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Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ?

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls

Gambling site is not your private wallet so why will you be worried about having large amount in the platform? Unless you want to use same to play more games, you can withdraw to your private wallet, leaving only the amount you plan to continue gambling with. There have not been any bad record from either of the platforms, so I don't see why heavy gamblers cannot use them.

Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls

Most big gamblers prefer remaining private, that is why you will never know that some people are betting and withdrawing amounts bigger than those you mentioned. One clue you should know is that both platforms have been around for a while with no bad reputation. Rollbit is even expanding and have launched additional platform (Duel Arena) which should allay your fears.

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Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ?

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls

First and foremost, these two Casino's and sports books have been around for quite some time in this industry which gives them some reputation in the biz, but like every platform these days, players need to read and understand their terms and conditions of each platform to avoid be caught off guard and claim these platforms are trying to get your funds..
If you play by their rules, then you should have no problem with withdraws and everything else!

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fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

You are right most of the time the player is disgruntled but there are still a lot of legit claims. There are a lot of accusations against Rollbit. Here's one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996

OK, that's probably a legit claim, but it might also be an isolated issue. Because why would Rollbit, a multi-million-dollar casino, risk the reputation of their business for a mere $30,000 by not allowing the withdrawal, and telling the user that he/she has to "list his/her other accounts"? OR it's probably an honest mistake?

Sportsbooks go under all the time. Not all but most of the time they take our money with. Some of these books were big at one time. There's no need to risk your money. Here's a list of closed books and scam books. It's the players own fault if they want to take the risk of playing at sportsbooks that have many open complaints. The information is out there.

OK, then from that viewpoint, would you say that Rollbit is currently going under and the admins might be trying to steal $30,000 from that particular user? OR could there actually be something going on with said user? Because it's also very possible that Rollbit's admins have already been studying the user's every action in the casino, no?

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Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ?

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls

FJ is one of the casinos that is running for years and there is no active accusation against them so they are clear to bet higher amounts. And rollbit is comparatively new but they are also turning out to be one of the highly wagered casino but you need to go through the TOS before depositing to make sure that you are not committing any mistake that could be end up in potential loss.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 07, 2023, 09:52:54 AM

@OP it's already three days since you opened this thread, so have you gamble on there and what's your experience with them? I see most of users are saying both of them can be trusted.

Quote from: zigger33 on December 05, 2023, 03:35:34 PM

why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ? i dont have any issue with that

What people were saying about KYC because when you need to verify your account, usually it will takes time and you might find it as a problem since verification isn't automatically approved.

Both casino is trusted enough if the user didn't break the rules and regulations of the casino cause once they break the rules then they will face the consequences. Which pretty bad it will lead into banned account once they prove that you were using some cheats or any suspecios things. And also about KYC it's will expected once you are using a licensed casino cause most of them ask for KYC but it takes a few time so it's better to obey with it

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fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

You are right most of the time the player is disgruntled but there are still a lot of legit claims. There are a lot of accusations against Rollbit. Here's one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996

OK, that's probably a legit claim, but it might also be an isolated issue. Because why would Rollbit, a multi-million-dollar casino, risk the reputation of their business for a mere $30,000 by not allowing the withdrawal, and telling the user that he/she has to "list his/her other accounts"? OR it's probably an honest mistake?

Sportsbooks go under all the time. Not all but most of the time they take our money with. Some of these books were big at one time. There's no need to risk your money. Here's a list of closed books and scam books. It's the players own fault if they want to take the risk of playing at sportsbooks that have many open complaints. The information is out there.

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fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

You are right most of the time the player is disgruntled but there are still a lot of legit claims. There are a lot of accusations against Rollbit. Here's one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996

OK, that's probably a legit claim, but it might also be an isolated issue. Because why would Rollbit, a multi-million-dollar casino, risk the reputation of their business for a mere $30,000 by not allowing the withdrawal, and telling the user that he/she has to "list his/her other accounts"? OR it's probably an honest mistake?

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fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

You are right most of the time the player is disgruntled but there are still a lot of legit claims. There are a lot of accusations against Rollbit. Here's one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996

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Quote from: electronicash on December 07, 2023, 10:13:50 AM

fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

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fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

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Quote from: zigger33 on December 05, 2023, 03:35:34 PM

why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ? i dont have any issue with that

What people were saying about KYC because when you need to verify your account, usually it will takes time and you might find it as a problem since verification isn't automatically approved.

