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legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
December 13, 2012, 08:11:45 PM
I thought that Bitcoin payments for BFL products went through Bit-Pay and that BFL received the payments in USD - which would mean they couldn't refund "your" Bitcoins because they never received your payment in BTC in the first place.

This, it was tied to the US dollar.

hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
December 13, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Wait...did you get refunded the 8,000 USD equivalent in Bitcoins or did they "literally" give you back the same coins you paid with at the time?

If it is the latter, then you sir have just [possibly] opened Pandoras box.

I thought that Bitcoin payments for BFL products went through Bit-Pay and that BFL received the payments in USD - which would mean they couldn't refund "your" Bitcoins because they never received your payment in BTC in the first place.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 13, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
For anyone that's interested, a refund from BFL took exactly one week.

They may not be able to deliver a product on time or give proper customer service, but at least their refunds work OK.
Whoa, 1 week. I thought they said it would be "prompt"?

May I ask by which method they refunded you? (WireTransfer? Swift? Paypal Refund? Paypal Send Money? BTC?)

The reason I ask, is because I thought there were limits to how much money you could refund in such a short period of time without it looking incredibly suspicious. Especially for Paypal.

Yeah, it seems they are about 4-5 business days behind on answering their emails.

I paid and received my refund in bitcoins, so that wasn't an issue for me.
Wait...did you get refunded the 8,000 USD equivalent in Bitcoins or did they "literally" give you back the same coins you paid with at the time?

If it is the latter, then you sir have just [possibly] opened Pandoras box.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
December 13, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
I did. But for those they actually pay ...

... or not. This are the ones PuertoLibre was referring to:

BFL should pay Theymos the ad rent they owe.

That I don't know anything about. I don't monitor theymos' cashflow.



Maybe I should?
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
December 13, 2012, 06:12:58 PM
For anyone that's interested, a refund from BFL took exactly one week.

They may not be able to deliver a product on time or give proper customer service, but at least their refunds work OK.
Whoa, 1 week. I thought they said it would be "prompt"?

May I ask by which method they refunded you? (WireTransfer? Swift? Paypal Refund? Paypal Send Money? BTC?)

The reason I ask, is because I thought there were limits to how much money you could refund in such a short period of time without it looking incredibly suspicious. Especially for Paypal.

Yeah, it seems they are about 4-5 business days behind on answering their emails.

I paid and received my refund in bitcoins, so that wasn't an issue for me.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 13, 2012, 05:52:27 PM
For anyone that's interested, a refund from BFL took exactly one week.

They may not be able to deliver a product on time or give proper customer service, but at least their refunds work OK.
Whoa, 1 week. I thought they said it would be "prompt"?

May I ask by which method they refunded you? (WireTransfer? Swift? Paypal Refund? Paypal Send Money? BTC?)

The reason I ask, is because I thought there were limits to how much money you could refund in such a short period of time without it looking incredibly suspicious. Especially for Paypal.

legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
December 13, 2012, 04:53:49 PM
For anyone that's interested, a refund from BFL took exactly one week.

They may not be able to deliver a product on time or give proper customer service, but at least their refunds work OK.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
December 13, 2012, 04:33:32 PM


Jebus on a popsicle stick!   Inaba, the FUD hierophant extraordinaire, always blesses us with these lovely comments.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-18.html#post8108
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Looks like the Avalon delays are just getting started. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...668#msg1397668) ... I'm not surprised of course. I think we're going to see a lot more delays once they actually get the chips and realize the magnitude of their error(s). Maybe they can find away around it, but I'm having trouble envisioning how they can easily and quickly fix the problem they are going to be facing, which forced us to delay as well.


First of all, the FUD is imminent with 'Avalon delays are just getting started.'  This is really starting to get predictable.


And, by Inaba's own admission above in bold, BFL screwed the pooch making 'error(s)', which required 'clock buffers' as the latest propaganda would have us believe.  The official line from BFL is that 'clock buffers' are an enhancement.  But as we can see Inaba is equating what he foresees as show stopping 'error(s)' on the Avalon front as the exact same problem BFL had and is the cause of the current BFL delay.


I'm tired of the propaganda.  Credibility gets shredded when CEO's show up to spin last minute remediation as enhancements all the while it makes little sense and then the COO tripping up and making a statement like this.

Inaba FUD'ed himself up.





hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
December 13, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
I did. But for those they actually pay ...

