Topic: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? (Read 3949 times)
Not at all, am just reading about it now but I will do more research about it and see if it worth my money. We have thousands of coins and it will be very hard to know them all.
Dear FirstCoin Club member,
It is with a heavy heart and strong regret that I come back to you with a message I did not want to send.
After the best of intentions and hundreds of hours of work and effort to try to build something that would have a chance of paying back the money we all lost in the First Coin project, I have reached a very sombre conclusion.
That, despite their promises, the former owners have no interest in assisting me to make that happen.
This leaves me no choice but to gave up and inform members how we been a subject of scam.
However, in the course of my journey of trying to make sense of the events of the last several months, I have come to learn a lot more about what actually happened.
I also feel it is my duty to share this with you so you can also see what appears to be the truth behind the lies and the greed.
Total Money Taken
According to the data until 13 Feb 2018 the original founders Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy , Gabor Kisbenedek and bella kisbenedek made over $245m in sales of Firstcoin. This figure is derived from the following reports generated by the FirstCoin Club:
Total activated packages
Starter 37794
Basic 24448
Networker 25778
Business 20680
Trader 7372
Pro-Trader 3870
Pool 6153
VIP 3448.
Out of the $245m, approximately $146 million was paid back in commissions and mining rewards and overheads. Therefore the net profit made appears to be in the region of 98 million dollars.
Illegal Price Manipulation
More worryingly, it appears we have been scammed by the owners using what can only be described as ‘an invisible hand’ to continually change the satoshi-FRST This is something that is only available on a few exchanges such as LiveCoin and Yobit. They illegally manipulated the price, perpetuated a blatant Blockchain Fraud using the Firstcoin Club. Gabor Kisbenedek and his IT partner Daniel Kormendi together with Heisenberg used an ‘invisible hand’ on the public exchanges to trick you into thinking the price and value were higher than it really was.
Blockchain Fraud
If you recall, from December 2017 to Feb 2018 all withdrawals from the first coin club were blocked by the owners. The reason given for this was that they were implementing KYC and 2FA as part of industry compliance. While it is true that this technical upgrade was being done, it appears that during this time, the owners were illegally bypassing the blockchain and reselling the same coins that members believed they were holding. To explain this more, when a member bought coins from the exchange, that money was taken by the owners who then transferred the coins in a legitimate transaction. However, when the members then transferred their coins from the exchange and into the club wallets to purchase a package, the coins did not actually go into a secure ‘member wallet’ but instead went back to the owners to resell. The club software then created an entry that showed in your back-office as if the coins were there but this was simply a ledger and not reflective of the actual coins that were then sold to other members. In essence, we were left with ‘fake-coins’ that did not exist. This is another reason why the ‘circulating supply’ never changed from October and one of the reasons it appears that the coin removed from CoinMarketCap and later delisted from the LiveCoin exchange.
Missing $28m from LiveCoin
I had many meeting with Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy to solve the issue, at the beginning, he was cooperative with me but always he changed his mind after talking to his partners. It has been revealed that at the time FirstCoin was delisted from the LiveCoin, the exchange was holding approximately $28m in sales revenue. Livecoin themselves have since confirmed that $14m has been realised to the solicitors representing a group of members. Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy believed that the LDM management (present JAAG management) Mr Josip Bosnic CEO, Mr. Ghefari Dulapandan CIO, Mr. Andras Szekely CTO, Mr. Adrian Maximilian Necsoiu CMO walked away with S14m. Mr Nagy said he cannot make any firm claims however, some people have clearly become rich overnight.
Mr Nagy mentioned many time that a gentleman name Zoltan Toth is helping Gabor to make his entire move. I don’t know the truth who he was working for but I meet Mr Nagy via Mr Toth when I took over the firstcoin projects.
Uphill Battle I No Longer Think We Can Win
When I took over Firstcoin, I was 1000% sincere in my intention to use it as a platform to bring back value to us, the members. They promised me full funding and handover the paulownia plantation contract. They gave me 15BTC and part gift coin at the beginning to start building the club and the project. I spent all the fund to create the new platform and the club, I have invested a lot of my own time effort and resources over the last few months and one of the reasons I took this on with that belief, was that the owners promised me funding for the new project. At that time I also believed they had an interest in helping the members recover their loss. Fast forward a few short months later and not only have they never fulfilled their promises, but with the information I have now uncovered, it appears they were simply interested in looking for a new ‘front-person’ with which to divert the attention from themselves and use as a scapegoat. This would allow them to walk away with the $98 million they initially made.
