Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 43. (Read 6661 times)

Addictions can manifest in various forms, spanning from smoking and drinking to even compulsively checking one's phone early in the morning, as I've personally experienced with my urge to jump into Twitter right away. When it comes to gambling, there are two distinct approaches. Successful gamblers invest their time in analyzing and selecting data, continually repeating this process as they place their bets. For them, gambling has transformed into a hobby and a means to earn income, becoming an integral part of their lives without or with minor effects of health concerns.

For failed gamblers, they can go as far as staying up all night to bet, they will repeat the process in 24/7, borrow money to gamble without realizing any benefit, it can even make them have a negative impact on their health mental and physical and they could even end up with huge debts that will ruin their relationships with the outside people and the people surrounding them, this is how gambling addiction can affect our lives.

I see the similarities with both essence in terms of interpreting this addiction, totally losing control with the situation and the after effect
is not positive at all.

Not having the right balance due to addiction will surely lead into something that will impact to your life, just like with your example, not having
that time for your family because of too much time working,

maybe you will earn success in your field, but your obligation as a father/ head of the family are the one that you are compromising.

yes, those who are successful should have better skills than others. but I believe they also spend more time and also more bets in the casino to play.
this process may show that gamblers will become addicted or that they will become well-controlled gamblers. Good gamblers know when they should place a bet and when they should leave the game.

I think there are successful professional poker players with playing skills above the average of others so they can win in many poker games.
But the games in the casino will provide the biggest profit for the casino so that even if there are gamblers who can win, their total winnings are still smaller than the casinos.
But I believe there are professional poker players who can earn money from gambling but not as much as gamblers who lose.
But those who become successful gamblers are not addicted to gambling because success means they can have more abilities than most gamblers.

I won't shy from the fact that there are people who are living on gambling, those people can't tell me they are not addicts, yet they are making their money from it. It's rare to see a successful gambler but there are some consistent winners. In my country, there are some that would suit up in the morning, while others would be in their casual wear and will only be back from the gambling house in the evening. This is what some will ever do, while some of them did it until they could gather money to start a business and still continue with their gambling.

These are examples of gambling addicts, but it's positive for them. The truth is that addiction is not always bad, it's only bad when it's becoming negative to your life.

That would be a drug addict, but I'm talking more in general.

You can be addicted to your job, and you will have a rather bad overall life because you will not be doing anything social, you will not see your family, etc.

Addiction is not a positive trait, because it means you are losing control over the things you want your life to be.

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

Hard to see an addict as a success, because an addict has no control over the thing they are addicted to.

That means that almost always it will end up bad if they keep their addiction over time.

First off, people should know that gambling addicts doesn't mean that they are the kind of person who is on the sundown of their life and is already digging their own grave because being an addict is somehow an advantage because that just mean that you've already put up the work and time towards it and with the right mindset, that factor will help you towards success. Just like famous basketball players for example, the likes of LeBron James, who is addicted to the sport of basketball. It's just that people tend to label it wrong because they don't really understand what it truly mean.

You could say there's no such thing as a successful gambler if you're ignoring genuine skill based games like poker or people doing things like card counting in blackjack. Almost every other game in a casino is geared to give the casino an advantage, which means it's impossible to make a long term profitable career out of it because simple math means that eventually your luck and bankroll will be handed over to the house. Somebody might get extremely lucky as a one off and be able to walk away up, that's the only time you might be successful otherwise.

I don't think that I have seen any successful gambler in my lifetime but it there is one then that gambler must have cheated nature by using his addiction to be successful in gambling.

Addicted people finds it difficult to be successful because they are been carried away by their emotions and will keep on chasing their loss without knowing when to stop gambling. Looking at it from the other side if the person's destiny is in gambling, then such person will have the luck to be successful in gambling.

I would consider such gambler as a pure winner rather than a gambling addict because the user is earning a substantial income from playing those games and if he/she is generating a good amount of money from gambling then it would be unfair to call such a gambler as an addict. It's a truth that as long as someone is earning from gambling and isn't overdoing it then that person is a winner, and it would be totally unfair to call him/her an addict.

If someone is really a gambling addict then that user will do anything for gambling as such people are so intensely addicted with gambling that they could literally sell their useful stuff to gain some money which they then utilize in gambling activities. Those addicts can go to any extent to enjoy gambling, and there is a chance that such addicts can also have addiction of using alcohol and other drugs, and it would be very hard for such addict to give up on their addiction.