... or not. This are the ones PuertoLibre was referring to:

BFL should pay Theymos the ad rent they owe.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
December 13, 2012, 04:11:27 PM
Signatures. BFL "buys" signature space ...
... plus ad space here on the forum too.

Never noticed something like this here?





I did. But for those they actually pay instead of sending out an army of Cricetinae Gluteus.
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
December 13, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
Signatures. BFL "buys" signature space ...
... plus ad space here on the forum too.

Never noticed something like this here?



hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
December 13, 2012, 02:18:27 PM
Josh has confirmed that the new date is for the delivery of the chips, not the shipping of units. 

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For the chip delivery, but I will be walking the chips through the rest of the process, so ~1 week for that.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-18.html#post8108
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
December 13, 2012, 11:39:34 AM
BFL should pay Theymos the ad rent they owe.

Wat nao?

They "bought" forum ad slots and didn't pay?

Why would forum ads not be sold on a prepaid basis only?

Signatures. BFL "buys" signature space by holding a sweepstakes for BFL products on their own forum, where they require players to have a BFL ad in their signature on BTCTalk and to keep up an active presence on BTCTalk. In essence: they have created an army of unpaid shills.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
December 13, 2012, 11:29:27 AM
BFL should pay Theymos the ad rent they owe.

Wat nao?

They "bought" forum ad slots and didn't pay?

Why would forum ads not be sold on a prepaid basis only?
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
December 13, 2012, 09:37:47 AM
"USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD FOR ALL BFL TOPICS"

Great, now we'll have a 1000 page thread. What's the point of using forum software. We could do it with a mailing list.
The sad part is most people stopped reading at "USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD". I can almost guarantee you that half the stuff posted in here will not be about BFL, and the other half will be so biased one way or the other it'll be impossible to discern any new information. I"ll just stick with browsing HERE for any new threads/information.
Right browse there where BFL can censor all information posted. Nice alternative and neutral location to get real info.
Yes you're right. THIS is a much better source of information. You have a better alternative?

Hey, at least one of them linked THIS.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
December 13, 2012, 09:07:36 AM
"USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD FOR ALL BFL TOPICS"

Great, now we'll have a 1000 page thread. What's the point of using forum software. We could do it with a mailing list.
The sad part is most people stopped reading at "USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD". I can almost guarantee you that half the stuff posted in here will not be about BFL, and the other half will be so biased one way or the other it'll be impossible to discern any new information. I"ll just stick with browsing HERE for any new threads/information.
Right browse there where BFL can censor all information posted. Nice alternative and neutral location to get real info.
Yes you're right. THIS is a much better source of information. You have a better alternative?
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1002
December 13, 2012, 04:00:32 AM
Oh lord, now I have to dig through a centralized BFL thread for updates? Hurray...

Random BFL related fact

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BFL Fab is not located in China
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-13.html#post7983

Bury it my pretties. Bury it so deep no one will ever see it again.
May be after hollydays, BFL will be located in some non-extradition south-american country...
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 12, 2012, 08:00:49 PM
"USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD FOR ALL BFL TOPICS"

Great, now we'll have a 1000 page thread. What's the point of using forum software. We could do it with a mailing list.

LOL my guess is the mod who put up that post has an order with BFL and is tired of hearing the truth.  Cheesy
Nah, he just [probably] disowned BFL as a legitimate vendor. Sent all the redundant threads into limbo, where even BFL cannot find them.

BFL should pay Theymos the ad rent they owe.

Now ASICMINER is our new attention. BFL Who?
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
December 12, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
Oh lord, now I have to dig through a centralized BFL thread for updates? Hurray...

Random BFL related fact

Quote
BFL Fab is not located in China
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-13.html#post7983

Bury it my pretties. Bury it so deep no one will ever see it again.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
December 12, 2012, 06:06:24 PM
"USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD FOR ALL BFL TOPICS"

Great, now we'll have a 1000 page thread. What's the point of using forum software. We could do it with a mailing list.

The sad part is most people stopped reading at "USE THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD". I can almost guarantee you that half the stuff posted in here will not be about BFL, and the other half will be so biased one way or the other it'll be impossible to discern any new information. I"ll just stick with browsing HERE for any new threads/information.

Right browse there where BFL can censor all information posted. Nice alternative and neutral location to get real info.
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