Topic: Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 17. (Read 3497 times)

I play slots a lot longer than you... and I have experience with almost all providers (good & bad). I had many big wins from normal spins, many like zillion, up to x200. And I experienced many under x10 bonus wins... a bunch of them under x5 and x0.

In the bonus round, the chances for us to win something big are pretty high... but only if we are lucky. As I wrote we can hit a bonus round and win almost nothing, or in the worst case nothing (x0). If we are lucky we will hit something huge, but that rarely happens.


I don't wish to scare you, but 200 spins is nothing... even when x2 chances to hit a bonus round is activated. I experienced up to 400-500 spins without hitting a bonus round, and from some discussions, I found out that some people didn't hit a bonus round even after 600-700 spins.

Slots are tricky... many times I won a bonus round in the first 10 spins. The more you play them the more confused you will be, until you learn the truth that slots are all about luck. I like to test my luck with slots, and if I am lucky I know how generous they can be... but if we are unlucky we will just burn out any balance we have. One thing I always say is "if you are not ready to lose your balance don't play slots".



One member of this forum is buying just "super spins"... he doesn't even bother to buy normal bonus spins. Those super spins are also super tricky, they are expensive as hell, but with them, the chances for some high multi are rising... I saw his bets, 4-5 super bonus gave nothing...but the next one gave a decent amount. So even those are all about luck, and you need to have a huge balance in order to endure all bad ones until you win something.

Bottom line... there's no bottom line about this matter except what I said, when someone decides to play slots he needs to be ready to lose the balance. If you are not ready to risk all you have don't bother to play. And when we play slots it's the maximum risk we can take.

It must be remembered that slots use a Random Number Generator (RNG) to determine what will happen with each pull - whether it's a regular one or a special one. the results are, therefore, random and unforeseeable.

While the RNG is the basic determinant of all spins, the pay structure and odds on bonus features can be different from regular spins. There are some games created to give more multipliers or big wins in bonuses, but they could also be the opposite. Free games can really suck if you wait so long and then get a small prize, for the reason that the RNG still works similarly.

It could also be that the bonus buys are designed to tempt the player into taking it more often, but that does not make it always bad. The point is always to set expectations and manage your money properly. Just because something is free or a bonus buy does not ensure that it will be more profitable than a regular spin because, as ever, luck is involved.

How did you think you would win something huge from free spins?
Just I wonder why you would have this mindset to focused your thinking about making free spins to gain something higher from it, while you and I know that almost or most of the casinos are designed to winning very less to participants and the winning radio could be 1/10 or 10/100 which is extremely poor.

I think it is the same as you asking about which is better between free spins or normal spins regardless of whether you get the free spins by buying them or coming by itself, while however and until whenever as we know that gambling especially casino games are random based games, you will see that sometimes free spins are much better than normal spins or vice versa.

So I think you will never be able to find out about what is the difference between the two, the point is you will only get something that looks tempting and fun when luck comes at the right time regardless of whether it comes from free spins or normal spins.

I don't think they are not rigged in anyway, it's just a tactic from the slot providers to spin more than we wanted to do we will go with bonus packs instead of normal ones because that's how the common sense will analyse that situation. For some reason I want to stay out of bonus packs so I can't really speak about winning with free spins but I knew people won decent money with their free spins as well so I guess it's all just a coincidence.

You can't expect that the bonus spins will give better results than the normal spins that we get because it involves a buy-in.

I think we can apply the logic that we can't have the nicest things just for free. And this is why you're right that it is a trap made by the casino by providing free spins and maybe there's some algorithmic program on it that once that number of spins is made from the free spins, there will be some rewarding moment.

But other than that, you cannot hope for the best with free spins.

For slot players then pretty sure they had noticed it out but there's no way that we could be able to prove out that they've been rigging out those free spins to be shit. Actually we've been expecting too much or being positive with these spins on which if we do really be able to compare it out into buy bonus feature then we can be able to compare out the rate or chance or odds of hitting up somehow is really that noticeable. This is why im with you into this kind of sentiment on which we could really be able to observe it out on whats happening but just like been said that there's no way on proving it out
if it was intentional or really just that coincidence on what we are really that able to experience on.

Well indirectly this is also something I question my friend, thank you for opening the topic, I am also one of the gamblers who favor casino games like slots and lately I feel that when I manage to get a bonus round (without buying) I see the rounds in it are really very bad, this happens in the long term like the last few months which is added again it is really difficult to get the free spins if you don't buy them, I have completed hundreds of rounds and even though the balance in my account has run out I still haven't managed to get the free spins.

This is really annoying, I don't know about whether most casinos are now changing the mechanism in each game to make it harder to win or what, because previously what I thought was maybe because I was really far from luck, this situation really makes it difficult for me to win, even in small amounts, and indirectly this situation also makes my interest in gambling disappear.

I think that it does not differ much as I believe the same algorithm to be used most of the time. I know for example from experience that Play n Go usually in their bonuses will give you 90% free spins that sucks and only 10% that are really paying well while with providers who offer you to buy the bonus this is a bit better, it is 80% of the games suck and 20% will be profitable, it is in this 20% of how big of a profitable bonus will be that decides win/loss ratio and in these providers the RTP is much better than providers who don't let you buy the bonus. This is in general and I never had a better situation in normal spins rather than in bonus ones simply because I play only games where the bonus makes a real difference and not the normal game, so this depends also on the type of slot that you choose to play.

I thought, I was the only one who thought like that, when I got free spins most of the results were not comparable, but I realized that we only focus on the results we get which are not in accordance with the expectations we want, it's like our brains are washed when playing slots

This is an exciting topic because learning how slot machines work could help you win more and increase your chances of winning.

