Are Casino Sites Cheating Us? - page 5.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

I think you are just unlucky with your draws. Again, this is gambling and any outcome is possible given the circumstances of what you are betting. If you have noticed this kind of pattern on your bets, then why continue to bet huge amounts in the first place? In addition, if you suspect that an online casino is allegedly "cheating", then post all the necessary proof to substantiate your claim.

Lastly, I also want to point out that any issues with a certain gambling website should be fixed by simply switching to another online casino. There are lots of online casinos available and some offer better bonuses/rewards as compared to the others.

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Losing doesn't mean the site is cheating, this is how gambling works and probably you made a mistake with your bet or its really a bad day for you. This is gambling, losing are more possible than winning and this is not cheating, gambling is a business so expect that you will not always win. If you are using the best site, you can have a peace of mind about its fairness since it is already a proven site, what you can do is try to know if the site is being fair or have any issues, if you find any better to leave that site and look for a good one.

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I doubt both live Blakcjack and the provably fair version are rigged, the provably fairness lets you confirm the bet results aka cards with simple verify tools. Regarding live game shows, audits have published the results public and you can check how fair these games are on specific platforms, IIRC. In provably fair Blackjack games, bet amount has no influence over the bet result so you will get same cards on $10k or $0 bets.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

I am not sure where you play but that sounds like a confirmation bias as you are vague on the stats and haven't included any data. Not that sampling wouldn't be big enough to jump any conclusions anyway.

If a game would be rigged, it would be noticed by ton of players and whales wouldn't just play that game if they were losing all the time, so it wouldn't make any sense for casino to implement such a cheat system. Also casinos get audited and that kind of anomaly would show up in total stats.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

It depends on which site you are gambling on and if that site is using provably fair algorithm where you can verify the output yourself.
If they are not doing it then there are chances that the site might be cheating you.
How did you lose all the $1k in just one day. At least you should have played with 25% of the amount and kept the rest for other days.
Sometimes it's just about the luck. It work one day and it might not on others.
With 25% amount you could have tried your luck on 4 days and go to know if the site is really cheating you or not.

Betting all in is never advisable if you can’t afford to lose it, as gambling never guarantees you to win in the end. Maybe cheating is really possible in some casinos but we can’t really tell as to how it can be done as most of the casino these days have already adopted a provably fair games that will allow the players to verify the fairness of their bets. So it’s hard to tell if there is really cheating or it’s only you who have suspected that there’s any. However, if you gamble responsibly at the beginning, you will never experience a huge loss.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on March 23, 2023, 04:28:47 PM

The truth is none of us really know. I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case. It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe. I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us. I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.

If there's a proof then for sure you would be throwing up some accusations which is likely for someone to do so.THere's no way we could really be able to prove out that they are really scamming us but one things for sure that we do always lose in the end specially into those people who do gamble up on long sessions which the house would be always having the advantage.This is why when we do gamble then its better to stick out
into those reputable places or known ones which you can somewhat assure that you are dealing with something that scamming out their users.There might be some possible alterations or non-fair acts
but there's no way that we could be able to prove it out.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Cases like this happen in all casino sites not only Blackjack & Dice, for reputable casinos it's impossible to cheat in this way, but in cases like you describe I think it's just a matter of luck. Simply put you are against the system, so it could be that you are unlucky on the bet or the card you have is not the card needed to win the bet.

Regarding large and small bets, they are basically the same, you will get more curious and try to play many times even if you lose, that's why most people say gambling is closely related to addiction, especially if someone can't control it and this will only make it worse.

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The truth is none of us really know. I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case. It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe. I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us. I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Depending on which site you are playing on but it is unlikely if you do stick into a known one for them to cheat whenever you do have a big bankroll or allocation but who knows right? If you do able to notice out those

notable differences when it comes to outcomes then why wont stick out on smaller bets and make up some wins rather than on pushing yourself on trying to prove out and make use of huge ones?

It is really that hard to make out some conclusions in regarding to this considering that gambling do always means about losing for long term or runs which its never been that recommendable if you are
really trying to pursue out on making money which is really that a bad idea.

