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legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
October 01, 2012, 02:32:36 PM
Only 10 more days for this bet if you believe BFL will deliver/not deliver by Nov 7th!
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=676

if i read that correctly bfl only has to ship one unit before Nov 7th for the people betting "yes" to win?
That is correct.  Most people so far seem to think that will not happen.

EDIT:  To be clear, it has to be delivered (not just shipped) on the 7th, and it has to be a unit that someone actually ordered (i.e., an end customer, not just a demo unit sent to a dev).
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
October 01, 2012, 02:31:20 PM
Only 10 more days for this bet if you believe BFL will deliver/not deliver by Nov 7th!
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=676

if i read that correctly bfl only has to ship one unit before Nov 7th for the people betting "yes" to win?
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
October 01, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
Only 10 more days for this bet if you believe BFL will deliver/not deliver by Nov 7th!
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=676
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
October 01, 2012, 12:13:31 AM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

If it's so absurd, why do you keep doing it?

Because it is absurd.

Doing something absurd just because it's absurd isn't anything new: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dada
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 30, 2012, 09:20:49 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

If it's so absurd, why do you keep doing it?
vip
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
AKA: gigavps
September 30, 2012, 11:24:53 AM
I've made a new thread to discuss asic power estimates.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asic-power-consumption-estimates-114363
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
September 30, 2012, 11:24:09 AM

That's two extra Th's for Teraminers.

I do wonder though, are any of BFL's competition going to be able to meet or beat their power specs? 1Gh/watt is huge.

They should not be to far off. BFL has their trade up options that they seem to promise for 2nd nebula ASICs
bASIC as the 1year warranty plus works with open source software options and bit streams.
Avalon has 1 year and may diliver without the need for an external device to start mining.

I doubt there will be much of a trade up value for any ASIC device considering how specialized they are.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1047
September 30, 2012, 10:56:41 AM

That's two extra Th's for Teraminers.

I do wonder though, are any of BFL's competition going to be able to meet or beat their power specs? 1Gh/watt is huge.

They should not be to far off. BFL has their trade up options that they seem to promise for 2nd generation nebula ASICs
bASIC as the 1year warranty plus works with open source software options and bit streams.
Avalon has 1 year and may diliver without the need for an external device to start mining.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
Hello!
September 30, 2012, 10:53:23 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmm
vip
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
AKA: gigavps
September 30, 2012, 10:37:21 AM

That's two extra Th's for Teraminers.

I do wonder though, are any of BFL's competition going to be able to meet or beat their power specs? 1Gh/watt is huge.
full member
Activity: 246
Merit: 100
September 30, 2012, 09:13:34 AM
i do like what I am reading,  This mins BFLL is already doing testing on thier equipment which means production time is not far away. maybe first of november they can pump out the first 5k orders. Smiley or it would be nice anyways.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
September 30, 2012, 09:06:13 AM
You'll have to watch out with the Jalapenos. You'd probably be ok with most modern MBs directly into the board, but even powered hubs will be touch and go. Some can handle 1000mA like the ones designed for iPads, but I don't know of many that could support 1A on all ports. Perhaps BFL will offer them.
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 500
September 30, 2012, 08:56:43 AM
W=VI
I see, and I is 500mA fixed max, whatever the V is.....
vip
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
AKA: gigavps
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
September 30, 2012, 05:39:13 AM
W=VI
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 500
September 30, 2012, 05:25:52 AM
Ok,so the jally is going to use 4.5 watts,this is what I found out about USB 2.0,tell me if I'm correct:

Besides a data link, USB provides 5 +/- 0.25 volts to power an otherwise unpowered device or charge a battery in a self powered device.
A USB controller or hub is required to power one unit load (100 mA, a low power load). It can optionally power up to 5 unit loads (500 mA, a high power load).
The spec is silent about intermediate loads, so I assume that the sources deal with just the two cases.
Either a load is low power (like a keyboard or a mouse) or high power (like an iPod or PDA).


500 milliamps = one half amp (1000 ma per amp).

So, .5 amps x 5 volts=2.5 watts.We'll definitely be needing those dual USB cables won't we  Roll Eyes

I know there's a thread about this somewhere,but couldn't find it,sorry  Sad

What USB hubs are good enough for this application (running multiple Jallies),I've never had a need for these,so I'm unsure of what powered hub requirements are needed.
Maybe BFL makes them run at say 2.5 volts? So there's room for a higher wattage?
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
September 30, 2012, 04:04:34 AM
Thanks CubedRoot !!

I sent an email to Gigabyte asking what the power draw on my USB ports can handle,just to be safe Cool

GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 1.0) I have found no info saying either 500ma or 1000ma in the manual or online,so far  Sad

Edit: I think I have my answer  Cool

On/Off Charge Technology
GIGABYTE On/Off Charge technology allows you to charge your iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch regardless of whether your PC is on, in standby mode or even off. A derivative of GIGABYTE's highly acclaimed 3x USB Power feature, On/Off Charge enables devices to draw more current from GIGABYTE motherboard USB ports than standard USB ports allow, so that charging from your PC can be as fast as with a charger.


Any ideas on the hubs  Huh
sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
September 30, 2012, 02:23:59 AM
Ok,so the jally is going to use 4.5 watts,this is what I found out about USB 2.0,tell me if I'm correct:

Besides a data link, USB provides 5 +/- 0.25 volts to power an otherwise unpowered device or charge a battery in a self powered device.
A USB controller or hub is required to power one unit load (100 mA, a low power load). It can optionally power up to 5 unit loads (500 mA, a high power load).
The spec is silent about intermediate loads, so I assume that the sources deal with just the two cases.
Either a load is low power (like a keyboard or a mouse) or high power (like an iPod or PDA).


500 milliamps = one half amp (1000 ma per amp).

So, .5 amps x 5 volts=2.5 watts.We'll definitely be needing those dual USB cables won't we  Roll Eyes

I know there's a thread about this somewhere,but couldn't find it,sorry  Sad

What USB hubs are good enough for this application (running multiple Jallies),I've never had a need for these,so I'm unsure of what powered hub requirements are needed.

Most USB ports that have been on stuff in the last 3 years or so will output 1000mA.  So, that will be right at 5 watts.  Its possible that the Jalepenos will just require that you use a 1000mA USB port to power it.  My laptop has its USB ports marked as being 1000mA so it will power it.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
September 30, 2012, 01:53:41 AM
Ok,so the jally is going to use 4.5 watts,this is what I found out about USB 2.0,tell me if I'm correct:

Besides a data link, USB provides 5 +/- 0.25 volts to power an otherwise unpowered device or charge a battery in a self powered device.
A USB controller or hub is required to power one unit load (100 mA, a low power load). It can optionally power up to 5 unit loads (500 mA, a high power load).
The spec is silent about intermediate loads, so I assume that the sources deal with just the two cases.
Either a load is low power (like a keyboard or a mouse) or high power (like an iPod or PDA).


500 milliamps = one half amp (1000 ma per amp).

So, .5 amps x 5 volts=2.5 watts.We'll definitely be needing those dual USB cables won't we  Roll Eyes

I know there's a thread about this somewhere,but couldn't find it,sorry  Sad

What USB hubs are good enough for this application (running multiple Jallies),I've never had a need for these,so I'm unsure of what powered hub requirements are needed.
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