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legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank
July 01, 2012, 02:55:44 AM
Seriously, why do BFL needs your BTC for 6?+ months in advance when they got money form the secret VC?
I have a 50:50 chance to "regret" (not really) my decision but I cancelled my order for 2 SC's on time and never sent them any BTC.
I invested some of my BTC and now I am just waiting to see, how this all plays out.
If they really are going to use a lottery (random selection) to select first lucky shipments, it' makes even less sense to send the BTC right now.
Did you check, are your coins still at the same address where you sent them?

Just to test out my "theory" I entered another order today and I was given this address 14x69wLgdnwVArE8BhPm5DQ4aVGQwXkqeW  for the transfer. And as I expected, this is not a new nor is it a empty account. Regenerated the order and I got: 1Ckct1YiUZNZyJT5xm2QEWjdrYn55hy6cj
Brilliant!


step 1 - get some VCs to loan you money, use it to buy bitcoins for a cheap price.
step 2 - tell people you have a product that's not even close to finalized
step 3 - sell your bitcoins for a profit while customers buy bitcoins since it's the only way to buy the 'product'
step 4 - oversell your first production batch at least 6 months before it will be ready
step 5 - actually develop a product 
step 6 - when customers ask for specs or demand ETA, make that person happy and pretend like that's the same way everybody will be treated
step 7 - mine with all the customer units for a couple months before you start shipping. 
step 8 - fake a lottery system so that you can explain how all your buddies got units before others.  but fill a couple orders for well respected community leaders, so that you can still sell more units
step 9 - start selling the next batch of non-existent products with no intention of shipping anything
...

I am not surprised, if 75% of this is actually true Smiley
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
June 30, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
Yeah...talk about disruptive technology...lol  Most of the 21 million bitcoins would be mined in no time compared to the original estimates...
the difficulty changes every 2 weeks. So unless we could online this massive amount of hash power in that timeline, difficulty will quickly increase to keep the block generation as close to 144 per day as possible.

Wrong. Difficulty changes in blocks, not in weeks.

This is correct. Bitcoin has no concept of time and can only change based on how many blocks are produced. We could have some very quick adjustments when ASIC comes out so there are the same number of blocks produced  no matter how many terahash gets thrown at mining.

The only limit is the factor by which the difficulty can increase at one time.  4x?(citation needed)
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Wat
June 30, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Yeah...talk about disruptive technology...lol  Most of the 21 million bitcoins would be mined in no time compared to the original estimates...
the difficulty changes every 2 weeks. So unless we could online this massive amount of hash power in that timeline, difficulty will quickly increase to keep the block generation as close to 144 per day as possible.

Wrong. Difficulty changes in blocks, not in weeks.

This is correct. Bitcoin has no concept of time and can only change based on how many blocks are produced. We could have some very quick adjustments when ASIC comes out so there are the same number of blocks produced  no matter how many terahash gets thrown at mining.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
June 30, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
Yeah...talk about disruptive technology...lol  Most of the 21 million bitcoins would be mined in no time compared to the original estimates...
the difficulty changes every 2 weeks. So unless we could online this massive amount of hash power in that timeline, difficulty will quickly increase to keep the block generation as close to 144 per day as possible.

Wrong. Difficulty changes in blocks, not in weeks.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
June 30, 2012, 07:15:24 PM
This "returning your fpga Single for a refund" crap is just an excuse to fill out remaining single preorders Wink

I'm guessing they will be using old Singles and retrofitting the new processors into the SC Singles.
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
June 30, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
step 0: stop reading all this bullshit in this forum.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
June 30, 2012, 04:02:12 AM
Would you like to go on record for the target date? Delivery in October leaves you much wiggle room and we do not know when to start counting in case of failure to comply. Thanks.

They have said that they are going to be manufacturing a large batch and send those out at once to prevent one person from getting an advantage. Honestly, I hope the just produce as many as they can and start the first shipments on October 31st to make that first batch as big as possible.

That's my hope, but I still think the delivery will slip to December.

6 months sounds a lot better than 12 months though. The only question is, will the world live long enough to see the end of bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
Maybe this is what leads to the end of the world? Maybe with all those hashes the bitcoin network becomes self aware and destroys the world?



