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I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.
The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.
I agree with this, regarding slot gambling which is very dependent on luck, therefore the free spins given by the casino are one of the advantages for players in their luck factor, it is very rare for anyone to get a big win even though they have received repeated free spins and that is natural because luck will not come at all times, we just have to maintain our own limits so as not to do it excessively which can cause us big problems.
Someone who cannot accept the results of the free spins is disappointing, they will most likely chase victory by betting again and again or maybe doing the buy spin feature continuously, but that does not guarantee that they can win. The opportunity to win is there but you don't know when it will happen, the free spins you get are not a benchmark for players to get a profitable win, because if you are lucky, even without getting free spins, you can get a profitable win.
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There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.
Free spins and regular spins might be different when it comes to chances of winning as more of us are used to get little to nothing out of those free spins. But still, it's just an assumption as there are rare instances that players do win big on those bonuses or free spins given by the casino. We must also look into the amount of spins that we do on regular compared to the free spins since it can be a factor as to why we feel like we win more on regular than of free spins as the amount of spins we do are far more higher on regular spins. Still, luck is best determining factor since there proofs that people do win on those bonuses.
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For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?
I thought this only happen to me because this is exactly my experience with free games too. I have never won something serious with free spin even though I have been offered that many times. Some days I will exhaust my free games without wins only to win with my other bets that I paid for. This make me to feel that maybe it is different algorithm that the casinos use for free bets and for paid bet, although there is no evidence to justify this because there are people who would have won with free bets. It could also be possible that the lack of winning from free bets might be because of the carelessness that follows free bets that is not like that with paid bets.
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Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?
There is no way to be sure unless we took a look at the code or there were enough players like you that were curious about this answer, and they took the time to pool their results and then draw some conclusions from them, however it would not surprise me if your thoughts are correct and this is just a trap to make players spend more money when playing slots, and in that case maybe it is time for you to try to find another game you may like.
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The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.

Between people that loses their bonus and people that won, those that lost are more likely to continue gambling than those that won, that is what I think. There is going to be a feeling that they almost had it, for people that lost and this will make them to deposit money to wager for the same games they were playing. The money casino spend on bonus to attract gamblers has more impact than when they run ads for people to get to know about their casinos. People get attracted to free things and want to gain from it therefore they look for free bonuses from casino and go after them. Some people are lucky to win but many others are not lucky and this make them want to win something from the casino but the end up giving the casino more profits from their losses.
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The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.
There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.
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I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.
The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.
There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.
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When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.

A friend of mine plays in a casino that uses a similar ugly interface with a macaque. And the whole point of this character is to make the gambler who loses to this macaque feel offended. It's a shame that the gambler is beaten by an ugly monkey, and he gets angry and loses control of himself. It turns out that this is the perfect way to piss off any gambler. It's a pity that casino owners order such a design without caring about the psyche of players.
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You should understand it's business and bonuses are made to attract more customers and bring them in to try out the game o they cannot be giving you the best games as a bonus because if they do, you will definitely not have anything to anticipate or look forward to and having to get back on the game again but then when u have a trial that interest you, you would want to proceed further to get more of the game and that is the reason the bonuses feels like they aren't as good a s the main games, they need u to spend some money to get the fun u desire and probably win if u Lucky but before then, they should have made some money from you.

The bonuses advertised on slot games will of course be able to make anyone interesting to try it but when someone can't control themselves on the game will certainly continue to play to be able to feel what they have seen in the advertisement of the game and it's true as you said if they immediately give a win on the game of course they don't have any advantage from the bets that others play and even Some people who have spent a lot of their money on the game have not been able to get the winnings they want and only luck will be able to give them a win in the game.

bonuser are normal
everyone wants it
the thing is that you wouldn't accept a bonus to take hard drugs, right?
treat gambling as a hard drug and you'll probably be fine
most people are only focused on winning and the casinos know that.
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I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.
The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.
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I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.

I support this view of your fellows.  I'm playing  in the land based casinos more than often and have to say that the feeling that comes from the online slot games is not fit to hold a candle to that one which  originates from the physical sensation of handles/buttons on the fruit machines. And another thing, real sounds  coming form the rotated gears and the karma of the slot's pit ...nothing at online gambling may be compared to these.

How about putting on VR helmet and playing slots? Plus putting on hi-end sound system. Will it give same emotions? Or it is like with chips, crunching and rustling sound packaging makes make you want to eat more and more?

Anyway, a lot has been said already, but we barely speak about "what reward, winning amount, slots feature does not suck". What would be OK for free games in slots? If they would give higher rewards? Or increased probability of winning?
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I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.

