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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 219. (Read 527809 times)

legendary
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Technical Analyst/Trader
I'm well up on identifying and locating electrical troubles on low voltage and high voltage circuits.  However, I'm not up on networking in data centers.  So, I have a question for those of you with experience in data centers about PDU's.

I have my eyeballs on getting Tripp Lite PDU's that are "switched."  I want the ability to monitor and manage what is plugged into them while I'm away at times.  I'll use Team Viewer to log into my rigs and PDU's.  Sometimes, there is a need to turn off the power to a rig that is non-responsive in my browser.  I just had that issue this evening and had to power it down and back up again to access it in my browser.  My question is the following about a particular model PDU I'm wanting to stock up on.

The specifications on this 30 Amp PDU states the following:  "(agency de-rated to 24 amps)."  Does this mean I (the agency) have the option to "de-rate to 24 amps" or does it mean it's limited to 80% (24 Amps) regardless?

Here is a link to the PDU:  http://www.tripplite.com/switched-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c13-c19-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HVNET/

I have a bunch of TrippLite PDU's, and I must say I'm very disappointed with them - I run everything 240v, and their power control for switching the outlets is only on half of the circuit, meaning they only have a relay on one of the legs of the 240v connection.  What this means is if your PSU is 120v/240v tolerant, it has a good chance that it will NOT turn off when you toggle an outlet - it will just switch to 120v.  Here's what's even worse - many of the server-grade PSU's, like the IBM 2880W, that is supposed to be only 240v, will continue to work when a leg drops - so even most of the server PSU's continue just fine.  Basically make remote rebooting completely worthless with them.  They may have corrected this with newer models, but I was pretty pissed when I picked up 20 of their higher end ones with environmental monitoring, only to discover they are hardly better than a glorified power strip.


You should have a factory warranty if you bought yours new.  I take it you did not call Tripp Lite or get back with the seller to see about setting up a return and/or replacement? After calling Tripp Lite, you may find it could have been user error.

Is there anyone else who can answer my question about "(agency de-rated to 24 amps)" ?
legendary
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From where can I purchase this?

from marketplace here or ebay, sold out on bitmaintech.com
will come back soon, most likely
full member
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Do people actually manage to get their order in for only 4 BTC. Its crazy cheap right now.

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 6 - Sold Out

Agh, that blows.  Guess I'll be waiting on batch 7 which will probably not be fixed BTC.
legendary
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Technical Analyst/Trader
From where can I purchase this?

You can purchase with bitcoin or wire transfer at bitmaintech.com
hero member
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From where can I purchase this?
hero member
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I'm well up on identifying and locating electrical troubles on low voltage and high voltage circuits.  However, I'm not up on networking in data centers.  So, I have a question for those of you with experience in data centers about PDU's.

I have my eyeballs on getting Tripp Lite PDU's that are "switched."  I want the ability to monitor and manage what is plugged into them while I'm away at times.  I'll use Team Viewer to log into my rigs and PDU's.  Sometimes, there is a need to turn off the power to a rig that is non-responsive in my browser.  I just had that issue this evening and had to power it down and back up again to access it in my browser.  My question is the following about a particular model PDU I'm wanting to stock up on.

The specifications on this 30 Amp PDU states the following:  "(agency de-rated to 24 amps)."  Does this mean I (the agency) have the option to "de-rate to 24 amps" or does it mean it's limited to 80% (24 Amps) regardless?

Here is a link to the PDU:  http://www.tripplite.com/switched-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c13-c19-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HVNET/

I have a bunch of TrippLite PDU's, and I must say I'm very disappointed with them - I run everything 240v, and their power control for switching the outlets is only on half of the circuit, meaning they only have a relay on one of the legs of the 240v connection.  What this means is if your PSU is 120v/240v tolerant, it has a good chance that it will NOT turn off when you toggle an outlet - it will just switch to 120v.  Here's what's even worse - many of the server-grade PSU's, like the IBM 2880W, that is supposed to be only 240v, will continue to work when a leg drops - so even most of the server PSU's continue just fine.  Basically make remote rebooting completely worthless with them.  They may have corrected this with newer models, but I was pretty pissed when I picked up 20 of their higher end ones with environmental monitoring, only to discover they are hardly better than a glorified power strip.
legendary
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Do people actually manage to get their order in for only 4 BTC. Its crazy cheap right now.

