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legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 25, 2023, 02:02:28 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.
There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.

Always up to you if you will go to use it and take the risk. If the bet will win, it doesn't mean that it will keep on winning. The chance that some of the shared pick will lose is always possible. You should trust your own instinct and if ever you will follow someone's pick, make sure that you also do some extra research to make sure that the chance of winning is better.

There's no guarantee as we are inside gambling. We should follow our own decision and hope for the best outcome.
legendary
Activity: 3108
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 25, 2023, 11:54:50 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.
There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.
legendary
Activity: 2170
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March 25, 2023, 10:31:29 AM
I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.
There are provably fair casinos out there if anyone is interested in checking the odds. I think it is popular enough that most people probably know which one is verifiable and which one is just using jargon to trick its visitors. In one way or another, it is even more impossible to verify if a match in a sport is rigged or not unless the user has some access to insider information imo.

But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?
That would be a dumb move IMO. It is not like they can't recover from the loss (if they ever did). I bet the house is more or less winning regardless of the outcome of the match either way. As for compensation for those who bet on the wrong side, they'll probably give free bets or something similar. They can definitely use their ToS to prevent being bankrupt by shouldering users' 'mistakes', such as claiming that such a situation falls under "extraordinary circumstances" for example, and not the casino's fault. CMIIW.

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.
Recency bias definitely plays a part to arrive at such a conclusion. I also find similar behavior outside of casino games, I think people tend to remember bad luck better than good luck, so it is not uncommon for people to feel cheated even if they know that the house will always win in the long run. That being said, as long as they can gather enough data to support their claims, any unfair platform will be exposed sooner or later.
sr. member
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March 25, 2023, 10:18:17 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.
sr. member
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March 25, 2023, 09:45:12 AM
It's their RTP, your skills, knowledge, and luck combined that make the difference in winning and losing for every bet you've made. You are playing against the house and most likely, the rules will be in favor of the house to have their profit as well. They'll just give a reasonable percentage or rate of winning and then it will be all up to it and your capabilities whether you will win or not.

There are already provably fair games which makes it known that the game isn't rigged so if you want to know for sure, you can try gambling sites that offer that for your peace of mind. Sometimes, casinos randomly adjust the odds of an account too, so it'll be a matter of winning against the odds given to you.
hero member
Activity: 952
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March 25, 2023, 09:42:19 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
legendary
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March 25, 2023, 09:21:27 AM
When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?
I think if the match was proven manipulated in short time, the casino will void any users bet on that's match. But if the match was proven manipulated after few days or weeks, the casino can't void the bet since they've distribute the reward accordingly. They still have a chance to freeze the account of any player who have previously bet in that's match, but it just my assumption because I never experienced this problem.
hero member
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March 25, 2023, 08:54:29 AM
I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.

In sports betting you don't have that issue. The outcome is whatever the outcome is and the effort to verify it is essentially inherent in sports betting itself. There is no effort on your part. Except for games that are manipulated by players on the pitch or whatever you bet on, but that is a different story and up to legal authorities. When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?
hero member
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March 25, 2023, 08:05:58 AM
Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.
Especially new gamblers make negative comments about the casino when they lose consecutively which has no basis. Casinos always want to give maximum benefits to their clients but they have several terms and conditions that a gambler has to follow to conduct gambling activities. I received some complaints from several new gamblers and finally found their fault when I researched well. But yes, some new casinos can make mistakes that can be resolved with proper evidence.
full member
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March 25, 2023, 07:28:51 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble in trusted casinos for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.


Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.
legendary
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March 25, 2023, 06:39:35 AM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.
Indeed! Certain individuals simply cannot resist the temptation, persisting until they've lost it all. The lack of self-restraint is astonishing! Nevertheless, casinos must stay afloat, hence the house edge to guarantee their solvency. Winning every round is simply a pipe dream!

Still, it's not all about the W or L; it's the thrill of the game, the vibe we're after. That's why I tell the crew, hit up those top-notch casinos, like that spot you mentioned! You gotta feel protected and secure, knowin' they ain't gonna pull a fast one. Huge weight off your shoulders!

hero member
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March 25, 2023, 06:20:04 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble on trusted casino for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.
hero member
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March 25, 2023, 05:37:35 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.
hero member
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March 25, 2023, 04:07:30 AM
If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.
in this case the casino is popular and has a good reputation, usually they have been recognized that the casino is fair and it would not be possible for the casino to deceive us, while the casino is a business established to generate profits for the company owner.
maybe the people who judge casinos to be deceptive are frustrated people who gamble without responsibility and always lose money when betting without being able to control their emotions. so he feels that the casino has tricked him even though the casino is provided to make customers happy and must gamble responsibly.
legendary
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Metawin.com
March 24, 2023, 10:01:49 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Most likely the answer is no as the house edge is mostly the one doing the work and that one session is just unlucky as most gamblers have probably been through the same situation.

With live casino games, there might not be any way to verify their fairness but it's still hard to think they're cheating as I assume they're being monitored similar to how games from third-party providers are being inspected to confirm they're fair.
hero member
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March 24, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
hero member
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
March 24, 2023, 08:00:04 PM
If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.
legendary
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March 24, 2023, 07:47:05 PM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.
hero member
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March 24, 2023, 07:42:30 PM
Snip~
We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.


One thing that have constantly being in practice in most casino is the strict adherence to their terms and conditions and since casinos build with profit-making as the primary goal it now becomes very important for the casino to always win against the player no matter what, and only highly reputable casinos will revisit any case that has to do with account balance and players winnings.

-This has been the major reason why some casinos are constantly accused of stealing and cheating players, so it is now left for the casino to either build a good reputation by putting players interest as much as the casino's gains and do what is fair and acceptable.

-This is the only way gamblers will not feel cheated in anything that happens while their playing in such a casino.
sr. member
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Next Generation Web3 Casino
March 24, 2023, 07:32:04 PM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.
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