Topic: Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 12. (Read 3497 times)

In my own environment in my friendship I have many friends who gamble on slots, and they are different in their beliefs and also different in gambling. I have two friends who have similarities in gambling on slots where these two people take advantage of the bonus purchase feature, for example he gambles with a capital of around $100, when his balance has entered he will choose a game and immediately buy a bonus feature with a certain amount without any manual spins because they believe that in the end they will only lose their balance.
Not much different from my other friend, but he himself still does several manual spins by looking for a spin that he believes is the time to buy a bonus feature and the results will be good, but the funny thing is that it never makes him succeed in getting such a big win. And with others who gamble by hunting for free spins, including myself who chooses this one method rather than buying bonus features continuously.

Casino free spins are mainly not given to the gambler to be able to earn a win and make profit but a mechanism to lure him to continue with his money after having to lose all of those free spins and still with the enthusiasm to spin more further. Sometimes if the gambler gets very lucky he could still make some good profits with free spins but is usually not so. However, giving credence to what you aver about gamblers not beating themselves so hard about winning games  is an important attitude all gamblers should incorporate because when it's not your lucky moment your far fetched win will only be a near success-win ultimately leading to streaks of losses.

I'm not sure there are casinos that give their players more wins than losses, the goal of the casino is to make a profit, so they will give players more losses than wins, even though the casino often gives free spins, the results are unlikely to always be profitable for everyone like last night, where I gambled with the capital I had, honestly, in last night's gambling, it was very easy to get free spins, maybe there were five or six times I got them but the results tended to be bad, it was annoying but there was no surefire way to make free spins better. Well, in my opinion, we shouldn't try hard in gambling, because this big influence of luck is what will determine it, not with our own efforts. I'm sure no matter how hard you try, it won't guarantee that players can get a profitable win if they are not lucky, then there will be no results that can be obtained.

It all depends on the company that programmed the slot machine on the probability they have set it for gamblers to win at a particular ratio. We don't have to be all positive every time when we play slot because we must surely lose bets even though it's not often.
Gambling is meant to be fun while we keep tryinb hard to make profits increasing and updating different strategies to become more profitable. Luck is also important when we bet because that is what will determine how often we can be making profits as gamblers.

Games on free spins are still real games because we are able to withdraw the money that we have won from them later on and as long as it is above the minimum withdrawal threshold that the casino has. If there is a fake game here, then that would only be the demo games. Free spins are supposed to offer better odds than the base games due to their difficulty of appearing in our screens.

It is just that casino is still a business, so there are still plenty of times that we can get a disappointing amount from them. I see that you can easily accept a lost game. So, what is the difference of using a free spin between depositing your own money? And if we can only win big one time at our lifetime stay in the casino, then there is a clear manipulation there. We better watch out for the signs to not waste more time and money.

I won't be surprised with it, especially if it was a free game only. Free games are hard to see as well in a base game but if you are too desperate and then the game has a bonus buy feature, you can always avail it.

If someone is scared of losing their money then they shouldn't touch gambling even if their goal is only to hunt literal free games where you won't need to spend money because they can make you addicted and eventually use your own money, especially if that literal free bonus have been removed suddenly by the casinos. I've been on lots of casinos who are like that and I think their goal is only to attract and trap people. I've been a victim of it to be honest and currently I am still finding my way out.

Maybe yes, maybe no. We can't say for sure that free games/spins have a lower probability of winning compared to regular spins, because your experience may be different from other users who get the same chance to enjoy free spins, maybe they get profit, or experience the same as you. But it may be a game mechanism that randomly regulates how users can win, and we can't possibly know how slot providers design their game mechanisms since they develop them behind closed doors.

I play slot a lot, and overall, what I have learnt and have come to terms with as regards slot games is that, making anything tangible from it is simply based on how lucky the gambler is, and this does not matter whether the gambler bought they bonus spins or not.
I personally have never been lucky with with slot games even in times when I bought the bonus, as at the end of the day, I discover that either did not win anything, or I only managed to recover they money I initially spent on buying the bonus, without any profit or a very minor one.

Slot games, to me is not really a game to depend on when one is gambling and hoping to make some money, I simply play slot games for fun even though I still hope to win some money in that process.
But then, when ever I want to gamble to make money, I go for sports betting since I enjoy better luck there.

If this is the case, then we're all faking it by trying to convince ourselves -- or someone else around us that we're only into this for the outcome.
Some don't even see it as a form of entertainment; that's where the unnecessary pressure and eagerness sets in... The more you wager, the less possible it becomes to secure a single win.

What's even more pathetic is that people don't still wanna acknowledge the fact that they can't win unless it's just one of their lucky days - what's this professionalism y'all speak of then? The percentage of gamblers that  hit the big wins is the minority amongst the total population of gamblers worldwide so, who's losing more?

In fact, I think the results are often bad and that's what sometimes makes us upset or annoying, but that's not something that really needs to be a problem because it's natural for the results to end up being less profitable. Players should be able to accept the results that occur even though they are annoying, there are many cases where emotions peak when the results make us upset and this is where we are wrong where we can't control ourselves with the results that occur, as much as possible we must be able to control ourselves with the circumstances that occur the goal is to keep things okay. If the results are bad, it's not because it's unfair but it's natural, as you said, it's not just a matter of luck. Because gambling does involve luck, if it's time to be lucky, victory will occur even though we didn't expect it before that it would result in a profitable victory.

Always remember, at the end of the day, there's always house edge for a reason. So even if they offer some free rolls, in the long run, the house will always have the profit from their end. Of course, there are some winners but they won't be on the negative after the end of their promo run. Just like free games, definitely, they will be offering some good winnings but they won't go to the extent of bankruptcy.