Usually, we see gambling addicts as a failure but with a definition of a successful addict, it doesn't sound like a complete failure at all. A gambler who found his craft or someone who has found what he is good at is not a failure. As long as he can make money out of it, I guess he can live off it and be proud of it.

I wonder if there really is a successful gambling addict though because usually, they are not just addicted to gambling but also to alcohol and drugs.

Yes, obviously, a game that is successful, it cannot be denied that everyone will think that he is an addict and that is how he earns his living, being an addict in a casino, but no matter what others think, a person who makes a living betting in a casino, either in the same game or in sports betting, is not easy, you are always face to face with bankruptcy and in addition to them you must have great pressure, taking money from casino games or sports betting is something that is not easy, personally not I would dare to do something like that, maybe with trading yes, but not with games and sports betting.

There are people who do have the guts to live from games, from sports betting and I think it is a very exciting life, but I am afraid of always putting everything in danger, unless you have special capital for that is something else, we as thinking human beings must have several ways to diversify money and make money, one of those may turn out to be sports betting, which is not bad, it is a very fun way to risk money, but I urge you to lead a life only from betting Sports seems like a very reckless activity to me, the truth is, with my responsibilities I wouldn't dare, if I would like it, but I would have to have a lot of money to try a little of that life.

This is something that perhaps many of us want to have from childhood or perhaps always live, when we are children we could easily say that we would live from casinos, from trading sports bets, but seeing that it is such a dangerous activity, you must be very careful, and as I said before, those of us who have responsibilities, family, children, these things are a bit difficult to do.

And personally I think this is a bad idea even if know you are right and that is the way society judges gamblers, however we cannot judge everything in terms of money, for example there are many gamers which earned a lot of money from playing video games which have eventually revealed they were addicted to video games and they had to stay away from them for some time to recover, so we have people that despite making money eventually admitted they had issues controlling their impulses, and I do not see why gambling should be viewed any differently.

if addiction was a requisite to being a successful gambler then all gamblers would have been competing among themselves to be more addictive than the next guy!  . If I could achieve success in gambling by becoming addictive to it it then mean that all the negatives painted about addiction to gambling in the gambling discussion board are just out of ignorance. Which am not sure it is.

If addiction is described to be an attitude that can ruin a gambler's financial strength then what sort of success can a gambler possibly achieve from it?  i.e, a gambling addict can win seven figures this hour and lose it all the next day due to addiction. Is that what we can describe as success?   

No. If we were to label someone who is successful at gambling as an addict, I don't think it would make sense because I consider winning at games to be chance and someone can win at any moment without even having expectations sometimes. For this reason, I said NO. You can see, however, that we cannot label this person as an addict because someone who is new to gambling can get money that someone who has spent several weeks gaming did not get.


I don't think these have anything to do with addiction; someone can be a successful gambler without addiction, and it is not necessary to place bets frequently before winning a significant sum of money. I think someone can occasionally place bets and win big money without becoming addicted because I think there are successful gamblers who are not addicts. Those who use gambling as a regular activity or as a means of income are at danger of developing a gambling addiction.

Exactly, it's true that before you can achieve you needed to spend more time and money to execute whatever strategy you have
to win decently, only a lucky gambler can hit a jackpot in a onetime shot.

And for sure, it's not always or not a usual thing that we will see inside gambling house, but those successful gamblers, they spent
money and not just money, but a decent amount of money to keep pushing.

With the knowledge that they've learned and the control that they've possessed, now they are enjoying the benefits.

Somehow this is the real case here since if we look back the activities they participated with for sure they go thru many troubles and a lot of money has been lost on earliest of their career. If they never play to much well maybe we cannot see those successful gamblers succeed on their careers and we will never see some of them became famous since for sure they might quit because they are in control then also cannot afford to lose huge if they discipline their selves toward gambling.

Yes, but the fact is that most of the addicts that we see before getting a big win, usually they first fall into poverty, they won't even get that big win, so that's the toughness of being an addict because it's not as easy as one might imagine, that they keep hoping that in the last game they will get a big win. or the jackpot but in the end losing frustrates them.

For me there is a sports betting addict who might find a win because he will learn from his experience, but it's different from a gambling addict who plays casino games because it's difficult to beat the house, it's impossible for the house to give big wins to its users. they are more concerned with getting money from their users