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Cheating might not be the right word for this, but casinos have control over those system and they are using this in favor to them.
Though some site hire third party for this, but I'm sure they will not allow gamblers to win that much. Some will win and some will lose the money, this is how gambling works and even a reputable site have their own dark side when it comes to their system. All you can do is to enjoy playing, and ignore those issues because a good site will be more fun to play as it can be rewarding especially with bonuses.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Surely in the scenario you've described, why would you not keep betting small - if you supposedly win off them, or just keep your betting pattern consistent. It's not like you have any control over the outcome of the game, you think that somehow controlling the bet amount means you can predict the outcomes. If you are betting bigger amounts and losing it is going to sting a lot more, so that becomes more memorable and your small bets become more cloudy. I think it's obscene to blow through $1,000 in a day on a website which tells you that the house has the advantage, it means that given a long enough time period they will take every penny of your money and they have done just that.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Well, cases like that are often experienced by most gamblers, I'm sure almost the average person experiences a case like what you are experiencing.

My bad experience. That happened in one of the slot games, when I bet my bonus I won, almost on average in every slot I played I experienced luck, however, when I make a large deposit and play in the same or a different slot, bad luck will strike, consecutive losses, strange. It seems I'm being watched and stalked by online casino dealers, they don't let me experience luck.

Yes, I believe that it is like a program Algorithm concept that has been programmed by casinos / individuals, they don't let us win. We really have to watch them off guard or fall asleep to re-bet after a big deposit within 2-3 days, to catch the luck.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

There are several times I've felt exactly this way, and like you , it's after having lost some significant amount of money to casino games..

The assumptions that casino are some how cheating us could be true, but I wouldn't want to believe that it's every casino, for all I know, there are still some really good and reputable casinos out there with a very provably fair system, but where the problems is is that, every casino claim to have a provably fair system, it becomes really hard to separate the wheat from the chaff..

I think the solution to this is for one to find a casino he or she really trust, and stick to playing there, this is what I think.

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Quote from: bittraffic on March 23, 2023, 01:48:56 PM

I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games. The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing. Cheesy

I think this has been a common looming suspicion every gambler experienced at least once or twice in their lives. I've been a part of it too, even went so far as to create two accounts in my old gambling site just to test my theory and compare results only to find out that I was indeed wrong because on some of the games I lost considerably, I won big on the other, and vice versa. So, does this mean that this is not something that the casinos could do? Absolutely not, I do think there are some shady ones out there that do this stuff under the gambler's noses. But you can bet your bottom dollar no reputable casino would do this, for the sole reason that this could lead to them driving their customers and patrons away, just like what the other guy said.

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I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games. The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing. Cheesy

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Reputable casinos wouldn't resort to this type of one-upping for the very reason that they don't need to. The game is already stacked against the player and all they just had to do is operate it so why would they make the game even harder to win at and potentially destroy their reputation from their potential users and current customers right?

So in that regard, ask yourself, Am I playing in a reputable casino? Will the casino I play in really go so low as to cheat on its players to secure big bags despite the fact that the games they already have here are stacked against the player? If your answer is yes to the second question, time to avoid that gambling site and switch up for another.

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I don't think you're being cheated because what you're facing is the real risk of gambling. Losing will always be a part of the gambling journey no matter how big or small your bet is. It's just that you can't expect to win over the house always. If you are experiencing losses every time you bet a huge amount, then try to change your strategy. There might be a more effective strategy that you can apply. Try to explore more but be sure to play at a reputable casino.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Which online gambling casino exactly are you talking about? Because if its some small, unknown, shady casino with a questionable reputation, then perhaps yes. But if its a legitimate casino with a good reputation then I doubt they would cheat you like that. Its too obvious a cheat for such a big, established business to do. It would be financial suicide for them.

I think what happened is you got really unlucky and started connecting coincidences with things that are not necessarily true. Otherwise there would be more people noticing such things and more people would be complaining.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 23, 2023, 11:06:22 AM

Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time Cheesy

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.

They created the system for them to win, so what we can expect from the house?
If you don't want to lose money then don't gamble, because this is a purely based on luck so don't expect that much. I don't know why do you the site is cheating against us when if fact its your own choice to gamble not unless you are using unfamiliar site which I believe can be more prone to cheating and manipulation.

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Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time Cheesy

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.

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