Most casino games have the attraction that every player can get addicted of. Now, it is on the player how he will contain himself whenever he is in front of his game. Otherwise, he can easily become the slave of this activity and lose himself in the process.

Aren't those counted as part of the same RNG formula? At least that's only way it would make sense.

But i am not sure what you mean, bonus (or free) games that i've played have definitely gave most profits during my gambling, but that's why if you want to buy them as separate game, they cost more. Otherwise everyone would just play those. Winnings and winning changes are technically relative to the money you spend. That result of relativity however won't probably show in normal casual gaming.

I never buy them, because even if ratio for winning would be more or less the same, it doesn't include the slim change of getting that $160 worth of free spins with one $2 bet.

Agreed, it's hard to give an exact guarantee of winning with freespins they depend on luck. Many times it is seen that many benefits are derived from free spin based bonuses, so that players are able to improve their scores and winnings, which leads to better spins which ultimately generate coins for use after the game. Whenever the client wants to finalize their session and withdraw the momentarily earned winnings they must be bound by the frequently displayed terms and conditions thereby minimizing the risk.

Yes, maybe that's the mechanism or scenario that the casino does in changing the game algorithm by luring gamblers by showing some small wins and after gamblers start to be tempted to bet more impulsively, that's where the casino will turn things around to make it harder to win. But even though I feel that now the game is really hard to win, thousands of spins are going very badly, along with the spins I get from the free spins bonus, but I never think or research what really happened.

Because I think it's useless for me to look for various information related to what really happened so that the game runs so badly, I just think that maybe luck is really far from me, along with reducing my involvement in gambling.

So easy for them to change everything once they see many gamblers winning especially if it's just a free bet. They don't want that happening so they will have to adjust.
Just recently, I have been winning in one slot provider (not going to mention the name) which can be played in our local gambling site application and I was shocked that after the certain slot provider finished their maintenance, I cannot win a damn thing anymore. Most were just playing tag with it or losing all my balance so I deposited one more time and tried again until all my profits were taken back from me with no single resistance.
I mean I could understand that I will lose it all, but that fast is just too shocking for me and I bet the gambling site is the one behind it as they maybe saw how much players are winning in that provider.

And remember if you feels something wrong happen to you, you can stop and leave the game before that wrong thing really happen and make you lose the money. We deserve to play in any slot game and stop it immediately because we are in charge with our money and we don't want to lose huge money. That is why we don't have to think about other things that is not needed because that can disturb our focus to playing slot game.

We just let our luck comes to us and help to wins the money. If we don't wins at that time, we have the other days to returns to casino and play the other slot games. What we needs to do is just enjoy the experience and have fun when playing the game so we can fills our free time by relax with the slot game.

I could see it being really easy and convenient to change an online gambling websites coding to favor the casino. I could imagine free spins winning some small rigged bets to lure you in but once you’re hooked boom a change in the algorithm. Now nothing is for certain and I’m not saying that happens but how hard is it really for a fully online casino to make the odds a bit more in their favor??

I have never seen a free spin making a gambler to get fortunate with huge winnings. Many gamblers I have seen making money from spinning, are mostly their staked money and not from free spin. I think the free spin could have it own different algorithms that will make it very hard for gamblers to make reasonable amount of money from spinning. And also their are terms and conditions for free spin and you can not win up to a certain figure, that's in case if you are very lucky to win higher than the expected amount of money. Free spins can be worth trying but we should not be too excited about it because you can not win more than the way the game algorithm has programmed it.

Right, the point is as you said my friend that if we talk about the type of casino game then it will always depend on how lucky we are when running the session, no matter how you play, how often you play, how much capital you bring to play and also whatever scenario you experience when playing the type of game you choose, and also other things yes we really can't prove whether the game is proven fair or not, we won't be able to do anything to find evidence of it.

Therefore, this is the importance of understanding and knowing about the actual risks of the type of casino game, because when you understand and know that everything runs randomly then you shouldn't think that the game is unfair to you, and I think it's very simple that when the results of the free spins or hundreds of normal spins that run are not as you expected then that means you are unlucky.

It does not work that way because the wins are not programmed to favour you when there are many people playing or not. The algorithm is just random and at time nobody knows what the winning numbers are. Slots game are based on luck only and we should not be expecting too much from the free or bonus games. They are free and not designed for you to win big from them. These games are supposed to motivate you to continue playing by giving you small wins that makes you to think that you can win more when you wager your own money and that is how the casino make money from you because you start losing when you start staking real money. Free games are like test games and they are not the real deal. It is like when you use demo account for trading and then try using live account, the difference are always clear.

Regarding slot games, I don't really go into or find out to dig up a lot of information, especially those related to knowledge. There may be many things that I don't know, but basically this type of game is purely based on luck. As for RTP, sometimes it doesn't affect us even though it is showing a good green line. But maybe, for gamblers who are lucky they get something fun. Likewise with RNG, we don't even have or know a certain formula related to it. What I know is playing the game that I want to play, which is most often a game from PragmaticPlay. To be honest, I am the type of player who rarely buys the free spin feature. Because for me, the challenge is getting free spins. Regarding the reward, of course it cannot be ascertained. Likewise with buying with the bonus option. I speak from experience, sometimes playing slots requires much more patience. Not infrequently, from the free spins I get good hits and get quite a lot of rewards. For me, slot games are more about uncertainty than betting or other types of games. But when you are in lucky mode, you can get a jackpot or we usually call it maxwin.