I support this view of your fellows.  I'm playing  in the land based casinos more than often and have to say that the feeling that comes from the online slot games is not fit to hold a candle to that one which  originates from the physical sensation of handles/buttons on the fruit machines. And another thing, real sounds  coming form the rotated gears and the karma of the slot's pit ...nothing at online gambling may be compared to these.
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When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.

You are wrong, maybe in the early days of slot machines, design could be terrible, but with the advancement of technology together with science, this slot designers could come up with something that will really attract even beginners to play and enjoy their games and so that's why slot machine games are one of those played in casino that really put a lot of money in the business.

Good question by the OP, and I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.
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When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.
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I thought it only happened in my environment, but it turns out it happened in other environments too. I think this happens because of the different beliefs of each of us, because if you say players who choose to spam buy free spins maybe it's only for people who don't want to bother, knowing the results will lose so they don't bother to spam buy free spins. Besides that, I'm sure you yourself have your own way of playing, once I found a video that gave a trick to spin manually several times and immediately auto spin 1000x and in just a few spins I had gotten free spins, I had believed in this trick but with the next gamble I did doing this trick didn't work, from here I think there really is no accurate trick at all.
With the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
there is no guarantee of a trick from spam buy free spins. because I also do it repeatedly and only go up a few percent for hours but in the end it disappears because of the ambition of targets like neighbors. I have done various tricks in the slot game world until I am disappointed. and comfortable with sports betting which I consider more optimal for making money
I agree with that, maybe for those who spam free spins it is one of the tricks that they believe can make them win, but actually if you think about it there is no clear and accurate trick to win in slot gambling, even though they might make a payment to get a trick it will not make them win if not because of luck on their side, because in slot gambling, in my opinion, winning is very much determined by luck, not by tricks or skills.
You yourself may feel disappointed because there is no accurate trick to win until you switch to sports betting, I myself feel what you feel, but I don't switch, it's just that I limit the games I play with limitations from various angles, by clearly understanding the luck factor that plays a big role in slot gambling.
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I also heard that when a jackpot is won, the casino needs to restore some of its solvency, so the issuance of winnings seems to be suspended. In addition, I heard that there are jackpot hunters in slots, they somehow monitor which games had a recent jackpot distribution and accordingly do not participate in these slots, but play only those in which there has been no jackpot for a long time, thereby trying to increase their chances. I do not know how effective this is, but there are those who do this and believe in it. I will not check this, because I do not play slots.
It is true that they do not play the slots where the jackpot was hit. I used to hold the same opinion and it has not changed. I remember how one guy won several thousand dollars in one of the slots. No one approached this game like that for a long time, since everyone understood perfectly well that nothing would work out. It is strange, of course, but this theory is confirmed almost every time. This assumption still works. As I understand it, this is how the hardware code of the game itself is arranged.
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Well I also have some friends who are the same as your friends where they have a habit of doing free spins first before buying free spins, I don't know whether it's a research ritual or not, but some of them do believe that by doing so when the manual spin goes well enough then they believe that by buying free spins they will get a big win.

As you said that some succeed and some don't, but from what I see more of them fail, meaning usually out of 5 trials for example they only manage to get one or two wins and the rest lose and if calculated usually the amount cannot cover the amount of loss they previously experienced in the trial stage, and other things even though for example they managed to get a big win but it is really very difficult for them to ignore greed, like the scenario you conveyed, and because of this why bringing the intention to produce is really not recommended because in the end your expectations and hopes will continue to increase so that it will lead you to lose again.
It's ridiculous to say a ritual with something that is done specifically in gambling, some people must have their own way according to what they believe in themselves, the goal is to get a big win in the bets they make. Maybe it's more appropriate to say it as a strategy or trick because if it's called a ritual, it's very ridiculous in my opinion. Sometimes someone who spams buying free spins can succeed in getting a profitable win, but I think the amount of winnings obtained is still relatively small with the losses obtained.
I agree that spamming buying free spins is more likely to fail in getting a win, because after all the bookies have arranged everything smoothly so that they can still excel in terms of profit, even though players buy free spins in very large numbers, it does not guarantee that they can win for sure. Not to mention if the goal is to seek profit, by buying free spins and being able to produce that win, it is possible that they will become greedy, which of course this greed tends to only lead them deeper.
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Absolutely agree with you. The first win in gambling contributes to the fact that the gambler returns to gambling again and again. After a long series of losses gambler may lose interest in gambling. Winning in the bonus round contributes to the same impact on human psychology that the first win. This is a great marketing move that is designed to attract or retain a gambler on the gambling platform. Winning depends on the algorithm for the distribution of rewards and if according to his calculations in the next 10 minutes none of the gamblers should not win, because only recently was paid a big win, then no matter how you do not play to win is unlikely to succeed.
I also heard that when a jackpot is won, the casino needs to restore some of its solvency, so the issuance of winnings seems to be suspended. In addition, I heard that there are jackpot hunters in slots, they somehow monitor which games had a recent jackpot distribution and accordingly do not participate in these slots, but play only those in which there has been no jackpot for a long time, thereby trying to increase their chances. I do not know how effective this is, but there are those who do this and believe in it. I will not check this, because I do not play slots.

