Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 181. (Read 710164 times)

you would think they are going to make its price be 4x an S3 so 4*.58 = 2.32 BTC but then increase it to 2.5BTC just because.

The SP20 is equivalent to the S3 in all aspects.  I don't know why SPTech would release that unit, at that hashrate, at that delayed timeframe because it's no better than an S3 which is shipping today.  Waiting another 6 weeks for something I can get next week (new), or now (used)?  No thanks.

I'm going to assume the S4 will be better than the SP20, and arrive sooner.  It should follow the same upgrade path just like the S1 -> S3.  Meaning, it should just about double the hashrate for the same wattage, which will mean 2th/s at 1100w.  I see it coming in at around 2.2-2.4th/s at 1200w, but that's just my guess.  The only real question is the price.  If it's up around $1800 like the original was, it's a hard sell.  If it's down around $1400 or lower, then it's a good unit.  If it's around $1000, then back up the truck...

price must be at 2 btc

prob 2th, prob 1200 watts, prob 2btc. I want a bunch.Then in 3 months....L1 Litecoinminers FTW.

2TH/s
maybe they still using the same chip as S3

i assume, the S4 price will not below BTC3
coz, if they're really going to sale, then S3+ B9 will be below BTC0.58
and its still better to buy S3+ than S4
while S4 temp is gonna be exactly the same as S2, above 45C in the open space without AC, while S3 below 45C
i dont think S4 is gonna be better than S3

but.. nvm, maybe some of you wanna to be Miner collector   

Specs please!

what will u do with the old blades, if u upgraded the S2?
i think, its not a good choice for you to upgrade these miners, unless u got some bad chips

HOW I put in bitmain interface for install 4.6

more details i used putty or not??

Please beat SP20 in watts and price and I'll order a couple of truckloads 

Dear Everyone,

We are glad to share the news of ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 will be on sale this week, shipped before Sept. ends.

BITMAIN

Something similar tho I didn't try to return it as: a) I ripped it apart and changed the thermal conductive paste and b) although that improved it considerably it is still running slow but less than 10% off.  An inspection of the package, which I insisted be shipped USPS tho he wanted another carrier, shows the bottom of the package had been opened.  When it was closed  up he didn't even try to hide the fact it had been previously opened, just using the priority mail tape not the clear tape.  I had thought he had used a bigger box but I was wrong.  All the boxes are the same size.  He really didn't want to ship USPS even tho it was cheaper than the carrier he was suggesting.  I thought that was probably due to the long lines at the post office but perhaps he was worried about US Postal Mail Fraud because if the miner was a return from an other customer I doubt he could sell it as new.  I would suggest that when buying from a reseller, ask if the package had ever been opened and insist you want a miner in a box that hadn't yet been opened.

upgrade kit ordered 9/11 shipping today. nice

Hi all,

Hope someone can help in response to a problem I'm having with an RMA.  I'd been through all the diags with Tim from Bitmain and he'd agreed to do an RMA for one of the hashing boards as its only hashing at 170-176Gh, the other is fine.  I'd explained to Tim that I'd bought it from a reseller and was happy to purchase a board from them and then send the other back for a refund.

They advised that there was a 0.66BTC charge  (I know!) for a hashing board but would be refunded when the other is returned so I was happy to do this.  I filled the form in without the order number and reiterated that I bought from a reseller and I thought they'd be ok as I was paying for the board.  But my request got rejected at the final hurdle and was told to go back to my reseller.

Sooooooo I emailed my reseller who advised that I need to send a screenshot in, which I did.  It shows the unit on for about 14 hours with a hashrate of 387Ghs at stock speed.

The reseller has now been in touch and advised me that Bitmain are now refusing to do an RMA as it's within a +/- 10% threshold!

Anyone had anything similar happen? So frustrating!

I hope they don't void the warranty if you add a WiFi pigtail, drill the hole, and mount the antenna connector and antenna. Has anybody heard if Bitmain has a problem with us modding to allow WiFi?

That S3 rating is with 120V.  It gets more efficient when using a 240V feed.  Not enough to alter the ratio significantly though.

shipping for 3 SP20  is $480.00.
shipping for 1 SP20  is $160.00.

shipping for 20 Antminer S3+ is free .

And B9 is probably last Bach of Antminer S3+
I just purchased a 20 pc S3+ B9
No discounts are  offered, even though I've bought from them miners in the last 6 months  for more than 70BTC

Unfortunately, for me, is  the the SP 20  more expensive them 4x Antminer S3+ 
4x S3=905 euro+ 20%   
1x SP20=1350 euro + 20%

I'm sorry, I was not implying or trying to imply that your estimate was off.  It seemed to be pretty spot on to me.

Thanks for taking the time to elaborate what I did not.

M

Bitmain corrected my payment as "paid" and "valid" now.
it looks OK. Waiting for the shipment.
Thank you for all replies...

Just use BTC prices (instead of converting from BTC to $ to BTC), as it is an apples to apples comparison.  The assembled tube is .79 BTC each (0.7648 not assembled).  Shipping in the past was free, are you saying it changed?  If it hasn't changed, .79 BTC gets you 820 GH/s shipped, so 0.00096341 BTC per 1 GH/s.  The S3 is 0.58 BTC at 453 GH/s shipped, which is 0.00128 BTC per 1 GH/s.  That is not the same per $/GH/s (the S3 is about 33% more).  Maybe your conversion to $ and back has some rounding or something, I don't know.  If FriedCat charges for shipping, let me know, but last I heard it was included.

The S3 is a little more energy efficient that is for sure.  I have very cheap electricity rates, so this personally doesn't concern me, but it is probably a factor to others.  I would estimate at 1 TH/s the tube is about 200 watts higher energy usage.  At 0.12 per kWh, 1 TH/s would result in $17.28 more electricity per month using the tube.  However, the tube is about $150 cheaper per 1 TH/s so in about 8 months the $0.12 kWh would make then the same price.

I don't know about resale, hard to predict the future.  I think if you use it for the life of the miner, in about 5 months or so these will be priced very similar, but again hard to tell.  The S3 has a much larger following right now, that is for sure.  I don't think the tube has caught on (for numerous reasons).  Personally, I pretty much only care about the initial cost per 1 GH/s.  However, for others factoring in electrical costs and resale is important as well.

nice product... but paid within an hour and order is expired but BTC are on the address. they should increment the time of payment to two hours. not nice!  

EDIT: they fixed it manually.