Topic: [Archive] BFL trolling museum - page 62. (Read 69394 times)

@ PuertoLibre

Of course I am interested in the timeline, who would not, especially when it comes to such amazing technology (compared to the GPU farm I had at the time).

But, when I placed my pre-orders I took a calculated risk - like any pre-order from any other new-start-up would impose - and the risk was that the company may not deliver timeously, pretty much same way they missed their delivery targets with the FPGAs.

I was hoping that I will get my SCc by end of October, then I extended my hope that I would get them by the end of November, and again before Christmas, and that was one difference I had from all these cry-babies - I was hoping and not pretending that I placed an order with BFL.

At the time I've paid (with hard-earned BTC, nonetheless), I was never let to believe that I was placing an order - it always has been a pre-order.

So I treat it as such - with cautious expectations and great deal of hope.

@fcmatt

You have not backed any kickstarter project, have you? Try it, the trill is refreshing!

@smoothie

Well, I am a customer of BFL, happily mining with their products.

I have number of pre-orders in and eagerly await those to be delivered, so I can place orders for some more mini-rigs.

I've asked some relevant questions in the past, politely, and Josh answered them all without delay, to my satisfaction.

I would not think of making myself a fool by repeating your questions though, I would not think any customer would care to do so neither.

Someone who is a customer...repost the set of questions for Inaba then.

I'm sure there are many BFL customers that would like answers to those questions.

You are so predictable, Josh. Your defensive postings all follow the same pattern:

a) First lines and lines of jabbering not related to the subject at all.
b) Second: insulting the opponent.
c) Then, once you are caught lying, you play down the issue.

So here we go: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1428325

a) Jabbering: "Tell me what all those posts ... yadda yadda yadda ..."
b) Insults: "... being too stupid to understand your ass from a hole in the ground ..."
c) Play down the issue: "... find the 3 posts that have been deleted, out of 8700... "

In fact there a way more than only 3 deleted posts. And you know that!

I never said it's only 3 posts that got deleted. I said I give you 3 examples of deleted posts. You do know the meaning of the word "example", don't you?

One is especially embarrassing for you: You share some of your superficial knowledge (hashing power of PS3 miners), a guy corrects you - and you delete his posting. Because your bloated ego can't bear being wrong.

I would not think of making myself a fool by repeating your questions though, I would not think any customer would care to do so neither.

To me it just seems like there really was no way BFL was ever going to Ship in the October/November timeframe they had been giving from the Start. Delays happen and are understandable but it seems no one at BFL has any more clue about when they'll ship then we do! This is unacceptable when they have taken nearly $10 Million of peoples Pre-order money. I've made the Choice to keep my Orders as I don't have any other good option (at this time) but Who is accountable here and what is the Real story?!? Again, if this had been a "normal" pre-order I wouldn't really have much to say except "damn, this sucks" but when you take Millions of $$$ from people for 3-6 Months you are held to a Higher Standard and NEED Full transparency...if you want Secrecy then don't ask for 100% Money up front Pre-orders.

At this point, I don't think it is unreasonable for people to be asking for some sort of compensation. We have after all given BFL Several Million Dollars to "hold" for 2 Months longer than the original agreement.

I think his point is that a company doesn't have to bend over at the request of non-customers. They don't owe them anything.

Right but it isn't like he is publishing financial statements. It is a generalized date question. How is that so detrimental to their business if they have been honest all along?

It would be extraordinarily unusual for a company to publish such information, especially at the request of internet forum posters who are most likely neither investors nor customers.

LOL Josh it is a direct question. Care to answer? It won't give you competition an edge over your business. So why can't you answer those questions above with time dates?

I choose not to speculate at this time, so I instead ask your what your criteria might be.

Do you wish to answer this?

Are we liars?

Lets try a different kind of discussion. I have taken into account that you have stated you don't want to disclose special secrets to your competitors. Rather than engage it retorts I will make up a basic form that I think everyone will agree does not give any competition a leg up on BFL.

You've stated the above are "lies". Lets see if that is actually true by asking the person who would know the actual answers rather than resorting to "accusations" (your word) or "speculation".

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Mark below the closest approximate date you actually received your first "production ready" ASIC chips that fully functioned as intended (within specifications) when fully assembled in it's PCB. (A working prototype is not acceptable. 40Gh/s working units are acceptable.)

Dates:
6/30/2012
7/15/2012
7/30/2012
8/15/2012
8/30/2012
9/15/2012
9/30/2012
10/15/2012
10/30/2012
11/15/2012
11/30/2012
12/15/2012
12/30/2012

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Question:
On what date was the first Bullet Run to occur?

Dates:
6/30/2012
7/15/2012
7/30/2012
8/15/2012
8/30/2012
9/15/2012
9/30/2012
10/15/2012
10/30/2012
11/15/2012
11/30/2012
12/15/2012
12/30/2012

Question:
On what date did you receive the results of the first bullet run?

Dates:
6/30/2012
7/15/2012
7/30/2012
8/15/2012
8/30/2012
9/15/2012
9/30/2012
10/15/2012
10/30/2012
11/15/2012
11/30/2012
12/15/2012
12/30/2012

I am in now way involved with BFL asics nor have I invested in them, but I really, really, like this question.

Yes. It does.