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They're not. Are they taking advantage of the gamblers putting so much money in their bets? Yes. We can't deny that gamblers have their behavioral patters in playing and casinos have learned using it at their advantage. Letting gamblers win temporiraly is nothing compared when gamblers start to put more bets hoping to win more.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 23, 2023, 06:24:54 AM

I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.

Risks will always be there but luck won't. So I think the best way to be disciplined in playing is sticking in your budget and enjoy your game. If you find yourself losing games in a row, try not to continue playing irrationally just to get a return of your money.

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Point here is, winning will never be certain especially for games wherein luck is the baseline. Manage your bets in a way that won't hurt your pocket totally. Betting efficiently will save you from regrets. Also, keep in mind that this industry doesn't revolve around you alone. If you lose an amount big on your end, how sure are you that others are not? There's no cheating in this scenario; you're just unlucky and somewhat a hard bettor. Pushing your way to win will never be advisable 'coz it has a higher tendency to result into bigger losses. Sites are only cheating if no one really wins the game, also, you have the rights to move to another platform if this is the case than to wait for the platform itself to adjust and put things in favor on your end.

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I think you have such thoughts only because you lost a good amount in one evening.Here, correctly, the topic says that you need to take into account the risk of management and be prepared to lose the amount.Gambling has a luck factor and that's it.You just have better luck next time.And casinos that have a reputation won't deal with problems for players because they won't come back to play again.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

As you lost to the algorithm, you will be surprised how many people won the algorithm and not just in little amounts but huge sums. Casino site algorithms are difficult to bet because your chances of winning against the house is always lesser than the chances of the algorithm beating you. Do not feel cheated because you have lost, maybe you should try other games or try to understand the game and study more about the game you play.

Blackjack which is the game you mentioned OP is based on skill, If you sharpen up your skills, maybe you will do better.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Be mindful that the algorithm was made intentionally to the casinos' advantage. We can only call them cheating if we have proved that they do. AFAIK, games does have server seeds which you can use to analyze if the game is fair or not.

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Just stay betting with smaller amounts if you've been lucky with that. That's the strategy that you must do because you've noticed that whenever you bet big amounts, luck isn't with you. Yeah, maybe there's something to do with the algorithm and we can't do anything against it as we're playing against the house. So, if you're lucky enough playing with smaller amounts and that's giving you the win then there's no reason for you to change ways and it's the reason why it's best for you to just bet with smaller amounts and go with a mile of wins with it.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.

That's my question too, it's not easy to spot or you wouldn't see anything at all. I think it's just a coincidence on the OP's side and not totally the fault at casinos, if you're gambling with game of chance then you would know it depends on the multiplier you're using or same thing.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

It depends on which site you are gambling on and if that site is using provably fair algorithm where you can verify the output yourself.
If they are not doing it then there are chances that the site might be cheating you.
How did you lose all the $1k in just one day. At least you should have played with 25% of the amount and kept the rest for other days.
Sometimes it's just about the luck. It work one day and it might not on others.
With 25% amount you could have tried your luck on 4 days and go to know if the site is really cheating you or not.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Technically we're always cheated by casinos (and we willingly agree to it though) with their house edge but the issue seems to be another thing here. I wouldn't call it an issue though, you just got unlucky simple as that. If you want to go nitty gritty about the details, small amounts of bets basically increase the number of games you can play, which also spreads out the chances of you winning and losing more compared to one big win. I mean, in cases of a 100 matches with a 50/50 chance, if you lost the first but won the rest, then that's good right? But what if you bet big and lost everything on the first one? It's simple logic like that. Wouldn't call it a cheat, just how it goes when it comes to luck.

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I haven't experienced it before because I haven't tried gambling with a large amount of money before. And I'm not sure if your claim is correct or not but I think since your playing again the system they could be a way for them to do something like that but I bet any casino will be willing to do because if they are eventually caught that could be the end of their business.
As long as it's something that can be tempered with by the dev team then it's possible for them to do. I'm not saying that they do engage in such an act but to be on the safer side make sure you use little amount to wager since you always win everytime you place a bet with small amount.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on March 23, 2023, 07:11:57 AM

Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.

This does not make any casino a cheater because you can check its fairness as long as it made available to you by the casino you're playing, if that is the case then do not bet a big amount of money just increase your bet when you are in winning bets, it will take 100 of bets for you to prove your assumption and play on at least 10 casinos.

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In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

You did not mention the name of the casino so they can address your concern or assumption but why are playing in a casino where you cannot verify its fairness, maybe you need to take time and come back a week later and check if you're still getting the same results on that casino or check other casinos, other gamblers are lucky on one casino over the other, if you're not sure of the casino you're playing then go on other casinos.

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Casinos aren't cheating because gamblers also were found to be involved in many ways that could wrecked down a casino into bankruptcy by cheating on their website, so if you see dome casino website showing some kind of strictness is to guard against any infiltration of hack against their system wgich is now found common among gamblers today to always attempt cheating a casino, and if you suspect any casino also involved in cheating gamblers, then just make sure you avoid further deals in using the casino by going for another.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice. I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice. Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times. In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues. I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Well maybe depends on which site you are playing. Since its possible that they could cheat their user and put something on script that can make their players lose in the long run. But sometimes its just a mistake of the player since they are been to greedy to bet larger amount and think about winning a huge money for that round. There are times that we are out of luck so its normal that sometimes we think negative about that situation and maybe we should learn from this next time we play.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 23, 2023, 07:03:50 AM

There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.

A simple fact is that all the popular sites always try to conduct their business honestly. Because they think a gambler is their assets. No matter who are small or big gambler. They know well that even a small gambler can do them great harm. So their vision is equal to everyone. But there are some sites that try to scam with their client, but it's different. Good sites cannot be compared to those sites. In this case my advice would be to discard the site it would be doubtful. But should research well whether he is doing something wrong or not.

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First of all, you should only blame yourself for that loss. It was your responsibility. Not casinos, algorithm, bad weather, sleepless night and etc. Casinos dont need to cheat to get gamblers money. Gamblers will lose them anyway. Casinos earn from every bet gamblers made, no matter if gamblers lose or win. They get their tiny percent anyway. And they dont need to ruin their reputation by cheating you for $1k, if they can get a cent from every bet thousands of gamblers make daily in their casino.

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Quote from: leonair on March 22, 2023, 10:39:46 PM

I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms? Are they cheating with us?

Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

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There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.

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Quote from: mindrust on March 22, 2023, 11:04:18 PM

Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…

It could be possible if you are gambling in an illegal casino but if you are in a reputable one, it’s hard to say they’re cheating simply because they won’t gain their reputation if they have been cheating ever since. Let’s just say you were never lucky that time, and those times you bet small amounts, the luck is all yours. Gambling outcome is always unpredictable, you will never know when you will lose or when you will win. But most of the time, it’s a loss since the house will always have an edge over us.

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I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.

And as what the majority says, very hard to come up with such proof.

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