Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 40. (Read 6617 times)

How does a successful gambler makes a goal into action?, it's all based on probabilities, and the casino has better odds.

There's no way a gambler can control the probabilities, they can at most maximize their chances, but that's it.

This makes sense.

To be a successful gambler, of course you have to play and bet consecutively and if not, just actively, to reach whatever goal you have in mind. Just like being a gambling addict, consecutive plays and bets are done because of gambling dependency. Only that they have lost track of what they are really after or what they sought for in the very beginning. But when it comes to frequency of bets and plays, I think there's not much difference.

The only difference is that a gambler that is successful knows his goal, how to achieve it, and make it into action. He does not make unnecessary acts such as overspending to chase winnings. Unlike what gambling addicts do most of the time. A successful gambler makes a calculated decision, while a gambling addicts just go with whatever they deem fit.

I don't think so, based on the terms it seem successful gambler is someone who's making money through gambling while an addict is someone who's keep losing his money including the money that should be used for food, bill, monthly need etc.

A successful gambler should have spend a lot time in gambling similar like an addict, but the result between both of them are completely different.

Before you play gambling, you must have self-control because, without strong self-control, you cannot pull yourself out of gambling on time. You will only spend all the remaining money when you don't know whether you can win or keep losing. After you can make sure you have strong self-control, you can start betting with the minimum bet you can so that if you lose, the loss won't be big. And if you've been playing for a while and still losing, perhaps you should stop and take a break, but there's not much you can do about it. They tend to continue playing gambling instead of resting, which can lead to other losses.

I don't think there are any kind of rules that you can follow and become a successful gambler in terms of winning more than what you have lost over your gambling lifetime.

It's all really just luck, and the odds are against the gambler.

So, even if a gambler is an addict, there is still a slim, almost zero, chance that that gambler will win big.

Your strategy in gambling is very good. I am interested in what you describe, maybe very few people are able to carry out a gambling strategy like what you said. In my opinion, in gambling we have to be prepared for what we are risking, whether we win or lose, if we gamble for fun then it will be better because there is very little chance of winning in gambling.

I am not sure whether a gambling addict can ever become a successful gambler. In order to be successful in gambling, you need to follow strict rules for yourselves. First of all, bet as much as you can afford to lose. And after betting, you need to follow strict stop-loss guidelines. You need to pullout when it becomes clear that the losses are getting unaffordable. Gambling addicts are unable to follow any of these rules, and this results in their financial ruin. And if you don't follow these rules, I don't think that you will ever become successful in gambling.

I can't agree with this. A successful gambler for me is someone who was able changing his life to be even better through gambling. Winning gamble at the first time can't be considered as a successful gambling. Winning the jackpot once is just the beginning, the real challenge is whether he can continue to win it for a second or third time. It's also depend on how big the prize already won by that gambler too. Success in gambling is not just about winning money, it's about making significant changes in one's life through gambling, which is why I do not consider someone who has only won a small amount of money as a successful gambler. He needs to prove his consistently in the gambling. That's why a successful gambler has become addicted to the gambling caused by he was regularly playing it.

If he can't control himself in the next gambling game well, he can become addicted in the long term. But if he could do that, he would be fine and be able to enjoy his gambling. But getting a big multiplier is a sensation that we will never forget and will probably continue to tell about it to anyone. But it's rare for a beginner to get a big multiplier because maybe most beginners can win a decent amount of money from their first game and the next game won't always be able to win and can even get a loss. And a successful gambler is a gambler who can control himself in gambling and I think it's not about how much money he can make but more to control himself in gambling to avoid gambling addiction.

Yes, you definitely need to be lucky to get any kind of money from the casino.

Having said that, there is a clear difference between a person that gambles at a game where the odds are 80/20 against them, and someone that gambles at a games where the odds are 55/45 against them.

Sure, in both scenarios the casino has an advantage, but the second person clearly is more skilled at gambling. Both need luck, but the second person will clearly have more chances.

If someone who gambles for the first time can win some money and be considered a successful gambler, they must deal with the confidence that will build up and cause them to be overconfident to go the next round. They must know that in the next round, they cannot or find it difficult to win the game again because maybe their luck has run away. And it is from continuing to play that novice gamblers can become gambling addicts, especially if they don't have self-control in gambling. And things will become worse when they gamble even more and only lose more than before. But if they can control themselves in gambling, especially when they win, they can stop and withdraw their money. Maybe they can become successful gamblers in the future.