I am aware there are several pending lawsuits against the former owners (both civil and criminal) and many people have expressed a strong desire to locate them and the former LDM.
If you wish to report the crime to INTERPOL you can visit to your own country National Central Bureau (NCB) office and report it.
For further information, see the profile page for the relevant member country.
https://www.interpol.int/Contact-INTERPOL
https://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/World
For further information, all the above-mentioned gang members are Hungarian citizen and the firstcoin project used to run under the company name of “Dynamic Global Marketing Ltd” registered address: Al Marjan island 550, Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates.
If you wish you can send your crime report to Hungary and Dubai Interpol team for further investigation, it’s a free service, you don’t have to pay for reporting the crime.
Best & Sincere Regards
Mohammed Kibria
It is with a heavy heart and strong regret that I come back to you with a message I did not want to send.
After the best of intentions and hundreds of hours of work and effort to try to build something that would have a chance of paying back the money we all lost in the First Coin project, I have reached a very sombre conclusion.
That, despite their promises, the former owners have no interest in assisting me to make that happen.
This leaves me no choice but to gave up and inform members how we been a subject of scam.
However, in the course of my journey of trying to make sense of the events of the last several months, I have come to learn a lot more about what actually happened.
I also feel it is my duty to share this with you so you can also see what appears to be the truth behind the lies and the greed.
Total Money Taken
According to the data until 13 Feb 2018 the original founders Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy , Gabor Kisbenedek and bella kisbenedek made over $245m in sales of Firstcoin. This figure is derived from the following reports generated by the FirstCoin Club:
Total activated packages
Starter 37794
Basic 24448
Networker 25778
Business 20680
Trader 7372
Pro-Trader 3870
Pool 6153
VIP 3448.
Out of the $245m, approximately $146 million was paid back in commissions and mining rewards and overheads. Therefore the net profit made appears to be in the region of 98 million dollars.
Illegal Price Manipulation
More worryingly, it appears we have been scammed by the owners using what can only be described as ‘an invisible hand’ to continually change the satoshi-FRST This is something that is only available on a few exchanges such as LiveCoin and Yobit. They illegally manipulated the price, perpetuated a blatant Blockchain Fraud using the Firstcoin Club. Gabor Kisbenedek and his IT partner Daniel Kormendi together with Heisenberg used an ‘invisible hand’ on the public exchanges to trick you into thinking the price and value were higher than it really was.
Blockchain Fraud
If you recall, from December 2017 to Feb 2018 all withdrawals from the first coin club were blocked by the owners. The reason given for this was that they were implementing KYC and 2FA as part of industry compliance. While it is true that this technical upgrade was being done, it appears that during this time, the owners were illegally bypassing the blockchain and reselling the same coins that members believed they were holding. To explain this more, when a member bought coins from the exchange, that money was taken by the owners who then transferred the coins in a legitimate transaction. However, when the members then transferred their coins from the exchange and into the club wallets to purchase a package, the coins did not actually go into a secure ‘member wallet’ but instead went back to the owners to resell. The club software then created an entry that showed in your back-office as if the coins were there but this was simply a ledger and not reflective of the actual coins that were then sold to other members. In essence, we were left with ‘fake-coins’ that did not exist. This is another reason why the ‘circulating supply’ never changed from October and one of the reasons it appears that the coin removed from CoinMarketCap and later delisted from the LiveCoin exchange.
Missing $28m from LiveCoin
I had many meeting with Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy to solve the issue, at the beginning, he was cooperative with me but always he changed his mind after talking to his partners. It has been revealed that at the time FirstCoin was delisted from the LiveCoin, the exchange was holding approximately $28m in sales revenue. Livecoin themselves have since confirmed that $14m has been realised to the solicitors representing a group of members. Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy believed that the LDM management (present JAAG management) Mr Josip Bosnic CEO, Mr. Ghefari Dulapandan CIO, Mr. Andras Szekely CTO, Mr. Adrian Maximilian Necsoiu CMO walked away with S14m. Mr Nagy said he cannot make any firm claims however, some people have clearly become rich overnight.
