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Topic: AntMiner S9 rampant speculation thread, have to be quick though - page 3. (Read 12633 times)

hero member
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there won't be anything new today.
enjoy your s7

Scheisse!

Ok - next Friday then Smiley
legendary
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From bitmain's facebook page:

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Hello everyone!
Please note that any online or offline resellers/distributors/shops like this one claiming to sell the Antminer S9 is a scam. The technical specifications or the release date of the Antminer S9 are still not certain yet.
We will inform you all via our official website or social media accounts as soon as we launch it.
Cheers and happy mining,
The Bitmain Team

This relates directly to the offer on OpenBazaar I've posted a few days ago!  Sad
legendary
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there won't be anything new today.
enjoy your s7
legendary
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It's now a little after 8 AM Friday in China. No changes on the Bitmain site yet.
hero member
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Those who bet Friday as the release date, will know very soon..

Yes we will Smiley


sr. member
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Those who bet Friday as the release date, will know very soon..
hero member
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Have you seen this:

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Description   BITMAIN ANTMINER S9 Batch 1 with 9.63th/s
Shipping from 26th May 2016


S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396
6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M
Notes:
1.   Power consumption figures will vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2.   PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 3 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input on each hashing board and all 3 are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board!
Bitmain recommends the APW3-12-1600-B2 power supply for use with the S9. One power supply support one S9.
3. Separate power supply to control board: there is one additional 6pin PCI-e connector on the IO board which must be connected to the PSU to get power. Be sure to power on the miner after ALL the 10 PCIE connectors connected to power supply. When using differnt PSU and you want to power off the miner, be sure to disconnect all the PSU from power.

Just copied S7 later batches description.

1) No way to cool down 1350W with 1 fan securely. Bitmain already reverted back to 2 fan system.
2) S7 design is based on 3 hash boards with 3 stricgs of chips each, so number of chips is always dividable by number 9.
3) It is possible to use 2 strip design, but it needs completely different heatsink configuration to cool down 1350W from less chips. Supply voltage would be 0.55V per chip, which I belive is not possible at 800MHz with BM design. Let us see if yes.

My guess is 135 chips (same design as later batches of S7) and increased chip speed with the same power, so my guess is 40% speed increase which corresponds to about 6.6 to 7THs per S9 and efficiency about 0.16-0.18 +10%.


legendary
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https://bpip.org
I killed the link ,  but if it really 9.6 th at 1350 watt  and it  is 4.8 btc  it is not worth it.

There's no way for us to know if this is a leak of real information, or if it's just straight up fiction.

Even if the specs are accurate, the price could be way off. All the mining hardware on OB that I've looked at is overpriced.

Either way it would be crazy to buy an unannounced piece of hardware from some anonymous person on OB.

I would trust the LinkedIn page more and "BM1386" makes more sense than "BM1396", so at least that part is fiction I think.
legendary
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I killed the link ,  but if it really 9.6 th at 1350 watt  and it  is 4.8 btc  it is not worth it.

There's no way for us to know if this is a leak of real information, or if it's just straight up fiction.

Even if the specs are accurate, the price could be way off. All the mining hardware on OB that I've looked at is overpriced.

Either way it would be crazy to buy an unannounced piece of hardware from some anonymous person on OB.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
Nothing breathtaking, but I found this:

https://cn.linkedin.com/in/%E5%B8%85-%E6%9D%A8-a91b8091/en
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Eason Yang
IC Design Engineer
Bitmain
July 2014 – Present

Project Summary:
BM1384/BM1385/BM1386

• Owned block/top netlist to gds design/signoff (include P&R, timing, DRC/LVS) on TSMC 28/16nm process;
• Owned FlipChip design and cooperate with packaging vendor on package design;
• Owned fullchip dynamic/static power analysis.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Have you seen this:

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Description   BITMAIN ANTMINER S9 Batch 1 with 9.63th/s
Shipping from 26th May 2016


S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396
6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M
Notes:
1.   Power consumption figures will vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2.   PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 3 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input on each hashing board and all 3 are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board!
Bitmain recommends the APW3-12-1600-B2 power supply for use with the S9. One power supply support one S9.
3. Separate power supply to control board: there is one additional 6pin PCI-e connector on the IO board which must be connected to the PSU to get power. Be sure to power on the miner after ALL the 10 PCIE connectors connected to power supply. When using differnt PSU and you want to power off the miner, be sure to disconnect all the PSU from power.