I will say no, an addicted gamblers is someone who gambles at series of time and I believe that someone will gamble at first time and win gambling and at that point the person is a successful gambler, what makes someone to be successful gamblers is not constant or a consistent participation in gambling, an addicted gambler is someone who is gambling frequently so I believe that this two different things are of different points and we don't need to consider a successful gambler as a gambling addiction, so I believe that this information should be taken down

One thing I've come to understand about this gambling of a thing Is that, there are people who are have spend both time and energy including money they make daily profit and have made a fortune out of gambling, also there are others who have spent both time and energy and have had numerous loses than gain and still continue playing to try recover their lose or earn a fortune as well the difference between these two people is success and that has answered it all because so far you're successful in gambling it means that firstly you understand the risk management behind it and applied it with good strategies time and effort to gain profit, whereas that's one thing the unsuccessful gambler lack and they'll want to play gradually to try win which is where the addiction comes in, there's no gambler who doesn't suffer lose at a point but a good gamble knows when to pause, also know when to apply strategies that would reduce risk, I believe that so far you're successful in gambling you stand a good chance to be free from addiction.

I very much agree with your input, prolonged gambling does not make one an addicted gambler, if prolonged gambling equaled to being addicted to gambling , then someone like me will probably be addicted to gambling by now, I mean, I started gambling since since 2015 or so, though I started out as an occasional gambler, I played as an occasional gambler for quit a long time, initially, i was going to take gambling really serious back then when my mind was simply focused on making money off, but after losing a couple of dollars and learning a lesson the hard way, that is understanding that gambling can never be a reliable source of income, i withdrew for some time, and started gambling occasionally and most for just having fun till this day..

So, that someone has been gambling for a long time does not necessarily mean that that person is addicted.

Of course it does. Many of us wants to be successful because that can also means that we are profitable. Successful gamblers does devote a lot of time in gambling in order to improve their skills but it does not mean that they are also an addict. You can't be an addict and successful at the same time. Being successful means you have a discipline to your self. You stop after a couple of hours of practicing in order to relax your mind and body. You are also doing other things that a normal person does. I believe that newbies in gambling don't think about the profit but they only want to get entertained. It was the veteran gamblers who take gambling seriously.

Definitely, 100% without a doubt. Because "successful" gambler doesn't exist, "so far successful gambler" exists. I do not care who you are, if you are gambling and keep on gambling you are going to lose your money and what you are doing right now is only there because you want to make sure you can profit from it.

I believe that people who gamble should see it as addiction, I see it as an addiction that I am trying to keep under control and that's going to really matter a lot for sure. The best thing to do right now is that we could make sure that we can either avoid it, or control it and do not go full all-in with it. Hopefully that's going to matter a lot one day and we could do something that will do better eventually.

Would you call a lottery winner of a jackpot that that person just bet on? It is not classified as an addiction if you are just based on winning a lot of money because you can win a lot of money in gambling one time, but if you spend most of your time in gambling and you can't get away from the casino, then that is really defined as an addiction because you can't control your urge to gamble, which means you are really into gambling and nothing else. The effects are really bad, as you've mentioned, and that is really brought on by addiction. No matter if you are successful or not, it is always an addiction that is bad for you and the people around you.

It doesn't matter whether the gambler is successful or not but those who devote extra time to gambling become addicted. When a person first starts gambling, his only concern is how to win the bet. Gamblers first invest their money in various betting sites where they spend extra time and concentrate on gambling leaving all other activities. In that case we can definitely call those people gambling addicts because they spend most of their time on these betting sites. A wise person will never get addicted to gambling by investing his money in a betting site and abandoning his family activities but a person who doesn't understand anything but gambling gets addicted. So I think I would classify a successful investor as a gambling addict if he gambles and wins a lot of money.

The important is that every gambler can manage his emotions when playing gambling to keep himself away from gambling addiction. And it's true that maybe it can make him successful at gambling, but of course, it takes time and stuff. But as a wise gamblers, we don't need to reach a successful gambler because we don't know what challenges we will face. It's better to be an average gambler who can gamble freely without worrying about losing money because we can manage our emotions well.

Indeed some gamblers are like that, but if we want to be like that gambler, we need effort and hard work, which I'm not sure many gamblers can. Many gamblers cannot resist the temptation to play gambling, and we have seen many concrete examples of gamblers who lost quite a lot and a lot of money. And the house is the one that earns the most money from the gamblers, that even the most successful gamblers cannot make as much money as the house.

From there, we can see which one we should choose. And I don't think we need to select both, especially if we still lack self-control while playing gambling. We must learn to control ourselves so we don't become addicted to gambling, and we also don't need to be successful gamblers because we only use gambling as entertainment that costs money. And gambling is enough to harm humans, but that doesn't make people stop gambling because they see that there are still people who can win a lot of money from gambling.