Mr Nagy mentioned many time that a gentleman name Zoltan Toth is helping Gabor to make his entire move. I don’t know the truth who he was working for but I meet Mr Nagy via Mr Toth when I took over the firstcoin projects.
Uphill Battle I No Longer Think We Can Win
When I took over Firstcoin, I was 1000% sincere in my intention to use it as a platform to bring back value to us, the members. They promised me full funding and handover the paulownia plantation contract. They gave me 15BTC and part gift coin at the beginning to start building the club and the project. I spent all the fund to create the new platform and the club, I have invested a lot of my own time effort and resources over the last few months and one of the reasons I took this on with that belief, was that the owners promised me funding for the new project. At that time I also believed they had an interest in helping the members recover their loss. Fast forward a few short months later and not only have they never fulfilled their promises, but with the information I have now uncovered, it appears they were simply interested in looking for a new ‘front-person’ with which to divert the attention from themselves and use as a scapegoat. This would allow them to walk away with the $98 million they initially made.
I am aware there are several pending lawsuits against the former owners (both civil and criminal) and many people have expressed a strong desire to locate them and the former LDM.
If you wish to report the crime to INTERPOL you can visit to your own country National Central Bureau (NCB) office and report it.
For further information, see the profile page for the relevant member country.
https://www.interpol.int/Contact-INTERPOL
https://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/World
For further information, all the above-mentioned gang members are Hungarian citizen and the firstcoin project used to run under the company name of “Dynamic Global Marketing Ltd” registered address: Al Marjan island 550, Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates.
If you wish you can send your crime report to Hungary and Dubai Interpol team for further investigation, it’s a free service, you don’t have to pay for reporting the crime.
Best & Sincere Regards
Mohammed Kibria
The coin value is in 900 coinmarketcap lift.
Maybe the rating of investors is also less about firstcoin.
But maybe at other times Firstcoin will rise in price as demand is high.
Maybe the rating of investors is also less about firstcoin.
But maybe at other times Firstcoin will rise in price as demand is high.
Be aware of this coin is a total scam coin!!!
You can easily realise that by observing two factors :
- Total coins 110M
- Pre-mine 109.9M
What does that mean???
That means that the developers of the project own and control the entire amount of the coins since the very beginning.
TOTAL SCAM!!!
You can easily realise that by observing two factors :
- Total coins 110M
- Pre-mine 109.9M
What does that mean???
That means that the developers of the project own and control the entire amount of the coins since the very beginning.
TOTAL SCAM!!!
Nowadays there are many projects where the dev owns all the coins at the beginning and many are not scams. So this alone is not a crucial parameter. However, here there seems to be also other indicators...
How do you Identify when it is a scam?
Ive heard about firstcoin in when i saw thier commercial that they have and event in dubai. They are promoting and discussed what is firstcoin.
FirstCoin is the first network crypto-currency project with exchange rate protection program that connects and supports startups.
FirstCoin is the first network crypto-currency project with exchange rate protection program that connects and supports startups.
I heard it for the first time. I believe the above data, because all the data on the blockchain is open and transparent, but I am neutral about whether such a coin is worth investing, and the development of a coin is going to be verified for a long time. Let us look forward to it.
Despite good prospects in the past, and also good characteristics, FirstCoin has little chance of recovery and price growth. Trust in this crypto currency fell, on LiveCoin, its trading fell significantly. I think that FirstCoin will eventually lose its entire capitalization.
Great coins because they stand alone without sticking to Ethereum, EOS or NEO networks.
But unfortunately FirstCoin lost its value after the first listing on the Exchange around 72,000 Satoshi and now its value is around 182 Satoshi.
But unfortunately FirstCoin lost its value after the first listing on the Exchange around 72,000 Satoshi and now its value is around 182 Satoshi.
I have never caught wind of this cryptographic money. Be that as it may, I can state that there are a great deal of ICOs which seem each day so we can't simply monitor the appearance procedure. Concerning reliablity and gainfulness of this ICO we will have the capacity to acknowledge in a couple of months. At that point we additionally will have the capacity to frame our perspective about this ICO.