I killed the link ,  but if it really 9.6 th at 1350 watt  and it  is 4.8 btc  it is not worth it.

legendary
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https://bpip.org
Price is 4.8 BTC on OpenBazaar!

This (or something like this) was posted here earlier and was considered a scam. Don't trust any such "sales" and buy only from Bitmain when Bitmain officially announces it.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Have you seen this:

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Description   BITMAIN ANTMINER S9 Batch 1 with 9.63th/s
Shipping from 26th May 2016


S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396
6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M
Notes:
1.   Power consumption figures will vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2.   PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 3 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input on each hashing board and all 3 are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board!
Bitmain recommends the APW3-12-1600-B2 power supply for use with the S9. One power supply support one S9.
3. Separate power supply to control board: there is one additional 6pin PCI-e connector on the IO board which must be connected to the PSU to get power. Be sure to power on the miner after ALL the 10 PCIE connectors connected to power supply. When using differnt PSU and you want to power off the miner, be sure to disconnect all the PSU from power.
hero member
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I am with you on this prediction!  FRIDAY!

Deal then!
legendary
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Judging by a huge burst in network speed, they are deploying S9 right now for "testing" and will announce pretty soon and release in 1-4 weeks, in my opinion.

I predict that S9 will be released this Friday (Peking time - morning)

I am with you on this prediction!  FRIDAY!

This german bitcoin blogging site has some coverage: https://bitcoinblog.de/2016/05/24/neue-miner-ausgeliefert-hashrate-explodiert/
legendary
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Mine for a Bit
Judging by a huge burst in network speed, they are deploying S9 right now for "testing" and will announce pretty soon and release in 1-4 weeks, in my opinion.

I predict that S9 will be released this Friday (Peking time - morning)

I am with you on this prediction!  FRIDAY!
legendary
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They also seem to think every bitcoin data center is in China and they all run off this mythical cheap power you cannot get anywhere else in the world. Off the top of my head I can name 4-5 states in the US alone where you can get power under $0.04/kwh (No im not talking about residential rates because they dont matter.)


 Washington, in 3 counties, but Grant county you have to be an industrial-level user to get into the relevant tariffs - you can get fairly close as a home miner though, 4.something all up as I recall.

 Where are the other alleged "under 4c/KWH" locations? Are you CERTAIN you are including ALL of the relevant charges?

 For example, where I live in an Alliant Energy service area, my current base rate at my usage level is just a little over 3 cents/KWH - but once I add in the "Regional Transmission Fee" and the "Fuel Surcharge", my last bill put me a bit OVER 8c/KWH all up - though I've usually this past winter been more like 7.5ish.
legendary
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We will see with LISK if the whole "there needs to be a home minable coin"

Will LISK fail because its not POW ?

hero member
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I don't get the "there has to be a coin that can be mined at home" argument. There is absolutely no part of a successful crypto that depends on some form of mining-democracy. There are tons of coins out there, but my bet is that Bitcoin is the only one with long lasting value.

I have found in my time here that the forum regulars absolutely cannot wrap their head around the fact that mining BTC at home is in the past and they are fighting a losing battle. They think "the hardware manufacturers MUST cater to the home market and if they dont they are terrible terrible companies". The truth of it is at this point every home miner in the world could shut their machines down and there wouldnt even be a hiccup in the network.

They also seem to think every bitcoin data center is in China and they all run off this mythical cheap power you cannot get anywhere else in the world. Off the top of my head I can name 4-5 states in the US alone where you can get power under $0.04/kwh (No im not talking about residential rates because they dont matter.)
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