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March 23, 2023, 06:22:33 AM
#28
Casinos can cheat you but if it's a trusted casino, I don't think the casino will still cheat you because it's about their reputation. And you should not have to think about the fraud that casinos do because it will interfere with your gambling time and you will not be able to enjoy it. If you don't want to lose much money, don't bet a lot, that's the key. But many people don't care about this and think that using a lot of money can provide an opportunity to get big wins.

Besides that, I don't know what the algorithm of the casino is because I don't really know about the algorithm. It's possible that their algorithm is the same as any other casino and it's just our luck that it doesn't come at the right time.
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March 23, 2023, 04:39:09 AM
#27
You're just assuming without concrete shreds of evidence to back up your claim, gamblers are like that accusing casinos of cheating when they are losing, and when they are winning they boast that they have uncovered a secret method or developed their own method to continue winning.
You have to get the fact instead of assuming that you are being cheated check out the fairness and reputation of the casino you're playing its a big factor that you need to check, check out other casinos if you're getting the same results, online casinos are booming online business because there are people winning and there are people enjoying the game, if they are cheating and there's no winner in all casinos platform people will lose their trust and instead play on physical casinos.
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March 23, 2023, 04:32:44 AM
#26
I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not so sure about that. Casino sites use random number generators and provably fair algorithms to ensure that games are fair and unbiased. It's just a matter of luck and probability. But, I think the key is to understand that the odds are always against you in gambling. That's why it's important to be aware of the risks and to gamble responsibly. The best way to avoid losing big is to just stick to small bets. That way, even if you lose, it won't be a huge blow to your bankroll.
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March 23, 2023, 04:28:20 AM
#25
A reputable and trusted casino wouldn't scam you, it's just a matter of luck. Usually when you're gamble using higher amount than you willing to lose, you will get a pressure and it force you to chase winning. But when you gamble with small amount money, you have nothing to lose and just play it. I think when you get pressured, you will not use all of your skill since you're always think with your money.
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March 23, 2023, 03:50:21 AM
#24
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

How often are most of these times and how many casinos do you have this kind of results, you cannot generalize if it's only one casino and you have not done surveys for you to say that this is the case.
It should be consistent and it should be on many platforms and it includes the number of gamblers, just because you are losing you are questioning the results.

Check this article and asses if the casino you're playing right now is fair.

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RNG is Random Number Generator a computer program used to generate random numbers. Employed in almost all online casino games, it ensures that the outcomes are genuinely random and unpredictable. In other words, players have no chance of knowing what will happen in advance.

To keep their games truly fair, trustworthy gambling sites use sophisticated RNGs that are audited and certified by reputable testing laboratories.

How Do Online Casinos Ensure Their Games Are Fair?
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March 23, 2023, 03:41:49 AM
#23
Often happens including to me from several sites that I have played. I will say if the gambling site has set a pattern for players.
If you play with a small amount of capital but slowly the balance increases while playing and you also raise the bet, it is natural that you lose because it is their capital.
It is better if it is like that, that is, never winning when playing with large bets, it means that your account is not suitable for large bets and stop for a while.
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March 23, 2023, 03:30:44 AM
#22
Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

Players are bound to lose at all games in the long run.

After all, they are designed in such a way to trigger the dopamine rush once you win.

Cleverly exploiting human nature, only the handful of strong-willed individuals could resist.

But hey, business is still business.
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March 23, 2023, 03:11:15 AM
#21
But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Did you know that as your bet on one, another people are betting on another on the same game which is different from yours, so what you lose is what some people take and they are going win, that is how it happens in blackjack and dice. Do not think because you use small amount you are winning and if you are using higher amount you are losing,this thinking the gambling sites are manipulating is wrong. I can not say because of that conclude that gambling sites are manipulating because it is most likely that people will have different mindset if gambling with small amount of money and if also gambling with high amount of money.

I love sport betting in addition to some casino games, can sport betting sites too manipulate like this? I do not think so. I noticed in the past when I was very addicted to sport betting, that if I use high amount of money that I do lose, but if I am using small amount of money to stake, that I do win. I was very surprised when my friend told me the same thing too. So do not think of it as manipulation, your mindset and the way you bet may be altered with increasing amount that you are using to bet.
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March 23, 2023, 03:03:29 AM
#20
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not sure I can give you a good answer, but I myself have no doubts about the algorithms of some online gambling sites at the moment (I'm not sure they are cheating us), claims probably fair may be a little doubtful for players, but when you play, you must be fully aware that you can lose all your money, so it's all your responsibility. My advice is if you really doubt the algorithm of a gambling site, then play with small capital, don't try to put big capital in your game, especially if it's a slot or dice game.
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March 23, 2023, 02:59:53 AM
#19
I think it is not the casino or may be let's put it the way OP asks here,they do "cheat" us but only thanks to the provider of the games the casino offers to us.I will make you a personal example and despite not being Blackjack but slot machines the analogy is almost the same,the moment I was playing with minimal bet the slot machine kept giving me profit,getting near 200 dollars in profit with 0.10 dollar bet is a good achievement for my standard but you start getting bored because it takes a lot more time to grow your balance further.In this case it is in our DNA-human nature that we want to get more and more profit and we raise the bet,that is an extreme error which 100% of the times has brought me to 0 balance.
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March 23, 2023, 02:49:24 AM
#18
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.