Well I realize that Firstcoin depends on Bitcoin innovation. Because of the blockchain, you can track the making of the coin and the validness of the exchange. The system checks and validates itself. Firstcoin gives solid assurance and namelessness. It is expanding now in its cost.
personally I would check dead of it. the complete concept gazes besides suspect anticipated to the deficiency of information available. it is most assuredly accomplishable that it musculus be a scam as well.
Decent reasoning. But that it is pyramid. In the event that you burrow little deaper you'll see that rewards arent paid by pyramid. Cash is made with ecoshares, smartcontacts, and premining.
firstcoin is one of the most talked about cryptocurrencies and is officially traded on the market, check on the market (yobit and livecoin). firstcoin has also entered in coinmarketcup (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/firstcoin)
WARNING
Firstcoin ex-leaders founded the JAAG Coin: http://jaagcoin.org/#team
Szekely Andras participated other SCAM, name Kairos.
Other leaders, ex-marketing director Molnar Gergely David and Istvan Seres founded the Now Coin Game: https://nowcoingame.com/. Whiet paper: https://nowcoingame.com/NowCoin-White-Paper.pdf
Istvan Seres participated in the Corion Coin, which has fallen. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/corion/
Istvan Seres and Pereszteghi Nagy Gyorgy (Firstcoin founder) was the owner/director the COIN MARKETING LTD. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10944148/officers
Firstcoin ex-leaders founded the JAAG Coin: http://jaagcoin.org/#team
Szekely Andras participated other SCAM, name Kairos.
Other leaders, ex-marketing director Molnar Gergely David and Istvan Seres founded the Now Coin Game: https://nowcoingame.com/. Whiet paper: https://nowcoingame.com/NowCoin-White-Paper.pdf
Istvan Seres participated in the Corion Coin, which has fallen. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/corion/
Istvan Seres and Pereszteghi Nagy Gyorgy (Firstcoin founder) was the owner/director the COIN MARKETING LTD. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10944148/officers
http://prntscr.com/j1rekn
The price when I made this thread was 0.00232BTC, now it's 0.00001128BTC
In USD terms, 10$/Firstcoin to 0.07$/Firstcoin
http://prntscr.com/j1rfk6
Where are the shills now?
The price when I made this thread was 0.00232BTC, now it's 0.00001128BTC
In USD terms, 10$/Firstcoin to 0.07$/Firstcoin
http://prntscr.com/j1rfk6
Where are the shills now?
Envisioned to support startups, some concerns have been raised about the ethical nature and business model of FirstCoin. Thanks for making everyone aware of the risks involved.
I'm not familiar for this firstcoin i only heard this coin is in this forum. Maybe it is advertised in different website but i'm not aware what is this and it's used of it.
I have heard a lot of this coin in my coutry Vietnam. Personally I did not invested in its programme, but I am holding $100 worth of their coins in hope for it to x2 by the end of this year. Its growth kinda linear, observing it everyday
Prediction is that firstcoin price will grow to 20$ this month
.I am in firstcoin project and I advertise this so I know.It is prediction that they will worth until 2019 100-300$ so it is better to wait even more and then se
))))))) 100$$$$ ?In the market a lot of other crypto currency, but you wanted this one. Do you want to be the first?
I never heard this one but this is tackled with this and I think its for my own opinion.But I know it's a kind of alcoin that wanted to exist in the counmarketcap list.Although I'm not familiar with this one but I'm willing to support and give my applause as a new altcoin member.
Created 14.02.2018 12:44
Dear clients, deposit/withdrawal for FRST has been closed due to permanent hard forks. We credit clients with transactions which aren’t exist anymore, we will not continue to do it.
There is one more reason, which we forwarded to developer, since we’re not eligible to disclose sensitive information.
Source: http://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/607
Dear clients, deposit/withdrawal for FRST has been closed due to permanent hard forks. We credit clients with transactions which aren’t exist anymore, we will not continue to do it.
There is one more reason, which we forwarded to developer, since we’re not eligible to disclose sensitive information.
Source: http://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/607
Frangipani FRST end is NOW!
Where is the credibility? You left the sinking ship!
Where is the credibility? You left the sinking ship!
Jump to: