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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 379. (Read 528055 times)

legendary
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It is all relative to btc price. If you start your investment with $$, then you would not mind 20% diff increase as long as the price increased 30-300% in the same time period, right?
What we have, on the other hand, is stable (last 7 mo) or declining (last 20 mo) btc price, while difficulty is still rising.
We have a distorted market because market participants don't have equal free excess to mining equpment as many manufactureres don't even make such equipment available at any price.

In other words, the stakes are against home miners, this is clear.

Not necessarily. 

If you buy a miner for 2 bitcoins when bitcoin is at $200 your total cost is $400.  The difficulty increases until it is no longer profitable to mine. You end up mining 1.5 bitcoin but the price is now $400.  You say, hey I now have $600 when I started with $400, so I made money.  But if you look at the return of bitcoins, you just lost money because you started with 2 and now have 1.5.

On the flip side, if price is stagnant or decreasing slightly, and as a result difficulty remains stagnant or even decreases some, that miner may run profitably for a long while, and you may end up with 4 bitcoins at $150 by the time the miner isn't profitable. In this case you've essentially purchased 4 bitcoins for $100 each and you started with $400 and ended with $600. But if you had bought 2 bitcoins instead you'd  have spent $400 and ended with $300.

Obviously there's other variables at play, but mining could be a way to protect against a drop in price at the expense of some upside if the price increases. 

You offer another positive way of looking at this.  Thanks for your input.
full member
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I tried to buy and put shipping location to my friend in mainland china and bring it to me, but the price S7 will be taxed 17% and I asked bitmain about that, they told me its VAT tax 17%..HUHHH?

My china friend told me, its not actually VAT tax, its just every export company is encourage by the China's government to export and get 17% tax refund. So if i select shipping to mainland china, then bitmain still charge 17%, bitmain doesnt wanna lose that 17% tax refund.

No wonder Bitmain doesnt want downgrade the value of the invoice, that company is looking for 17% value of the invoice tax refund....moree and more profit for bitmain hehh....

So where to buy Antminer for local china customer??? i dont think they will buy online directly from bitmain website...
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legendary
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Well, I ordered 9 x S7's.  Wish I could have ordered 10.  I might still order another in a few days.  Hard to say...  I feel like a young boy counting down the days to Christmas again.   Cheesy

must...have...S7...
mining bitcoin-one of more pleasant addictions

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Can someone tell me if Bitmain Tech is reliable ... will i receive my shipment
We are worried to order because of the payment methods ...

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks !
they have a really good record of shipping gear that you paid for.

+1

Bitmain is an honorable company (as far as BTC mining equipment manufacturers can be anyway) and has one of the better reputations.  I recall being leery of wiring them several thousand dollars in the past but had absolutely no hesitation when I placed my order for 4 S7's on the 30th.

With no competition, I agree that their prices are slightly high in the market however their customer service has been by far better than any other Chinese manufacturer.
legendary
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I am thinking I will use A/C to cool my 5 S7's this summer. It will be a very small room built from insulated space panel. I will have 5 S7's powered by the Bitmain PSU's. My problem is though, that the cooling capacity of my A/C is 6KW and my miners will be drawing about 6KW.

Do I need to have more than 6KW cooling for my setup?

Thanks

AC is not the way to go. You need to extract the hot air outside and replace it with fresh air from the exterior of your mining room. I suggest starting a thread in mining support, as this is not really the place to ask for cooling help.
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I am thinking I will use A/C to cool my 5 S7's this summer. It will be a very small room built from insulated space panel. I will have 5 S7's powered by the Bitmain PSU's. My problem is though, that the cooling capacity of my A/C is 6KW and my miners will be drawing about 6KW.

Do I need to have more than 6KW cooling for my setup?

Thanks
legendary
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I'll be ordering an S7 shortly. Would appreciate a coupon if someone has one. Can pay for it if needed.

bitmain ID= Prelude
full member
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Can someone tell me if Bitmain Tech is reliable ... will i receive my shipment
We are worried to order because of the payment methods ...

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks !
they have a really good record of shipping gear that you paid for.

Phillip, is telling you right.  Look at his stats on his reputation.
Bitmain, is the best in the business and fulfilling orders and backing up their warranty.  You're in good hands!!!

