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Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 263. (Read 451048 times)

legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.

Same here.  Although I may not be able to get it until Wednesday because of the holidays.   Angry

here is hoping it works well.
It would be a good way to end the Year If I get it on monday and it runs nicely.
donator
Activity: 4760
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.

Same here.  Although I may not be able to get it until Wednesday because of the holidays.   Angry
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Thank you for your reconsideration of the matter.

Unfortunately you seem to have overlooked the three (3) blades that were also part of the same issue. Valued by BITMAIN  China at 100USD each.

Also, if we had closed the matter in June as agreed, then the June BTC value would indeed be acceptable.

Instead you opted to cause us all much frustration & financial burden up until now, where the BTC value is less than half of what it was when you could/should have ended the matter.

As such i implore you to re-calculate the full refund value of 260 + 230 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 790 USD in todays BTC price.

This will be acceptable & i will agree that the matter is closed. I will also post my appreciation on each thread to remove the aforementioned tarnish.

I am regretful it has taken so long and so many posts to finally come close to a reconciliation, but i welcome the opportunity.

Sincerely,

Edgar

I hope it works out. Best of luck to you.

Hi Edgar,

PM sent, because the parts you reported have no chance to return to our hand to check....But it is not the key now, we take on all in order to close this case, save time and move forward.

Dear all loyal customers, our truly apologies for the harassment of this case here and there, we are now pushing it to the close, and will return a clear S5 support thread for our loyal customers.

Janet
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1013
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
this page warms the cockles of my old heart   Smiley good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.

 Well they should. I would say for more then the last 7 months they have been the best 2 companies out there.
There should be room for the both of them.  And miners can benefit from this.  
They are so far above :

BFL
KNC
AVALON

It really is not fair to put them in the same post with those 3 companies.
They have sold some decent gear to many of us. Far more often then other companies.

@ bitmain   I am looking forward to the s-5

@ edgar  I woke up this morning and see that maybe you will get some resolution with your issues. That would be nice.  

Some advice to both bitmain and edgar   if the numbers are involved are  500 and 1000   just do 750 and then forget it.  

if the numbers are  400 and 800  do 600.

I say this  as a victim of bfl and bips and black arrow and I forgot the other one.  

1)BFL finally refunded all monies 13.5 months later

2)Bips took .4 btc when btc was worth 1100 usd  they never gave me a dime-  it hurts to pay for my spondoolies with bitpay as bips became bitpay

3) black arrow  via DZcoop grabbed 1300 in btc I was refund 600 in btc due to the drop in btc price---------very similar to your case edgar

4) another DZcoop deal went bust I have never got a dime back about 199

I gave up on Bips -Bitpay  
I gave up on That DZcoop deal

The other 2 I call settled.

Although the Bips-Bitpay still angers me as my funds were taken after the 1100 coin hack of BIPS and I have a timeline to prove that.


I am still waiting for my KnC Neptune "Bonus" compensatory miner over one year after ordering. I expect the Neptune to arrive in pieces from their Data Center when they get their next gen. I hope I never have to deal with KnC again. I fortunately didn't spend much on BFL, and I was lucky the gear was only 5 months(!!!) late. They gave me a long speech about the risk with pre-order. Only problem was that I didn't pre-order, I had ordered after they started shipping. Too bad they got control of their company again.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
this page warms the cockles of my old heart   Smiley good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.

 Well they should. I would say for more then the last 7 months they have been the best 2 companies out there.
There should be room for the both of them.  And miners can benefit from this.  
They are so far above :

BFL
KNC
AVALON

It really is not fair to put them in the same post with those 3 companies.
They have sold some decent gear to many of us. Far more often then other companies.

@ bitmain   I am looking forward to the s-5

@ edgar  I woke up this morning and see that maybe you will get some resolution with your issues. That would be nice.  

Some advice to both bitmain and edgar   if the numbers are involved are  500 and 1000   just do 750 and then forget it.  

if the numbers are  400 and 800  do 600.

I say this  as a victim of bfl and bips and black arrow and I forgot the other one.  

1)BFL finally refunded all monies 13.5 months later

2)Bips took .4 btc when btc was worth 1100 usd  they never gave me a dime-  it hurts to pay for my spondoolies with bitpay as bips became bitpay

3) black arrow  via DZcoop grabbed 1300 in btc I was refund 600 in btc due to the drop in btc price---------very similar to your case edgar

4) another DZcoop deal went bust I have never got a dime back about 199

I gave up on Bips -Bitpay  
I gave up on That DZcoop deal

The other 2 I call settled.

