Topic: are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ? - page 3. (Read 660 times)

Both casinos are good Buddy, fortunejack is a reputable casino well known on this forum, I personally have never played with such amount of money as you mentioned, but there are many withdrawals from that casino worth up to hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not more) without issues, so trust that, this is one of those casinos you can really trust.

And for Rollbit, it's also a trusted casino, though there have been some complaints from customers about this casino here and there, but I believe they are still good, and you can safely withdraw a really huge amount of money from this casino without issues, and even if issues rise up, trust that it will be resolved amicably as long as you post about it on this forum.

I just made a little investigation about the list given by @
"Peeps Place", and all I could observe is that KYC verification is the common factor said to the linking the whole list presented by "Peeps Place", of which the only way to be able to use these casinos with no stress, is when you are willing to subscribe to all levels of KYC verification the very moment you register your account without waiting for your fund to be frozen or account locked, because inasmuch as you do not violate any of the casino rules, you are rest assured of gambling safely on these two casinos. But never forget to gamble responsibly.

fortunejack.com and rollbit.com which I know are sites with good reputations. I haven't heard from people about major and severe complaints experienced when playing at fortunejack.com and rollbit.com.

There are bound to be minor complaints regardless of the site a player plays on.
I make no guarantees, but reputable sites like fortunejack and rollbit will not cheat players even in large amounts.

It depends on how gamblers entrust the casino to hold our money, fortunately I am only a small gambler so when I really feel cheated by the casino it doesn't really stress me out because I have to deal with and report the loss of big money, I don't feel confident and confident in putting big money in. casinos because there are many cases where money is frozen and accounts are frozen for no reason, even accounts that have been verified can become unverified and have to be re-verified, which in the end will fail and be rejected.

Since I have seen many cases like that, I am not sure about playing gambling with big bets, even though I play on big sites, it still makes me hesitate to play anywhere, always looking for safety, playing gambling just to have fun, not to make a lot of money from gambling. . so I might feel it's enough to just play with smaller capital.

As long as you play honestly and correctly, there are no negative elements and suspicious things, no game manipulation, my understanding is 10k-50k is easy to make a withdrawal for a reputable casino and is known to many people here.

My experience is that my friend once played at the rollbit.com casino, once withdrew 15k, without any problems, which I certainly don't know about other people, besides I only bet small amounts, for me it's safe.

The point is: anything can happen if we play at an online casino, just a suggestion, if you are in doubt, don't back out, nothing guarantees you a loss, except: you know some of the team that works at the casino, all decisions are on your side, high-risk gambling and placing large bets has at least one person in charge who can be trusted at the online casino where we want to bet.

FortuneJack, I'd still entrust some money to them. Most of the complaints I came across are only for delays on withdrawals that are being solved when raised, together with the overall site functionality. With Rollbit, they have been bombarded with a lot of complaints recently, most of which are directly tied with scams involving their platform.

Overall though, I won't entrust a huge amount of money to any platform AT ALL under any circumstances. It's best to stay safe even if you're being just too paranoid and nothing bad will really happen. Prevention is better than cure, and that rings true even with gambling platforms.

I've read some of them before. Casinos often welcome the accusers to move the case to third party arbitrators or file a formal complaint to the license providers since they have evidence that they cannot provide publicly. If some casinos don't want to deal with the bs that comes from dealing with accusations then that's their prerogative.

a lot of people like to gamble as anonymously as possible. I for one like to gamble without doing any KYC, it's not that I have something to hide, it's just that I don't trust them enough to keep my personal information safe. I don't like people that I don't completely trust to have information about me especially if it can be avoided. also, as you probably have seen data breach seems to be happening a lot these days.

At first, that is also what I'm thinking about but I accidentally saw what @Peeps Place have wrote above about Rollbit having lots of scam accusation. I am not aware with this yet. But I guess that is because I rarely visit the scam acquisition boards of our forum.

I only visit their official announcement thread sometimes and most that I see there are positive comments. I don't know what is the truth yet but it's better to be cautious only be safe. We can start with like you said there @traderethereum of depositing only minimal amounts. It also has another advantage and that is it prevents us to be greedy and become addicted to gambling.