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According to the website I searched above, There are different RNGs for free spins compared to bonus spins. It is definitely unpredictable, and it is harder to quantify it as well. I don’t think the developers would fully say it or something.

It is designed to let more money in than out.

Unlike you , I don't think I have been playing that long. However, in the short while I have been playing slot, I would say that the spins in a bonus games which I have been fortunate to have a couple of times have boosted my winnings like 20%. It may be that in your case, for example while the worth of each normal spin is $1, the worth of a bonus spin is half a dollar. It is my hypothesis and I stand to be corrected.

For some of the commenters, I meant to point out the "bonus spins" feature on a slot game like those present in Sweet Bonanza by Pragmatic, and not free games being given out by casinos as a bonus to their users.


I've been playing with Pragmatic for over 3 years now, and have made some huge wins here and there with their games. I tried Hacksaw Gaming's slots (Le Bandit, Rotten Switch) and feel like they're something I would play if I feel like my luck isn't with PG.  I know that Pragmatic classify their games as high volatility, high RTP slot games which makes profiting off it very hard, but for some reason I feel like my luck with normal spins without the bonus feature is better compared to those with it activated, hence the question.


Normally it's paying 100x for Pragmatic's buy bonus feature, with the super bonus feature at 500x. There is this one time wherein my 10 automatic spins resulted into 5 bonus games. Guess what, I stake $0.5 per spin and the largest I got from those 5 bonus games is only $7.9. That's something really disappointing but I guess that's how RNG works.


If there are good slots games with high RTP, I would perhaps give it a go. The main reason I play with Pragmatic is because they offer high RTP slots, and I sit for 2-3 hours in one session, and that 96.53% really helps in those 2-3 hours and around thousands of spins.

Still boils down on luck mate, I have games that I used the boy bonus and win some, but most of the times, I experienced dead spins. Same when I get the bonus round, normal spins without boy bonus, and the results are the same.

I know the concept of RTP, but I would just say, f**k it, I will just play and test my luck with my favorite slot games. And yes, specially Evolution games. So I would just play and if I lose then so be it, I wouldn't put my mind and stress myself, maybe I really suck, or maybe lady luck is on my side.

Now I play slots very rarely, I would even say that almost never, and I prefer other gambling games and bets. But when I played, I was once credited with free spins in a slot with a genie. So in the end I managed to win so much that I beat off a huge wager. And in the end I earned $ 180, I would be very happy, but after that I no longer played because I understand how slots work. And all sorts of cards with bright characters and catching wild do not amuse me much, perhaps I am too old. Nevertheless, if I see somewhere free spins in a bookmaker's counter which I consider authoritative, then maybe I will not pass by.

Spot on! Your free spins is a form of motivation to pay for the real games. And yes, this online casinos did not establish a business for them to run into loss. Those free spins, what you stand to gain if you win, is minimal compared to what you can win from normal games. And the chances of winning, indeed, is low. So you need to understand the strategy of this online casinos. It's your real money that can give you real value. On rare occasions will you be able to win much with free spins, It's very rare.

So it's either you are playing a normal game or you are just using free spins for fun. But if you are using free spins to hope for a large reward, then you are in another planet. You are definitely not playing an online casino game; you are playing something else.

So it's best to use the free spins to have fun, but don't take it too serious. And try to watch yourself so you will not play more than you budgeted. Budgeting in casinos in game playing is really important. This way, you can have your peace of mind. You won't be angered by the fact that you didn't win much from your free spin because you already know you are in here to play games with real money and win real rewards afterwards. In summary, don't expect bounty rewards from free spin.

I felt like you just read my mind.

There was a time I got 3 times free spins in more or less 200 bets and all 3 gave me a multiplier below x20. Pretty shitty, yes. It got me thinking too if the "buy bonus" feature gives the same thing as those. So I tested it and yes there will be times it will give you the same result as the free spins that you receive from normally rolling the slots.
The sad part is, that you paid 75x to 100x times for the buy bonus and you will feel the sadness more than just getting it on the normal rolling. This is actually the reason why I don't use that buy bonus feature anymore after testing it. There's just no joy in doing that. In my opinion, the buy bonus is for gamblers who don't have the time to grind it.

Addition: Try playing slot providers without that feature. You will find it more amusing. I actually enjoyed them more than those with a buy bonus.

I will agree with this because I have had the same experience in playing free slot games and the result doesn't seem fair at all. It seems the game is being manipulated when the system finds out that the money staked is from the free games or bonus giving. Even if we are not certain about what is going on, it is something we should be concerned about since a lot of people have similar experiences.

I dont think it is bad luck, those who got lucky enough are part of the few who the platform wants to be lucky to win.

If you read carefully, he is not talking about the demo mode as “free games” rather the bonus round on the slot games if you hit certain amount of scatter symbols. In fact, Demo mode usually just same with the actual game because there’s no evidence so far about the difference on the set RTP.


You can lower the bonus buy amount if you lower the base bet. 100$ is really huge since it’s the default bonus buy amount for 1$ base bet which is set by the slot games the moment you open the slot game.

But you can purchase bonus buy for as low as 10$ or less depending on the currency you are using.

It's surprising, but not that surprising.

I also got many shit reward when it comes to something free or bonus, but when I gamble with real money, the reward tend to fair, sometime I lose and sometime I win. It's like when I gamble in free games, the house edge went up to 30%.

However, some people said we're in bad luck, but I don't understand why the bad luck mostly happen during free games lol.