Although the Bips-Bitpay still angers me as my funds were taken after the 1100 coin hack of BIPS and I have a timeline to prove that.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1013
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Thank you for your reconsideration of the matter.

Unfortunately you seem to have overlooked the three (3) blades that were also part of the same issue. Valued by BITMAIN  China at 100USD each.

Also, if we had closed the matter in June as agreed, then the June BTC value would indeed be acceptable.

Instead you opted to cause us all much frustration & financial burden up until now, where the BTC value is less than half of what it was when you could/should have ended the matter.

As such i implore you to re-calculate the full refund value of 260 + 230 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 790 USD in todays BTC price.

This will be acceptable & i will agree that the matter is closed. I will also post my appreciation on each thread to remove the aforementioned tarnish.

I am regretful it has taken so long and so many posts to finally come close to a reconciliation, but i welcome the opportunity.

Sincerely,

Edgar

I hope it works out. Best of luck to you.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1001
Thank you for your reconsideration of the matter.

Unfortunately you seem to have overlooked the three (3) blades that were also part of the same issue. Valued by BITMAIN  China at 100USD each.

Also, if we had closed the matter in June as agreed, then the June BTC value would indeed be acceptable.

Instead you opted to cause us all much frustration & financial burden up until now, where the BTC value is less than half of what it was when you could/should have ended the matter.

As such i implore you to re-calculate the full refund value of 260 + 230 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 790 USD in todays BTC price.

This will be acceptable & i will agree that the matter is closed. I will also post my appreciation on each thread to remove the aforementioned tarnish.

I am regretful it has taken so long and so many posts to finally come close to a reconciliation, but i welcome the opportunity.

Sincerely,

Edgar
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
this page warms the cockles of my old heart   Smiley good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Not my thread, I'll be quick. Please PM your order #

My PM is sent as well...
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
@Spondoolies-Tech,

Good Catch!  


@727Miner,  Hope you get your refund!!!  Bring your refund $ to us for a better $/GH and W/GH miner for longer expected mining duration!   Grin Grin Grin



************************************************
Bitmain will be at the 2015 International CES Show
in Las Vegas, USA -  January 6-9, 2015.
http://www.cesweb.org/
************************************************

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

S5 Available to Purchase with a Credit Card for USA Customers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00RBV2OE6/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1419741122&sr=8-2&keywords=Antminer+S5&condition=new

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Thanks.. I have purchased lots of S1, S2 and S3 hardware and have been very happy with them. I skipped the S4 lot but am considering buying the S5's since I have plenty of power supplies and the form factor fits my space well. I'm just waiting to hear some reviews from some of the members on here.
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
Something about this chip gives me the feeling that all mining will eventually go the way of underclocked ASICS.  Its a lot less GH but its so much lower J/G.

Chips are not much more than the cost of sand if you own the manufacturing and intellectual property.. clearly a growth path to sell miners with more and more chips per unit with low power requirements one the tech is proven to be stable to the community I would think.   It seems like it would be easy to double the hashing output with similar cooling and power consumption when the timing is right for bitmain to do so.

I'm not an EE genius.. but I don't understand why they wouldnt eventually just use different DC-DC modules internally to provide 9v or 12v w/ standard PSU.  Possibly saving that for the next miner with the BM1384?  I also don't fully understand the string vs chain discussions going on..  I guess stringing the chips make other chips dependant on one another for hashing output.. My mind draws analogies to a string of christmas lights where the rest go out when a bulb blows, or running a bunch of hard drives in raid 0 (other drives in the array have useless data with the missing member).  Of course I haven't scoured the discussions on these matters, and have only gleaned over the facts... but there sure is a lot of crazy heated discussion going on.  Anyone have any link backs to messages in this thread or other threads which may help to learn me up.   When I get a minute I'll try to read over the BM1384 whitepaper, I assume it might be the source of a lot of this conjecture.