Signed.
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It is all relative to btc price. If you start your investment with $$, then you would not mind 20% diff increase as long as the price increased 30-300% in the same time period, right?
What we have, on the other hand, is stable (last 7 mo) or declining (last 20 mo) btc price, while difficulty is still rising.
We have a distorted market because market participants don't have equal free excess to mining equpment as many manufactureres don't even make such equipment available at any price.

In other words, the stakes are against home miners, this is clear.

Not necessarily. 

If you buy a miner for 2 bitcoins when bitcoin is at $200 your total cost is $400.  The difficulty increases until it is no longer profitable to mine. You end up mining 1.5 bitcoin but the price is now $400.  You say, hey I now have $600 when I started with $400, so I made money.  But if you look at the return of bitcoins, you just lost money because you started with 2 and now have 1.5.

On the flip side, if price is stagnant or decreasing slightly, and as a result difficulty remains stagnant or even decreases some, that miner may run profitably for a long while, and you may end up with 4 bitcoins at $150 by the time the miner isn't profitable. In this case you've essentially purchased 4 bitcoins for $100 each and you started with $400 and ended with $600. But if you had bought 2 bitcoins instead you'd  have spent $400 and ended with $300.

Obviously there's other variables at play, but mining could be a way to protect against a drop in price at the expense of some upside if the price increases. 
legendary
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Well, I ordered 9 x S7's.  Wish I could have ordered 10.  I might still order another in a few days.  Hard to say...  I feel like a young boy counting down the days to Christmas again.   Cheesy

must...have...S7...
mining bitcoin-one of more pleasant addictions
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
Well, I ordered 9 x S7's.  Wish I could have ordered 10.  I might still order another in a few days.  Hard to say...  I feel like a young boy counting down the days to Christmas again.   Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
Can someone tell me if Bitmain Tech is reliable ... will i receive my shipment
We are worried to order because of the payment methods ...

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks !
they have a really good record of shipping gear that you paid for.

Phillip, is telling you right.  Look at his stats on his reputation.
Bitmain, is the best in the business and fulfilling orders and backing up their warranty.  You're in good hands!!!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
Good rigs,but i am in need of s5+ as i don't have costly electricity,i prefer s5+ with more Th and less price.

S5+ will be few and far between to find anywhere other than China.  Those who were able to get them will probably hold on to them for a while.
legendary
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Can someone tell me if Bitmain Tech is reliable ... will i receive my shipment
We are worried to order because of the payment methods ...

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks !
they have a really good record of shipping gear that you paid for.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
Love the colored power cables.

LOL   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I love them myself.  Makes it easier to identify easier as well if I need to.

My thoughts exactly.  I'm going to have to get me some sets.  Pain to trace a spaghetti monster of black cables.

Thumbs up!!!
legendary
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I actually think the other companies will hit the network hard with a lot of hash at less than 0.12 per GH/s to push out a lot of miners.  It will be rough in the beginning for them but they will ultimately push everyone out.  The chances of them doing this during the winter is not as good as this coming spring.  So, if people are going to continue mining, this winter may be their final opportunity to do it at this low of difficulty.  I can see 90+ billion in difficulty quite easily by spring time with the new rigs about to hit the network.  

Oh how the the times have changed. 90+ billion difficulty is only a 90% increase and this is in more than 6 months. We used to have 100% increases every month back in the good days Smiley

I agree.  In the fall of 2013, the difficulty was increasing 35% each time.  And so was the price so it was all good around.  Sadly, those days are long gone.

Agreed, those days are gone.  If one compares the difficulty to what we had a year ago, one will see it has increased by 100% (doubled).  That is decreasing.  By December, we may see it's only 40% to 70% if the price of bitcoin remains between $225 and $300.
legendary
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Love the colored power cables.

LOL   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I love them myself.  Makes it easier to identify easier as well if I need to.

My thoughts exactly.  I'm going to have to get me some sets.  Pain to trace a spaghetti monster of black cables.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
Love the colored power cables.

LOL   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I love them myself.  Makes it easier to identify easier as well if I need to.
sr. member
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Can someone tell me if Bitmain Tech is reliable ... will i receive my shipment
We are worried to order because of the payment methods ...

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks !

It is very reliable. just make sure you use the correct website https://www.bitmaintech.com/
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