Yeah, the KYC is trouble for the ones who are high-rollers because if they win a lot of bets then surely they'll have to pas KYC in order to withdraw the money that they have won. The casinos often delay the KYC of those players who earned a lot of money and that's a fact. Most of the casinos known to delay the KYC approval and that allows them to pay the winners a little bit late and most of the players don't have patience to wait for that long and during the approval time they tend to place more bets and end up losing everything. That's why it's far better to have KYC approval before gambling with any casino.

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@OP it's already three days since you opened this thread, so have you gamble on there and what's your experience with them? I see most of users are saying both of them can be trusted.

Quote from: zigger33 on December 05, 2023, 03:35:34 PM

why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ? i dont have any issue with that

What people were saying about KYC because when you need to verify your account, usually it will takes time and you might find it as a problem since verification isn't automatically approved.

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Quote from: dothebeats on December 06, 2023, 09:41:50 AM

FortuneJack, I'd still entrust some money to them. Most of the complaints I came across are only for delays on withdrawals that are being solved when raised, together with the overall site functionality. With Rollbit, they have been bombarded with a lot of complaints recently, most of which are directly tied with scams involving their platform.

Overall though, I won't entrust a huge amount of money to any platform AT ALL under any circumstances. It's best to stay safe even if you're being just too paranoid and nothing bad will really happen. Prevention is better than cure, and that rings true even with gambling platforms.

I believe with the technology and the innovation available to us through Bitcoin, there probably should be a sort of decentralized escrow service. Would such an app be possible to build through Bitcoin Script, or build one through the use of multisig escrow? That could be very useful, especially for high-rollers. The first casino to have it might attract them. Cool

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Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

First before I comment, I will want to read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-did-not-pay-9-bitcoin-win-no-contact-to-me-scam-2489072, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-is-scam-5221371 probably those cases had been settled but I brought them to your notice because of what you said that Fortunejack have not be accused of scam. I don't really know but for believed, no casino is free from scam accusations but the ability of the casino to respond and settled the accusation cases is the matter. I am not saying that Fortunejack is a bad casino but I am trying to make you to understand that no casino is free from accusation. Rollbit is one of the best and reputable casino in the forum like wise Fortunejack.

It is true that almost all casinos have a scam accusation posted against them, but the question is, are these accusations legit? or the player who is posting the accusation is breaching the TOS? Regardless, we should look at how the casino reacted and explain their side of these accusations.

Regardless, instead of putting the wager in one casino why not scatter the bet in different casinos, this way when one casino bookmaker forbids us to withdraw the winnings, we still have others that we can possibly get our winnings. Just like not putting our eggs in one basket.

Some think about those accusation legit especially if they didn't do any research to validate those accusation posted. But most of those post has been eliminated since its has proven created by abuser or just a simply troll which want to create trouble to their businesses. That's why its important for us to go on their threads so that we can find out how the people there say something on the service provided by those casino since we can get an idea if they are good or a bad casino to choose.

But do we really need to scatter the funds we have? If we really eager to gamble then I guess its better to choose one of them but I discourage to deposit a lot of money to avoid trouble and instead use what he think a small amount to use for gambling and have fun there since with that he will never get a worry about his funds to get compromised but instead he would provably have a lot of fun playing on those casino's.

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Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ?

With all the advantages and disadvantages of both, I think FJ and Rollbit can be trusted as casinos for big bets.

Quote from: lionheart78 on December 06, 2023, 05:03:12 PM

It is true that almost all casinos have a scam accusation posted against them, but the question is, are these accusations legit? or the player who is posting the accusation is breaching the TOS? Regardless, we should look at how the casino reacted and explain their side of these accusations.

It is very wise to pay attention to every big or small incident that occurs at the casino that is experienced by each player.
Sometimes wise thinking like yours is needed before making a claim in public. Big time-tested casinos such as Rollbit and Fortunejack have many ways to solve every problem that players receive so that players can feel comfortable playing.