So far MOST of the bitmain stuff I have purchased has been pretty on point and meets the specs which they claim their miners should meet*, and have publicly and quickly adjusted those specs when they were not accurate..  Ie. Antminer S3 launch 480GH/s -> 441GH/s and even gave refunds for the hashing difference if you purchased when they claimed it would be 480GH/s

(*Its important to note that honesty is good business, but bitmain isn't in the business of charity, you would be lucky to mine back the BTC you spend buying any miner.. so do this for the fun of it.. Don't buy miners to profit.. companies which make miners certainly aren't selling them so you can make a profit.. you WON'T make a profit mining.. Expect 60% of your BTC to come back that you spend AFTER you pay the electric bill. the shrewd miners who do still mine do it for the love of mining and they will sell their equip to recoup and break even, and buy back in on the next most efficient equipment.. even though they know even that isnt the sane investment to make.. The smartest miners probably rebuy their BTC so they are spending fiat not crypto, so at the end of the day they can see some justifiable profit.. even though buying BTC would have been much smarter.. but not nearly as tangible, or fun.)

As far as spondoolies goes.  I love my Sp20's.... great miners.  However the Spondoolie guys clearly overstated its hashing power at 1.7TH.  Honest marketing here would have been 1.333TH/s @ .55J/Gh at the wall...  with overclocking to 1.55TH/s (1.7TH/s being possible but not guaranteed)..  This is the real specs of the Sp20 miner...  And what about those refunds they said they would be sending for slipped delivery dates.. I never got one?  Did anyone?

Anyway.. I can understand concerns with chip failures.. they happen.. and if it takes out a whole string permanantly if a chip dies permanantly.. thats bad bad bad.. but so far every other antminer I have owned (well over 30 so far) have had exceedingly resilient asics... if one did overheat it has always come back after a reboot if it dropped off because of an overclock, and always behaved well when it was clocked at the advertised frequencies... When deployed sanely the built in safeties seem to do their job.. and allow an adjustment to consistently stable operation.

I'm just sharing some thoughts.  

Rich


Nope, I never got a refund from SPT for the slipped SP20 dates back in November.. I have emailed Barbara and Katya multiple times about it and they just blow me off with empty promises. Their miners are top notch and well built but their slow shipping and poor communication make dealing with them a hassle.
Not my thread, I'll be quick. Please PM your order #

PM sent..
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
We see no issues with the post!  We all have to work together to keep the customer happy.  Bitcoin 2.0, keep the business CLEAN and Honest!!  This Forum is a big family in a way Smiley

We didn't send as many as you did, but yes, we shipped out some Demo Units to Legendary and Hero Members!  We are learning the tricks fast  Grin Grin Grin

Some may got caught up in the holiday shipping delay/closure but they should be finally arriving on Monday or so  Cheesy

Happy Holidays!  Hope BTC Bull will take some Caffein steroid and hops on a jet engine to get to the MOON!!!


@Spondoolies-Tech,

Good Catch!  


@727Miner,  Hope you get your refund!!!  Bring your refund $ to us for a better $/GH and W/GH miner for longer expected mining duration!   Grin Grin Grin


It's not fair, I shouldn't reply in your thread.
Can't resist it though. All statements are untrue.
I suggest that you'll do legendaries reviews party for the S5 to prove.  Grin
Amen.
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
We see no issues with the post!  We all have to work together to keep the customer happy.  Bitcoin 2.0, keep the business CLEAN and Honest!!  This Forum is a big family in a way Smiley

We didn't send as many as you did, but yes, we shipped out some Demo Units to Legendary and Hero Members!  We are learning the tricks fast  Grin Grin Grin

Some may got caught up in the holiday shipping delay/closure but they should be finally arriving on Monday or so  Cheesy

Happy Holidays!  Hope BTC Bull will take some Caffein steroid and hops on a jet engine to get to the MOON!!!


@Spondoolies-Tech,

Good Catch!  


@727Miner,  Hope you get your refund!!!  Bring your refund $ to us for a better $/GH and W/GH miner for longer expected mining duration!   Grin Grin Grin


It's not fair, I shouldn't reply in your thread.
Can't resist it though. All statements are untrue.
I suggest that you'll do legendaries reviews party for the S5 to prove.  Grin
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
@Spondoolies-Tech,

Good Catch!  


@727Miner,  Hope you get your refund!!!  Bring your refund $ to us for a better $/GH and W/GH miner for longer expected mining duration!   Grin Grin Grin


It's not fair, I shouldn't reply in your thread.
Can't resist it though. All statements are untrue.
I suggest that you'll do legendaries reviews party for the S5 to prove.  Grin
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
@Spondoolies-Tech,

Good Catch!  


