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Topic: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake - page 93. (Read 395743 times)

legendary
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Info for fudders and trolls: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20700548


(I'm sorry if you've seen this before. I just posted this on Reddit and I thought I'd say it again here.)

People had been complaining about the ICO, for good reason. They were also saying the devs didn't care; that they were happy if a few whales bought as long as they got their money. Those of us that have been involved in Nxt for a while knew better.

This update is important for two reasons. The first is that it levels the playing field. It effectively gives the bot advantage to everyone. Now whether you get to buy or not mainly depends on whether your transaction is lucky enough to reach the forging node before the offering is sold out. That mostly depends on your network connectivity. Whales don't get any particular advantage any more.

Perhaps more importantly, it also shows that the devs listen to the community, they care, and they work hard to fix problems. They have been doing this for more than the 4 years that Nxt has been a running crypto-currency. They will keep on doing it into the future. They believe in crypto-currencies as a force for good in the world and they are making it happen.

The potential here is huge. Nxt has taken a bit of a beating over the last year, partly because the devs have been working on their vision for Ardor and so Nxt itself has not had many updates in that time. All that behind-the-scenes work is about to come to fruition, with Ardor now on Testnet and going to be properly launched on Livenet by the end of the year. Ardor finally solves the scalability problems that cripple all other crypto-currencies.

The problems this ICO has had are problems of success. It is over-subscribed. Whales want in because they know the devs will deliver. They also want to put their money in because they know money is needed. Nxt raised some Bitcoin for development and marketing back when it started, all those years ago, and that money ran out. The community tried to raise money other ways, but really Nxt has been running on fumes for a while now. The success of this ICO means that phase is over.

The Ardor platform will finally have the financial backing it deserves. With that, and the unmatched technology, and some of the best devs in the business, Ardor/Ignis is poised for take-off.
legendary
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@shade_wrath, please give an evidence and facts of whales, belonging to NXT team or stop fudding. You and @barrabas are the same person?
what evidence you need, already people posted so many details about ICO coins being purchased by one address during the very first day and also people having issues while trying to buy coins in next rounds. With all this it means IGNIS was never meant to be given to normal people like us in ICO.
Who barrabas ? I dont know that guy.
Sure this user bought all batch in a go. And he did this, because he learnt, researched and made some homework. But you state, that he/they are Nxt team members. Have you any evidence with your statement?
legendary
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ICO to ignis is getting out of hand . Surely hurting the potentials of Ardor. I want to contribute to the ICO with my newly purchase NXT with JLRDA tokens but somehow no instructions to do it.

Check my post just few posts above about new client release. And Q&A with this release.
hero member
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@shade_wrath, please give an evidence and facts of whales, belonging to NXT team or stop fudding. You and @barrabas are the same person?
what evidence you need, already people posted so many details about ICO coins being purchased by one address during the very first day and also people having issues while trying to buy coins in next rounds. With all this it means IGNIS was never meant to be given to normal people like us in ICO.
Who barrabas ? I dont know that guy.

I bought a JLRDA by the same way as the Whale do. I used phased transactions. And I spent about 1-2 days to learn how things works (nrs, api, tests, etc).
It's not the best ICO scheme, but no more.

It's a recent message from the Whale.
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    Hi,

    Everyone is thinking i'm using some kind of bot. I'm gonna tell you the truth.
    I'm not... for the very simple reason that I wouldn't know how to make one. I'm not a programmer and i don't know how to code.

    I work in a movie theater guys...

    The reason i'm able to be the first is because I prepared this ICO since weeks before. I learned how it worked, how transactions worked, I read wiki about the API, and learned how to use it.
    And more importantly, I tested everything. I used the testnet and tried everything multiple time. I made hundreds of transactions to test all the different possible case.
    I even made plan to be ready in case the developers tried to changes the rules at the last minute.

    That's what made me able to be the first...i invested time and work. And you didn't.

    I'm planning on buying 5 millions additional Ignis at this price level.
    But not on the next round, I have to go to work.
hero member
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GoMeat - Digitalizing Meat Stores - ICO
ICO to ignis is getting out of hand . Surely hurting the potentials of Ardor. I want to contribute to the ICO with my newly purchase NXT with JLRDA tokens but somehow no instructions to do it.
full member
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Any store can buy, sell, and accept Crypto
@shade_wrath, please give an evidence and facts of whales, belonging to NXT team or stop fudding. You and @barrabas are the same person?
what evidence you need, already people posted so many details about ICO coins being purchased by one address during the very first day and also people having issues while trying to buy coins in next rounds. With all this it means IGNIS was never meant to be given to normal people like us in ICO.
Who barrabas ? I dont know that guy.
legendary
Activity: 1162
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@shade_wrath, please give an evidence and facts of whales, belonging to NXT team or stop fudding. You and @barrabas are the same person?
full member
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Any store can buy, sell, and accept Crypto
I highlighted in first place, the whole process of using one coin and then re-issuing another coin based on same is not a good idea and highlight the greed of devs. Moreover developers keep doing the same thing multiple times, again and again. This process is not for funding the project its for cheating people and getting money from them  as they know this has been successful before and so it will be in future.

Moreover with Whales (belonging to NXT team) buying over all ICO tokens and apart from that  50% of entire project tokens Devs are keeping with themselves,  they will just dump all this IGNIS on poor traders who will be busy buying it in hope of getting rise and profit.

