agree to disagree there. If a breaker is rated at 20 amps load at 110v it will certainly hold 1920. I also speak from experience here. Long term loads of 1800-1900 months on end. No issues. But yes the breaker will get warm.

Strato

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