@727Miner,  Hope you get your refund!!!  Bring your refund $ to us for a better $/GH and W/GH miner for longer expected mining duration!   Grin Grin Grin



************************************************
Bitmain will be at the 2015 International CES Show
in Las Vegas, USA -  January 6-9, 2015.
http://www.cesweb.org/
************************************************

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

S5 Available to Purchase with a Credit Card for USA Customers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00RBV2OE6/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1419741122&sr=8-2&keywords=Antminer+S5&condition=new

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
Something about this chip gives me the feeling that all mining will eventually go the way of underclocked ASICS.  Its a lot less GH but its so much lower J/G.

Chips are not much more than the cost of sand if you own the manufacturing and intellectual property.. clearly a growth path to sell miners with more and more chips per unit with low power requirements one the tech is proven to be stable to the community I would think.   It seems like it would be easy to double the hashing output with similar cooling and power consumption when the timing is right for bitmain to do so.

I'm not an EE genius.. but I don't understand why they wouldnt eventually just use different DC-DC modules internally to provide 9v or 12v w/ standard PSU.  Possibly saving that for the next miner with the BM1384?  I also don't fully understand the string vs chain discussions going on..  I guess stringing the chips make other chips dependant on one another for hashing output.. My mind draws analogies to a string of christmas lights where the rest go out when a bulb blows, or running a bunch of hard drives in raid 0 (other drives in the array have useless data with the missing member).  Of course I haven't scoured the discussions on these matters, and have only gleaned over the facts... but there sure is a lot of crazy heated discussion going on.  Anyone have any link backs to messages in this thread or other threads which may help to learn me up.   When I get a minute I'll try to read over the BM1384 whitepaper, I assume it might be the source of a lot of this conjecture.

So far MOST of the bitmain stuff I have purchased has been pretty on point and meets the specs which they claim their miners should meet*, and have publicly and quickly adjusted those specs when they were not accurate..  Ie. Antminer S3 launch 480GH/s -> 441GH/s and even gave refunds for the hashing difference if you purchased when they claimed it would be 480GH/s

(*Its important to note that honesty is good business, but bitmain isn't in the business of charity, you would be lucky to mine back the BTC you spend buying any miner.. so do this for the fun of it.. Don't buy miners to profit.. companies which make miners certainly aren't selling them so you can make a profit.. you WON'T make a profit mining.. Expect 60% of your BTC to come back that you spend AFTER you pay the electric bill. the shrewd miners who do still mine do it for the love of mining and they will sell their equip to recoup and break even, and buy back in on the next most efficient equipment.. even though they know even that isnt the sane investment to make.. The smartest miners probably rebuy their BTC so they are spending fiat not crypto, so at the end of the day they can see some justifiable profit.. even though buying BTC would have been much smarter.. but not nearly as tangible, or fun.)

As far as spondoolies goes.  I love my Sp20's.... great miners.  However the Spondoolie guys clearly overstated its hashing power at 1.7TH.  Honest marketing here would have been 1.333TH/s @ .55J/Gh at the wall...  with overclocking to 1.55TH/s (1.7TH/s being possible but not guaranteed)..  This is the real specs of the Sp20 miner...  And what about those refunds they said they would be sending for slipped delivery dates.. I never got one?  Did anyone?

Anyway.. I can understand concerns with chip failures.. they happen.. and if it takes out a whole string permanantly if a chip dies permanantly.. thats bad bad bad.. but so far every other antminer I have owned (well over 30 so far) have had exceedingly resilient asics... if one did overheat it has always come back after a reboot if it dropped off because of an overclock, and always behaved well when it was clocked at the advertised frequencies... When deployed sanely the built in safeties seem to do their job.. and allow an adjustment to consistently stable operation.

I'm just sharing some thoughts.  

Rich


Nope, I never got a refund from SPT for the slipped SP20 dates back in November.. I have emailed Barbara and Katya multiple times about it and they just blow me off with empty promises. Their miners are top notch and well built but their slow shipping and poor communication make dealing with them a hassle.
Not my thread, I'll be quick. Please PM your order #
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
Wire Transfer payment Processing Time varies depends on where you send the money from and if the sending bank has direct wire to the receiving end or it requires intermediary bank then to out of the country. 

Example, the wire transfer from the major bank that doesn't require intermediary could show up as the same night, or the next business day. 

While the originating bank that requires intermediary bank to send the international wire may take 3-4 business days before Bitmain receives pending incoming wire notice and 1 additional business day to clear the actual wire.

Wire payment should show PAID in your account, as those are manually processed by the international sales team.


What's the usual confirmation time on an order getting switched from unpaid to paid after a wire transfer, or does it never update? My recollection from the S1/S2 days is that the website often never gets updated with that kind of thing, but it'd be nice to make sure the transfer made it through.

Since its a manual process it wouldn't hurt to follow up with an e-mail to [email protected] with the relevant details..


hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
Something about this chip gives me the feeling that all mining will eventually go the way of underclocked ASICS.  Its a lot less GH but its so much lower J/G.

Chips are not much more than the cost of sand if you own the manufacturing and intellectual property.. clearly a growth path to sell miners with more and more chips per unit with low power requirements one the tech is proven to be stable to the community I would think.   It seems like it would be easy to double the hashing output with similar cooling and power consumption when the timing is right for bitmain to do so.

I'm not an EE genius.. but I don't understand why they wouldnt eventually just use different DC-DC modules internally to provide 9v or 12v w/ standard PSU.  Possibly saving that for the next miner with the BM1384?  I also don't fully understand the string vs chain discussions going on..  I guess stringing the chips make other chips dependant on one another for hashing output.. My mind draws analogies to a string of christmas lights where the rest go out when a bulb blows, or running a bunch of hard drives in raid 0 (other drives in the array have useless data with the missing member).  Of course I haven't scoured the discussions on these matters, and have only gleaned over the facts... but there sure is a lot of crazy heated discussion going on.  Anyone have any link backs to messages in this thread or other threads which may help to learn me up.   When I get a minute I'll try to read over the BM1384 whitepaper, I assume it might be the source of a lot of this conjecture.

So far MOST of the bitmain stuff I have purchased has been pretty on point and meets the specs which they claim their miners should meet*, and have publicly and quickly adjusted those specs when they were not accurate..  Ie. Antminer S3 launch 480GH/s -> 441GH/s and even gave refunds for the hashing difference if you purchased when they claimed it would be 480GH/s

(*Its important to note that honesty is good business, but bitmain isn't in the business of charity, you would be lucky to mine back the BTC you spend buying any miner.. so do this for the fun of it.. Don't buy miners to profit.. companies which make miners certainly aren't selling them so you can make a profit.. you WON'T make a profit mining.. Expect 60% of your BTC to come back that you spend AFTER you pay the electric bill. the shrewd miners who do still mine do it for the love of mining and they will sell their equip to recoup and break even, and buy back in on the next most efficient equipment.. even though they know even that isnt the sane investment to make.. The smartest miners probably rebuy their BTC so they are spending fiat not crypto, so at the end of the day they can see some justifiable profit.. even though buying BTC would have been much smarter.. but not nearly as tangible, or fun.)

As far as spondoolies goes.  I love my Sp20's.... great miners.  However the Spondoolie guys clearly overstated its hashing power at 1.7TH.  Honest marketing here would have been 1.333TH/s @ .55J/Gh at the wall...  with overclocking to 1.55TH/s (1.7TH/s being possible but not guaranteed)..  This is the real specs of the Sp20 miner...  And what about those refunds they said they would be sending for slipped delivery dates.. I never got one?  Did anyone?

Anyway.. I can understand concerns with chip failures.. they happen.. and if it takes out a whole string permanantly if a chip dies permanantly.. thats bad bad bad.. but so far every other antminer I have owned (well over 30 so far) have had exceedingly resilient asics... if one did overheat it has always come back after a reboot if it dropped off because of an overclock, and always behaved well when it was clocked at the advertised frequencies... When deployed sanely the built in safeties seem to do their job.. and allow an adjustment to consistently stable operation.

I'm just sharing some thoughts.  

Rich


Nope, I never got a refund from SPT for the slipped SP20 dates back in November.. I have emailed Barbara and Katya multiple times about it and they just blow me off with empty promises. Their miners are top notch and well built but their slow shipping and poor communication make dealing with them a hassle.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
What's the usual confirmation time on an order getting switched from unpaid to paid after a wire transfer, or does it never update? My recollection from the S1/S2 days is that the website often never gets updated with that kind of thing, but it'd be nice to make sure the transfer made it through.

Since its a manual process it wouldn't hurt to follow up with an e-mail to [email protected] with the relevant details..

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