After block 211,221 ,they will be unleashed upon the masses  Shocked
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
June 30, 2012, 02:50:22 AM

step 1 - get some VCs to loan you money, use it to buy bitcoins for a cheap price.
step 2 - tell people you have a product that's not even close to finalized
step 3 - sell your bitcoins for a profit while customers buy bitcoins since it's the only way to buy the 'product'
step 4 - oversell your first production batch at least 6 months before it will be ready
step 5 - actually develop a product 
step 6 - when customers ask for specs or demand ETA, make that person happy and pretend like that's the same way everybody will be treated
step 7 - mine with all the customer units for a couple months before you start shipping. 
step 8 - fake a lottery system so that you can explain how all your buddies got units before others.  but fill a couple orders for well respected community leaders, so that you can still sell more units
step 9 - start selling the next batch of non-existent products with no intention of shipping anything
step 10 - use the money to produce a secret second batch of TH units for yourself
step 11 - ship the TH units last, and delay them as much as possible
step 12 - mine for 6 months, profit.  When it's time to ship the next units, perform a 51% attack and pretend that the government shut you down
step 13 - buy a country and change the extradition laws?
hero member
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
June 28, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
Would you like to go on record for the target date? Delivery in October leaves you much wiggle room and we do not know when to start counting in case of failure to comply. Thanks.

They have said that they are going to be manufacturing a large batch and send those out at once to prevent one person from getting an advantage. Honestly, I hope the just produce as many as they can and start the first shipments on October 31st to make that first batch as big as possible.

That's my hope, but I still think the delivery will slip to December.

6 months sounds a lot better than 12 months though. The only question is, will the world live long enough to see the end of bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
Maybe this is what leads to the end of the world? Maybe with all those hashes the bitcoin network becomes self aware and destroys the world?

You never know, the estimated Block reward reduction date is December 7th.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
June 28, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
Would you like to go on record for the target date? Delivery in October leaves you much wiggle room and we do not know when to start counting in case of failure to comply. Thanks.

They have said that they are going to be manufacturing a large batch and send those out at once to prevent one person from getting an advantage. Honestly, I hope the just produce as many as they can and start the first shipments on October 31st to make that first batch as big as possible.

That's my hope, but I still think the delivery will slip to December.

6 months sounds a lot better than 12 months though. The only question is, will the world live long enough to see the end of bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
Maybe this is what leads to the end of the world? Maybe with all those hashes the bitcoin network becomes self aware and destroys the world?
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
June 27, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
Would you like to go on record for the target date? Delivery in October leaves you much wiggle room and we do not know when to start counting in case of failure to comply. Thanks.

They have said that they are going to be manufacturing a large batch and send those out at once to prevent one person from getting an advantage. Honestly, I hope the just produce as many as they can and start the first shipments on October 31st to make that first batch as big as possible.

That's my hope, but I still think the delivery will slip to December.

6 months sounds a lot better than 12 months though. The only question is, will the world live long enough to see the end of bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
firstbits.com/1kznfw
June 27, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Would you like to go on record for the target date? Delivery in October leaves you much wiggle room and we do not know when to start counting in case of failure to comply. Thanks.

They have said that they are going to be manufacturing a large batch and send those out at once to prevent one person from getting an advantage. Honestly, I hope the just produce as many as they can and start the first shipments on October 31st to make that first batch as big as possible.

That's my hope, but I still think the delivery will slip to December.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
June 27, 2012, 11:17:35 AM
Huh, Google must have just gotten around to updating that section of street view, it used to have a big-ass bus in the way of the picture.

Coca Cola complained.....
rjk
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
1ngldh
June 27, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
Huh, Google must have just gotten around to updating that section of street view, it used to have a big-ass bus in the way of the picture.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
June 27, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Has anyone tried to contact by Skype??