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 6 - Sold Out
legendary
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Ahh, poor Bitmain.  They fix their B1-5 to USD and the price skyrockets.  They fix their B6 to BTC and the price drops out.  It's a good time to be a buyer folks.

I think you need to remove B1 from the above as most of us paid 7.5-8+ BTC...had to wait weeks pass the shipping date, with no compensation yet. Bitmain had it all his way on B1.
legendary
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Technical Analyst/Trader
Hi everyone,

I'm well up on identifying and locating electrical troubles on low voltage and high voltage circuits.  However, I'm not up on networking in data centers.  So, I have a question for those of you with experience in data centers about PDU's.

I have my eyeballs on getting Tripp Lite PDU's that are "switched."  I want the ability to monitor and manage what is plugged into them while I'm away at times.  I'll use Team Viewer to log into my rigs and PDU's.  Sometimes, there is a need to turn off the power to a rig that is non-responsive in my browser.  I just had that issue this evening and had to power it down and back up again to access it in my browser.  My question is the following about a particular model PDU I'm wanting to stock up on.

The specifications on this 30 Amp PDU states the following:  "(agency de-rated to 24 amps)."  Does this mean I (the agency) have the option to "de-rate to 24 amps" or does it mean it's limited to 80% (24 Amps) regardless?

Here is a link to the PDU:  http://www.tripplite.com/switched-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c13-c19-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HVNET/
hero member
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Do people actually manage to get their order in for only 4 BTC. Its crazy cheap right now.

Truf...Crazy cheap... Sad ordered many of them a few days ago.
legendary
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Up to 300% + 200 FS deposit bonuses
Do people actually manage to get their order in for only 4 BTC. Its crazy cheap right now.
legendary
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Ok, I had possible short internet blackout or disturbance (was not at home).
came back to observe the following:

One batch 2 miner (9/15 system) fully recovered by itself.
Second batch 2 miner (10/23 system) did not recover, both fans were rotating, but not full tilt, air was coming out hot and miner was making a solid noise (not periodic, but continuous beeping); it was obviously not mining and did not recover the internet connection. I switched it off, let it sit for 5-10min with an external fan blowing air toward intake. Once air was coming out ~ambient, I switched the PSU back on and miner recovered internet and is hashing.

Conclusions:
in this batch 2 (updated to October system), fans were NOT rotating at high speed after internet loss and miner did not recover by itself upon internet restoration, but miner with 9/15 system did (the opposite of what you would be expecting).
The good news is that it did not burn itself either.

This was an issue with the S5's. I first reported it back in the S5 thread several months ago. I'll never be able to find the thread. I came very close to burning up all my S5's so I chose to hook up all my fans directly to the PSU and not rely on the controller. Simple molex 3/4 pin board. User "thedreamer" prompt the idea a while back. Never had heat issues or any issues since then.

EDIT: Wasn't aware the S7's had a manual fan control. I never upgraded my S5 firmware that I believe does have that control. Don't remember, but since my S5 firmware is so stable and consistent I did not want to upgrade. Just moved fans to constant power.


yeah, i remember your posts, it was good insight.

The point i was trying to make was that bitmain warranty was suggesting to update to 10/23 system that should have addressed the issue.
My surprise was that it did not (at least fully), although miner did not burn.
surprisingly, batch 2 miner with older system did not have any problems.
My guess, each and every case is different, which makes it challenging to generalize.
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Mine was finally processed in California and is now heading to Toomim Bros in Washington.

I'm sending mine to Toomim Bros also so post your experiences when things get set up for you.  I placed my order on 9/6 so nothing for me yet.

How are you going to make your money back, you are getting charged for co-location fees, right?


The hosting fees charged by Toomim works out to $0.11/kWh power costs which is cheaper than the electrical cost at my house.  I am averaging $28.00 per day after I deduct the average daily fee for my 4 S7s.  After selling all of my S5s (which had been running for 3 months after reaching ROI) and adding ~$2000 in to get these 4 machines, I will be back to even cost in about 80 days from the day they were delivered which was 12 days ago or in about 68 days from now.  I'd say I'm well on my way to getting my money back in the accounting sense...my speadsheet turns from red back to black on or about January 15, 2016.