I think that no bookmaker can be trusted with large bets. It doesn't matter if it's a small crypto bookie or a big fiat bookmaker.
Do you really plan to bet amounts over 10K on bookmaker platform? Why are you asking for Fortunejack and Rollbit only?
There are other crypto bookies out there. I wouldn't recommend any bookie in particular, because I don't want anyone to blame me for their loss(or for their future problems with the bookmaker).
AFAIK, some bookies become suspicious when they see ridiculously large bets on certain games.
Are you really going to trust some random guy on the internet, who will say "Yeah, I was betting 10K on Fortunejack or Rollbit and I had zero problems!"? I don't trust the opinions of random strangers on the internet.

So far my existence on this platform, both casinos are very much active here and are amongst the reputable casinos that have long existed on this platform and have a running signature campaign.

OP, there is no casino here that does not require for KYC when it comes to withdrawal of big or huge amount of money. Of course it is the normal thing they do but I will advise you do not depend on just a bookie but rather split it across other bookies as well. And if your intentions are to hold such funds on casino, I will advise you not to do such because anything can happen at anytime and it would be in your best interest to keep your funds in your own personal wallet for your own safety.

Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

It's because it is the very tenant of crypto specially in the beginning, we just need addresses before, specially for withdrawal. After that it's smooth sailing, no need to give your personal information in the early days of online crypto, regardless of what amount you won or trying to withdrawal.

But when bitcoin or crypto grow in the last 5 years or so, regulators pushes every services to to follow AML/KYC policy, hence we are now required to send those information in a casino and obviously, majority doesn't want to because we still wanted to be private and anonymous.

I'll just let the community decide in this case, both have reputations here though but everyone has it's own thoughts on this case.

Those both bookies are very great and rollbit has been here over the past years as well as fortunejack and both haven’t had any unresolved issues over the time and I think you can trust them with over a $50k bet but to not always advisable to put your eggs in just one basket so I would advise that you split it.
But nevertheless I think stake is one of the biggest when it comes to staking power and I would confidently advise you to try stake because of how much trustworthiness it has proven in time past and I’ve seen bets of over $200k on their platform and that’s just a few but to mention.

I think you’re giving op a broad brand of work and one wouldn’t have to judge a casino by every scam accusation levied against them and I think most of these casinos also have similar terms and conditions and you wouldn’t have to judge them based on the T&C  because this can also change at anytime.
I think reviews from the community and forum will also help one make a decision about a particular casino.

I believe there are known people in crypto that gamble in Rollbit and Stake regularly without problems and that have also vouched for them. One of them is known for his Twitter username as "KeyboardMonkey". I believe he is just one of the few real professional traders that has truly made large profit through trading cryptocurrencies. There's also another Bitcoin whale mentioned here in BitcoinTalk that gambles in either Rollbit or Stake, called Gainzy.

For users in the forum, I've seen those newbie accounts in BlackJack.Fun's topic that are known in the site as the whales from their community chat.

All gambling sites have some scam accusations nowadays not resolved or in the past.

The best solution to understand if a specific site Is suitable to our gambling style, arise from specific ToS of the site and not only from scam accusation.
I am not referring to any specific claim, but I will sugggest anyway to read "all details..." before take any decision

I'm not worried about theft of funds because they won't do that. This will damage the trust of its members, who have made the casino their favorite casino.
But by using a lot of money, we can run the risk of losing and there is also another problem that we have to be aware of, namely gambling addiction. You use big money to gamble and that means there is a possibility that you will gamble longer than usual and that means you take the risk of losing the money if you lose.
So it's better if we use small money to gamble. After all, our goal in gambling is just to have fun and spend our free time, so there is no need to use big money to gamble.

Read some of the scam accusations. If the Book says that you are multi-accounting or playing from a restricted region, it's your word against their word. Some books you don't have to deal with he said, she said. That's why they have no open scam accusations.

If you just play normally and don't act "smart" trying to exploit bonuses and other loopholes then you should be okay. The best thing you could do is to always ask the customer support of the specific things you want to know before playing so you would have some sort of evidence in case your funds gets frozen.

Remember that this is a bitcointalk community. Privacy is important and taught here.

I'd like to correct this. Rollbit has many open scam accusations. Here's the list for sportsbooks. Scam accusations updated monthly. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

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