Change the casino that you're using to bet, maybe their systems isn't fair and they have manipulated it so they win when you bet big and they lose when you bet small to encourage you to bet more so they make profits from you. But if you try some other casino and the returns come out the same then note that your lucks are on small bets.

There's nothing wrong in betting small and winning, keep doing that and you might accumulate enough money for yourself. Don't be greedy and increase your staking amount, already you have seen that it doesn't work out for you so continue betting small and win.
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March 23, 2023, 02:14:51 AM
#17
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Listen to yourself, if small amount is what keeps bringing you a good fortune then accept your luck, I thought it's always a good thing to use a small amount of money for gambling, the only way to lower your loss is by using a small amount of money.

Also, some online gambling platforms will try to wake the greediness in their players, making them win with small amounts so that they can get greedy and retry again with Big amount of money, this is common sense, think about it, why win only when you play with a small amount? You are not alone.

A smart gambler would have known how the platform is operating, and have some laughs about it, but keep playing with small amount, since that's the only assured way to win on such a platform.
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March 23, 2023, 02:02:21 AM
#16
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It's really hard to proved it casinos are cheating, but we all know that they have the edge, so it might be the case that you are getting. Or maybe luck in not on your side when you bet huge money. Unless you can check everything and set that they are changing the seed, hence they make you lose.

And so you might have that kind of feeling that you are being cheated, but if there's no proved at all then there's nothing we can do.

Too bad to here that you have lost $1k, that is a huge amount.
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March 23, 2023, 02:00:47 AM
#15
Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

If you think a casino is cheating you, verify its provably fair algorithm yourself. If you are confused how to do this, do some searching on YouTube.

In either case, the reputed long time running casios would not cheat you because have many forum users here who are well accustomed with this system and actively seek out casinos and their algos for bugs and possibl exploits.
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March 23, 2023, 01:49:44 AM
#14
In this regard you missed an opportunity though. Since you say that you win by betting with small amounts. I think you should have played with smaller amounts. However, no such complaint was found on any reputable site. When you bet more, your luck doesn't favor you. Or it could be that the site is cheating you. But for this you must collect proper evidence. Otherwise you cannot take any action against them. If your doubt is strong and you can't gather any evidence, you may be better off choosing another good site.
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March 23, 2023, 01:11:28 AM
#13
Of course, the old proven casinos that use the provable fairness algorithm are unlikely to deliberately make small bets for the most part winning, and large bets losing.  But OP certainly should write here why he decided to take a chance and play with a rather large amount of $1K.  After all, OP used to play with small amounts?  It would be better if you continued to play with small amounts and there would be a balance of wins / losses.  I think that this is the OP's mistake, who took a risk and lost, which generally happens with a probability of 50/50. I don't think that such casinos have introduced elements of fraud into the algorithm.  And, by the way, other regular players of this casino would have noticed this long ago. 
I still do not rule out that this topic and similar ones, the same accusations against a certain casino can be created in order to create anti-advertising for this particular casino. Smiley
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March 23, 2023, 01:05:44 AM
#12
if you feel being cheated when you bet bigger then stop putting high bets  Grin Grin

this is business so what kind of business will love to pay higher ? meaning it is being installed in their system , and also the reason why there are only few chances that a gambler can win too much .

Look at the lottery . while they are promising super high wins? yet the system to win is really hard and sometimes each draw brings no winner for jackpot and that comes a million ways to lose but a single chance to win.
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March 23, 2023, 01:01:57 AM
#11
I think it's just a coincidence, maybe you should try it by playing using the same bet value in each round, so you can do another evaluation. Casinos already have HE and without cheating they already get big profits with the setting of the HE, and do bad things in their games to get even bigger profits. I think that casinos that already have big names will not do this, maybe it could happen to a new casino or a casino that was made for the sole purpose of deceiving, but with the amount of money you use to play you should play at a trusted casino so you don't experience what you think is really happening. Casinos that are built to actually survive in this tight industry won't go under by cheating, it will only cost them players, and ultimately destroy their business.
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March 23, 2023, 12:56:12 AM
#10
I prefer to gamble at trusted casino sites.  And I played Blackjack with Stake.com yesterday. And I know this site as a trusted site.  And they have been campaigning on this forum for a long time. I think they are involved in some fraud.  If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?
If you think they're involved in fraud to make you lose, you can create a new thread in scam accusations section, I believe people will defend on stake and no one trust you except trolls Grin

There's no fraud in Stake, you're just unlucky during played Blackjack, as you said you've won when you're use small amount, but you're lose when you're use big amount money. You will not always win and you will not always lose in gambling.
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March 23, 2023, 12:31:32 AM
#9
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

The feeling you have is quite common but it is nothing more than a feeling. Almost all the casinos that advertise on the forum are trusted and don't rip you off because they make enough money doing things legitimately. What you say is probably just a coincidence of short term results. When you talk about 'always' that I have put in bold, what sample results are we talking about? Millions? Surely not. Another thing that tends to happen is that when we bet large amounts it is scary money for us and we change the way we bet as well as being more sensitive to the results.

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