Skype: butterflylabs

Find us at

Address: PO Box 413671
Kansas City, Missouri 64141-3761
United States of America
Phone: 816 226 6966
Fax: 816 226 6966
e-mail: [email protected]
Skype: butterflylabs


HEY LOOK, The butterfly labs really exist, I CAN SEE A COKE MACHINE.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=25E+East+12th+Street,+Kansas+City,+MO&hl=en&ll=39.09993,-94.582476&spn=0.001305,0.00327&sll=39.099854,-94.582433&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&hnear=25+E+12+St,+Kansas+City,+Jackson,+Missouri+64106&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.099925,-94.582361&panoid=JoykcVR0gUL2kdjYgCel3w&cbp=12,203.83,,0,1.77


you guys do not need more fear, the company actually exists. really?Huh


Yes - they never did accept my contact request, and I submitted it months ago.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
June 27, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
Has anyone tried to contact by Skype??

Skype: butterflylabs

Find us at

Address: PO Box 413671
Kansas City, Missouri 64141-3761
United States of America
Phone: 816 226 6966
Fax: 816 226 6966
e-mail: [email protected]
Skype: butterflylabs


HEY LOOK, The butterfly labs really exist, I CAN SEE A COKE MACHINE.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=25E+East+12th+Street,+Kansas+City,+MO&hl=en&ll=39.09993,-94.582476&spn=0.001305,0.00327&sll=39.099854,-94.582433&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&hnear=25+E+12+St,+Kansas+City,+Jackson,+Missouri+64106&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.099925,-94.582361&panoid=JoykcVR0gUL2kdjYgCel3w&cbp=12,203.83,,0,1.77


you guys do not need more fear, the company actually exists. really?Huh




I would all nonchalantly go in to use the vending machine, then hop into the elevator.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
June 27, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
Has anyone tried to contact by Skype??

Skype: butterflylabs

Find us at

Address: PO Box 413671
Kansas City, Missouri 64141-3761
United States of America
Phone: 816 226 6966
Fax: 816 226 6966
e-mail: [email protected]
Skype: butterflylabs


HEY LOOK, The butterfly labs really exist, I CAN SEE A COKE MACHINE.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=25E+East+12th+Street,+Kansas+City,+MO&hl=en&ll=39.09993,-94.582476&spn=0.001305,0.00327&sll=39.099854,-94.582433&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&hnear=25+E+12+St,+Kansas+City,+Jackson,+Missouri+64106&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.099925,-94.582361&panoid=JoykcVR0gUL2kdjYgCel3w&cbp=12,203.83,,0,1.77


you guys do not need more fear, the company actually exists. really?Huh


hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
June 27, 2012, 09:06:54 AM
I've placed a large order to be paid by bank wire several days ago.  Email sent by BFL states that I will be contacted with bank wire information within 1 business day.
That was 4 days ago.  Has anyone else attempted to place an order with bank wire?

They stated that they were delaying bank wire acceptance slightly to allow BTC payments first dibs.(how true that is god only knows).
They did also state however that your order will not be delayed by the time that they delay in getting you the bankwire info. Your only delay will be how long it takes your wire money to reach them once you receive the info. So, if you ordered on the 25th and your bankwire once you get the info takes 2 days, then your official order queue will be the 27th.
hero member
Activity: 956
Merit: 1001
June 27, 2012, 09:02:43 AM
I've placed a large order to be paid by bank wire several days ago.  Email sent by BFL states that I will be contacted with bank wire information within 1 business day.
That was 4 days ago.  Has anyone else attempted to place an order with bank wire?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 27, 2012, 09:02:30 AM
Thank you for answering.
I am sure the community also would like to know the following:

1) What temprature can the ASICs handle?
2) When can we expect any graphical details?

I hope BFL can answer these questions.

The range of temperature tolerance of the SC chip is extremely wide which is the nature of a dedicated ASIC as compared to a design sensitive FPGA implementation.  The final temperature depends on the thermal handling characteristics of a heatsink/fan implementation.  Overclocking (which is viable with the SC) will change these dynamics considerably.  I think the most useful answer to your question is that the end temperature in our application as designed is around 37C, but the chips support performance stability well beyond 80C.

We will release development photos as we closer approach release.

OVERCLOCKING !?!?! So the Jalapeno could become a SC-Rig when overclocked !  Grin
Oh, I hope it's like old school overclocking where you have to replace the crystal.
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