AntMiner S9 rampant speculation thread, have to be quick though - page 2.

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Quote from: Efficiency V on May 30, 2016, 12:58:21 AM

All these new S7 Batchs for sale... makes me wonder if they are just trying to sell off their used S7 machines that they were mining with as they replace their own farms with the the new S9 miners. "refurb" the used S7, clean them up, maybe make a few slight cost effective modifications here and there .. and sell it as a "new batch" just to get rid of the S7 they were mining with?

I mean, what has really changed in these last two batches? went back two fans? anything else?

there are 6000 units of used/ refurb S7 -single fan on sales @ their CN site for 0.833 BTC
https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160519101458311rI3i5GoH067A

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 29, 2016, 10:24:42 PM

I am a little guy but the solar array does give me cheap power.

I wont hijack this thread but i'm very interested on specs you re using for your solar array as i'm starting to seriously ponder about it. Is there any topic you can point me @ or willingly to share your experience?
~RR

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All these new S7 Batchs for sale... makes me wonder if they are just trying to sell off their used S7 machines that they were mining with as they replace their own farms with the the new S9 miners. "refurb" the used S7, clean them up, maybe make a few slight cost effective modifications here and there .. and sell it as a "new batch" just to get rid of the S7 they were mining with?

I mean, what has really changed in these last two batches? went back two fans? anything else?

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Quote from: edonkey on May 29, 2016, 10:16:33 PM

Quote from: adaseb on May 29, 2016, 07:03:12 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on May 29, 2016, 10:21:29 AM

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

Yup. Bitmain is consistent where it comes to profit...

I have a very bad feeling about the S9. Based on recent releases, it will certainly be overpriced. And as the dominant force in mining hardware, everyone and his mother is going to buy S9s so the difficulty is going to skyrocket. It will be the S7 all over again, only worse because of the halving.

With the overpriced S7 the only saving grace was that BTC doubled in price. Assuming a similarly overpriced S9 that also creams the difficulty like crazy, then this time BTC will have to quadruple due to the halving just to keep up.

Yes, Bitcoin has been going up a lot recently and that's good. But if your mining profit is absolutely dependent on the price going up dramatically, then why buy overpriced hardware and fund Bitmain's further dominance?

It's a bummer, but unless things go differently this time I'm probably out of the Bitcoin mining game. I'll just keep what I've been doing, namely buying BTC over time (using Bitwage because I'm lazy) and hanging on to old Scrypt ASICs just to keep my hand in.

Not that my behavior matters. For every one of me there are plenty of others who are desperate to own magic money making machines, against all odds or sense.

It is not what it used to be. The margins were better for,the little guy.

I am a little guy but the solar array does give me cheap power.

Just not as much as I want.

Yeah I see,one,or,two,s-9s in the,future of the array. But I may not rush to,buy,them.

Not much,fun,to,be,a miner,of btc.

ETH coin may keep things going for,a while I wonder if it will keep going for a few months or for a year or more.

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Quote from: adaseb on May 29, 2016, 07:03:12 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on May 29, 2016, 10:21:29 AM

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

Yup. Bitmain is consistent where it comes to profit...

I have a very bad feeling about the S9. Based on recent releases, it will certainly be overpriced. And as the dominant force in mining hardware, everyone and his mother is going to buy S9s so the difficulty is going to skyrocket. It will be the S7 all over again, only worse because of the halving.

With the overpriced S7 the only saving grace was that BTC doubled in price. Assuming a similarly overpriced S9 that also creams the difficulty like crazy, then this time BTC will have to quadruple due to the halving just to keep up.

Yes, Bitcoin has been going up a lot recently and that's good. But if your mining profit is absolutely dependent on the price going up dramatically, then why buy overpriced hardware and fund Bitmain's further dominance?

It's a bummer, but unless things go differently this time I'm probably out of the Bitcoin mining game. I'll just keep what I've been doing, namely buying BTC over time (using Bitwage because I'm lazy) and hanging on to old Scrypt ASICs just to keep my hand in.

Not that my behavior matters. For every one of me there are plenty of others who are desperate to own magic money making machines, against all odds or sense.

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Quote from: Sierra8561 on May 29, 2016, 10:21:29 AM

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

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Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

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Quote from: adaseb on May 28, 2016, 06:11:56 PM

According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

::)Hopefully you don't believe everything you read in the trollbox

Just kidding

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Quote from: adaseb on May 28, 2016, 06:11:56 PM

According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

Then the Chinese site of bitmaintech should have a link

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According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

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Quote from: alh on May 28, 2016, 02:08:13 AM

Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!

A-la hashlet? Don't start giving them those terrible ideas.... yeez Cheesy

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Quote from: RadekG on May 26, 2016, 06:00:57 AM

1) No way to cool down 1350W with 1 fan securely. Bitmain already reverted back to 2 fan system.

A GOOD fan and a GOOD heatsink setup, it certainly IS possible.
A dual-fan push-pull design does NOT increase airflow much, unless the flow path is VERY restrictive.

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Quote from: alh on May 28, 2016, 02:08:13 AM

Besides the R1 and "U series (i.e. USB centric)" miners, has Bitmain ever produced a miner that was 1Kg? I agree that seems really light. I'll bet it's just a "place holder" for now.

Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!

In this case it's casted of solid piece of stainless steel

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Besides the R1 and "U series (i.e. USB centric)" miners, has Bitmain ever produced a miner that was 1Kg? I agree that seems really light. I'll bet it's just a "place holder" for now.

Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: alh on May 27, 2016, 03:57:40 PM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on May 27, 2016, 03:33:59 PM

have you checked this mates? https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160525104147645CqK8jJc50678

Yes, while a 14TH speed is interesting, without a date, price, or power consumption figure it an utterly useless number. There's nothing that says the 14TH figure won't change before it becomes "real". Whoever started to fill in that web page probably could have had some fun by putting in a 25TH figure and really get a buzz going.....

Bitmainers aren't known for their sense of humor so if this is a prank it's quite surprising. Gotta love the weight too, 1kg, shipping costs will be awesome Grin

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on May 27, 2016, 03:33:59 PM

have you checked this mates? https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160525104147645CqK8jJc50678

Yes, while a 14TH speed is interesting, without a date, price, or power consumption figure it an utterly useless number. There's nothing that says the 14TH figure won't change before it becomes "real". Whoever started to fill in that web page probably could have had some fun by putting in a 25TH figure and really get a buzz going.....

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Its been linked before but it gives zero information other than a random hash speed listed. I would take it with a grain of salt until more info comes out.

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have you checked this mates? https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160525104147645CqK8jJc50678

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So the big thing from Bitmain today is the crap ass 2.7t s7 with the cheap PSU. What a let down.

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Quote from: dsattler on May 27, 2016, 07:23:57 AM

From bitmain's facebook page:

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Hello everyone!
Please note that any online or offline resellers/distributors/shops like this one claiming to sell the Antminer S9 is a scam. The technical specifications or the release date of the Antminer S9 are still not certain yet.
We will inform you all via our official website or social media accounts as soon as we launch it.
Cheers and happy mining,
The Bitmain Team

This relates directly to the offer on OpenBazaar I've posted a few days ago! Sad

Bitmain already confirmed that final speed is not yet determined, but S9 is under testing now, so I think they are just binning batches and considering setting price/speed/efficiency. I belive S9 will be within two weeks. Just note that Hashnest lowered S7 price to the same level as public sale price. This might be sign of "stock clearence".

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