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Quote from: Agbe on December 06, 2023, 04:16:46 PM

Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 06, 2023, 02:31:25 AM

Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

First before I comment, I will want to read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-did-not-pay-9-bitcoin-win-no-contact-to-me-scam-2489072, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-is-scam-5221371 probably those cases had been settled but I brought them to your notice because of what you said that Fortunejack have not be accused of scam. I don't really know but for believed, no casino is free from scam accusations but the ability of the casino to respond and settled the accusation cases is the matter. I am not saying that Fortunejack is a bad casino but I am trying to make you to understand that no casino is free from accusation. Rollbit is one of the best and reputable casino in the forum like wise Fortunejack.

It is true that almost all casinos have a scam accusation posted against them, but the question is, are these accusations legit? or the player who is posting the accusation is breaching the TOS? Regardless, we should look at how the casino reacted and explain their side of these accusations.

Regardless, instead of putting the wager in one casino why not scatter the bet in different casinos, this way when one casino bookmaker forbids us to withdraw the winnings, we still have others that we can possibly get our winnings. Just like not putting our eggs in one basket.

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Quote from: Agbe on December 06, 2023, 04:16:46 PM

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Quote from: Obari on December 06, 2023, 12:35:28 AM

Those both bookies are very great and rollbit has been here over the past years as well as fortunejack and both haven’t had any unresolved issues over the time and I think you can trust them with over a $50k bet but to not always advisable to put your eggs in just one basket so I would advise that you split it.

Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

First before I comment, I will want to read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-did-not-pay-9-bitcoin-win-no-contact-to-me-scam-2489072, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-is-scam-5221371 probably those cases had been settled but I brought them to your notice because of what you said that Fortunejack have not be accused of scam. I don't really know but for believed, no casino is free from scam accusations but the ability of the casino to respond and settled the accusation cases is the matter. I am not saying that Fortunejack is a bad casino but I am trying to make you to understand that no casino is free from accusation. Rollbit is one of the best and reputable casino in the forum like wise Fortunejack.

The second case is listed as resolved. The third 2020. The fourth 2017. The first one is an oversight on my part and will be corrected. The list is for cases that opened after Jan 1, 2023. The “A” books have no open accusations. A couple others too.

Rollbit was downgraded to “D-“ since they do have a lot of accusations in 2023. Links are posted to all accusations so that people can do their own research and check the validity of the claim. Links for ANN threads are included.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 06, 2023, 02:31:25 AM

Quote from: Obari on December 06, 2023, 12:35:28 AM

Those both bookies are very great and rollbit has been here over the past years as well as fortunejack and both haven’t had any unresolved issues over the time and I think you can trust them with over a $50k bet but to not always advisable to put your eggs in just one basket so I would advise that you split it.

Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

First before I comment, I will want to read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-did-not-pay-9-bitcoin-win-no-contact-to-me-scam-2489072, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-is-scam-5221371 probably those cases had been settled but I brought them to your notice because of what you said that Fortunejack have not be accused of scam. I don't really know but for believed, no casino is free from scam accusations but the ability of the casino to respond and settled the accusation cases is the matter. I am not saying that Fortunejack is a bad casino but I am trying to make you to understand that no casino is free from accusation. Rollbit is one of the best and reputable casino in the forum like wise Fortunejack.

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With fortunejack, they've been established and been here for so long and only a few complaints were there. With rollbit, you go to the scam accusations board and you see a lot of them.

Not saying that they're poor in service or what not but there's a difference between the two. And if you're going to deposit such amounts, you should do it little by little.

Both have been here for so long and IMHO, are good to 'fine' casinos.

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Quote from: zigger33 on December 04, 2023, 06:39:24 PM

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ?

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls

I just made a little investigation about the list given by @
"Peeps Place", and all I could observe is that KYC verification is the common factor said to the linking the whole list presented by "Peeps Place", of which the only way to be able to use these casinos with no stress, is when you are willing to subscribe to all levels of KYC verification the very moment you register your account without waiting for your fund to be frozen or account locked, because inasmuch as you do not violate any of the casino rules, you are rest assured of gambling safely on these two casinos. But never forget to gamble responsibly.

There is a KYC column for each sportsbook with a KYC rating of 0 to 5. A 0 rating means no KYC and 5 is mandatory. The books with a 1 rating will not do KYC if you aren't using a VPN. This allows them to see jurisdiction as well as confirming that you only have one account.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

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