In the old days of physical casinos, when online casinos did not exist yet, there was a trick in the bars in the casino. I know that the bartenders in these establishments always remembered the slot machines that had recently given out winnings and jackpots to gamblers. And there are rumors that for a certain fee, you could always find out from such rams which of the machines were currently worth the accumulated profit.
I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.
All totally depends on how you would really be that treating out on which there would really be those individuals who would really be that expecting too much or simply being too positive
when it comes into this approach and there are ones who do just simply go with the flow on whatever the result would really be. There would really be those times or moments
that you will really be having those kind of noticing about the odds on winning up the rolls on which there would really be those times that you dont just really care.
There would really be those individuals who are really that too optimistic on winning up those free spins on which we do know that house do always have the edge.
They are indeed running a business so its normal that they will really be setting out everything at their advantage.
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Absolutely agree with you. The first win in gambling contributes to the fact that the gambler returns to gambling again and again. After a long series of losses gambler may lose interest in gambling. Winning in the bonus round contributes to the same impact on human psychology that the first win. This is a great marketing move that is designed to attract or retain a gambler on the gambling platform. Winning depends on the algorithm for the distribution of rewards and if according to his calculations in the next 10 minutes none of the gamblers should not win, because only recently was paid a big win, then no matter how you do not play to win is unlikely to succeed.
I also heard that when a jackpot is won, the casino needs to restore some of its solvency, so the issuance of winnings seems to be suspended. In addition, I heard that there are jackpot hunters in slots, they somehow monitor which games had a recent jackpot distribution and accordingly do not participate in these slots, but play only those in which there has been no jackpot for a long time, thereby trying to increase their chances. I do not know how effective this is, but there are those who do this and believe in it. I will not check this, because I do not play slots.

In the old days of physical casinos, when online casinos did not exist yet, there was a trick in the bars in the casino. I know that the bartenders in these establishments always remembered the slot machines that had recently given out winnings and jackpots to gamblers. And there are rumors that for a certain fee, you could always find out from such rams which of the machines were currently worth the accumulated profit.
I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.
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I thought it only happened in my environment, but it turns out it happened in other environments too. I think this happens because of the different beliefs of each of us, because if you say players who choose to spam buy free spins maybe it's only for people who don't want to bother, knowing the results will lose so they don't bother to spam buy free spins. Besides that, I'm sure you yourself have your own way of playing, once I found a video that gave a trick to spin manually several times and immediately auto spin 1000x and in just a few spins I had gotten free spins, I had believed in this trick but with the next gamble I did doing this trick didn't work, from here I think there really is no accurate trick at all.
With the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
there is no guarantee of a trick from spam buy free spins. because I also do it repeatedly and only go up a few percent for hours but in the end it disappears because of the ambition of targets like neighbors. I have done various tricks in the slot game world until I am disappointed. and comfortable with sports betting which I consider more optimal for making money

Of course, in fact, the various tricks that are owned or believed by a gambler involved in the type of slot game are nothing more than something speculative, or what is meant is a trick that is still a matter of luck - like the spam trick of buying spins, I am sure that someone has this belief because they have previously succeeded in winning through this scenario so that they put their trust and belief that that is the right way to produce victory.

Even though it is clear that in gambling, especially in the type of casino game, a method that works for you now does not mean that it will work again at a different time, in the end the victory that you managed to get before is nothing more than luck that came at the right time through the free spins you get. So don't be too serious in dedicating yourself to finding various ways that lead to producing lots of wins, you have to realize again the fact that gambling, especially casino games, is a game that really depends on luck, so my advice is to focus on various actions that lead to risk management to minimize the amount of loss and the possibility of regret.
and that time made me think, why do people like certain hockey games. and following his footsteps will not be the same as friends. and I found my identity in gambling, like betting on sports. and slot games are just a few favorites and otherwise friends who follow me can't do it. it's like an algorithm that has been adjusted by the gambling party. each member is given a special page
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