Best of all, I'm not spending a penny on upgrading my electrical service, on any sound proofing measures, or on any additional cooling measures.
legendary
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Personal text my ass....
Ok, I had possible short internet blackout or disturbance (was not at home).
came back to observe the following:

One batch 2 miner (9/15 system) fully recovered by itself.
Second batch 2 miner (10/23 system) did not recover, both fans were rotating, but not full tilt, air was coming out hot and miner was making a solid noise (not periodic, but continuous beeping); it was obviously not mining and did not recover the internet connection. I switched it off, let it sit for 5-10min with an external fan blowing air toward intake. Once air was coming out ~ambient, I switched the PSU back on and miner recovered internet and is hashing.

Conclusions:
in this batch 2 (updated to October system), fans were NOT rotating at high speed after internet loss and miner did not recover by itself upon internet restoration, but miner with 9/15 system did (the opposite of what you would be expecting).
The good news is that it did not burn itself either.

This was an issue with the S5's. I first reported it back in the S5 thread several months ago. I'll never be able to find the thread. I came very close to burning up all my S5's so I chose to hook up all my fans directly to the PSU and not rely on the controller. Simple molex 3/4 pin board. User "thedreamer" prompt the idea a while back. Never had heat issues or any issues since then.

EDIT: Wasn't aware the S7's had a manual fan control. I never upgraded my S5 firmware that I believe does have that control. Don't remember, but since my S5 firmware is so stable and consistent I did not want to upgrade. Just moved fans to constant power.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
I have two now .. both of them beeps like a hell Smiley ..so it does

You hear beeping over the jet blasters?
You can hear them a block away, pretty powerful little things.


That's a good question. Has anyone changed the fans out on their S7 to a quieter version?
It seems like most people just set a manual fan speed, which at about 30-35% allows you to make it an S3'esque level.
legendary
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Personal text my ass....
^you can get away with a bit more than 80% load, but i would absolutely not exceed 90%. for the risks it creates, you may as well just install another breaker+wire run, instead of risking a failure in your wiring.


That's the way I am leaning right now since if a fire did start it wouldn't be to code and insurance would have a valid argument. I guess I will simply use the wire for the 240v run for the unused AC during the winter, seems better than gambling with fire and code violations.

Thanks for the banter, it helped convince me not to overload the PDU's marginally. Smiley


Ufo

Wait, you don't have a fire suppression system with that setup? When there's that much invested you want to protect it. If you've never experienced a fire you'd think real hard about making some changes. And I'm not talking about a little stove fire from burnt butter. I'm talking about burn the house down fire.
legendary
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Ahh, poor Bitmain.  They fix their B1-5 to USD and the price skyrockets.  They fix their B6 to BTC and the price drops out.  It's a good time to be a buyer folks.

Yup, i just bought mine Smiley

I'm tempted, but I always jump a day too early...

Very tempted.

At what USD/BTC Exchange rate will Bitmain change their pricing back to dollars?

Guesses?

I got one-confirmed within seconds (cost with shipping $1392)
Q #2-at $300 or maybe midday in Shanghai, whichever comes first.
Edit: losing ~$90-98 already, oh well, usually you cannot hit the best price.
sr. member
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Hi, does anybody knows how to stop beep sound when connection to net is down? I cannot find any controler of "beep sound" like S4 had. Thanks for any advice.
I don't think the S7's have a speaker to notify you when the internet connection goes down. I may be wrong but I though that's how they designed them.

I have two now .. both of them beeps like a hell Smiley ..so it does

You hear beeping over the jet blasters?


That's a good question. Has anyone changed the fans out on their S7 to a quieter version?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Personal text my ass....
Hi, does anybody knows how to stop beep sound when connection to net is down? I cannot find any controler of "beep sound" like S4 had. Thanks for any advice.
I don't think the S7's have a speaker to notify you when the internet connection goes down. I may be wrong but I though that's how they designed them.

I have two now .. both of them beeps like a hell Smiley ..so it does

You hear beeping over the jet blasters?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Personal text my ass....
Mine was finally processed in California and is now heading to Toomim Bros in Washington.

I'm sending mine to Toomim Bros also so post your experiences when things get set up for you.  I placed my order on 9/6 so nothing for me yet.

How are you going to make your money back, you are getting charged for co-location fees, right?
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