Damn, you guys just make my day! I think all threads need comic relief like this from time to time, just to break up the serious stuff. So, rock on idiot, and please, keep posting this funny, funny stuff!

Calling someone else Idiot doesnt make you smart. Dont worry we will see in future, what holds true. Then we decide who is Idiot  Cheesy Wink
sr. member
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AKA RJF - Member since '13
I highlighted in first place, the whole process of using one coin and then re-issuing another coin based on same is not a good idea and highlight the greed of devs. Moreover developers keep doing the same thing multiple times, again and again. This process is not for funding the project its for cheating people and getting money from them  as they know this has been successful before and so it will be in future.

Moreover with Whales (belonging to NXT team) buying over all ICO tokens and apart from that  50% of entire project tokens Devs are keeping with themselves,  they will just dump all this IGNIS on poor traders who will be busy buying it in hope of getting rise and profit.

Damn, you guys just make my day! I think all threads need comic relief like this from time to time, just to break up the serious stuff. So, rock on idiot, and please, keep posting this funny, funny stuff!
legendary
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jr. member
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using one coin and then re-issuing another coin based on same is not a good idea

I don't agree. This way long term nxt hodlers don't have to spend btc to get tokens of the successor platform (in fact they don't even have to do anything and still participate in two airdrops). Of course, they can also choose to take profit now and sell tokens to newbies like me before the ico ends. Overall the devs seem to act responsible and rewarding towards long term investors.


full member
Activity: 210
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Any store can buy, sell, and accept Crypto
I highlighted in first place, the whole process of using one coin and then re-issuing another coin based on same is not a good idea and highlight the greed of devs. Moreover developers keep doing the same thing multiple times, again and again. This process is not for funding the project its for cheating people and getting money from them  as they know this has been successful before and so it will be in future.

Moreover with Whales (belonging to NXT team) buying over all ICO tokens and apart from that  50% of entire project tokens Devs are keeping with themselves,  they will just dump all this IGNIS on poor traders who will be busy buying it in hope of getting rise and profit.
legendary
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@NewbCoins No, I don't see. Jelurida needs funding for development and they are selling to have funds. It was known from the start. That's why there is and ICO. What's wrong with this? Are you first time in crypto?
sr. member
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FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange and receive IGNIS!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.
full member
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Maybe it's Jelurida who sells their coins?

Jelurida already sell before ico. Who you think on other side trade when everyone buy NXT before the ico?

you dont see the scam?
legendary
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This mess of a situation just makes the price a little cheaper. In a few weeks/months, all will be OK and most will forget. At least for Ardor. I am not sure what will happen with NXT.
sr. member
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It was an emotional roller coaster. When I clicked on the buy button the confirmation window appeared and disappeared. The second time the transaction went through only to be rejected minutes after. Funny thing is that I was in block 127 and people in block 128 got tokens. I don't understand why but it doesn't feel good.

I completely missed the message that the whale would sit out for this round but he will probably go for the rest tomorrow.
sr. member
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This time, at least I was able to submit a buy offer. The NXT that I would have used in the buy was deducted from my balance for about 2 minutes (most likely the time until the next block was forged), but then it reappeared - so my offer didn't go through, but it seems like this time some people were able to buy small to medium chunks. It felt a bit more like I had expected it.

I know the whale did not participate (at least, that was what she announced before), but she most likely will participate early tomorrow to get the 5 million she wants. So perhaps tomorrow afternoon the next chance emerges.

How do you know that the whale is a female?

By the way, account NXT-CFLD-HWZ9-8YR4-E3BYQ used the same technique as that whale. So it's too early to celebrate.

Is there anyone here who was lucky to buy JLRDA coins from the token sale page?

yes i was able to buy by just refreshing in browser wallet

So now we can buy coins. But looks like the damage has been done. People were so excited about this ICO and now silence is all over forum boards.

And surprisingly NXT price fell right after the round. Maybe it's Jelurida who sells their coins?
newbie
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This time, at least I was able to submit a buy offer. The NXT that I would have used in the buy was deducted from my balance for about 2 minutes (most likely the time until the next block was forged), but then it reappeared - so my offer didn't go through, but it seems like this time some people were able to buy small to medium chunks. It felt a bit more like I had expected it.

I know the whale did not participate (at least, that was what she announced before), but she most likely will participate early tomorrow to get the 5 million she wants. So perhaps tomorrow afternoon the next chance emerges.

How do you know that the whale is a female?

By the way, account NXT-CFLD-HWZ9-8YR4-E3BYQ used the same technique as that whale. So it's too early to celebrate.

Is there anyone here who was lucky to buy JLRDA coins from the token sale page?

yes i was able to buy by just refreshing in browser wallet
NXT-SWVJ-VD3T-PA5G-5WC5K
sr. member
Activity: 700
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This time, at least I was able to submit a buy offer. The NXT that I would have used in the buy was deducted from my balance for about 2 minutes (most likely the time until the next block was forged), but then it reappeared - so my offer didn't go through, but it seems like this time some people were able to buy small to medium chunks. It felt a bit more like I had expected it.

I know the whale did not participate (at least, that was what she announced before), but she most likely will participate early tomorrow to get the 5 million she wants. So perhaps tomorrow afternoon the next chance emerges.

How do you know that the whale is a female?

By the way, account NXT-CFLD-HWZ9-8YR4-E3BYQ used the same technique as that whale. So it's too early to celebrate.

Is there anyone here who was lucky to buy JLRDA coins from the token sale page?
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