Topic: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 - page 5. (Read 7683 times)
December 30, 2020, 01:41:52 AM
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How did you arrive at the conclusion it's not thermal throttling?
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Cause the core clock drops to 930 mhz as soon as the memory is above +400 . Card temp hovers around 45-50c.
When a card thermal throttles it at least gets high enough to produce heat , my trio x does not even achieve that.
I experienced today my friend xc3 ultra thermal throttling and its not at all how my card behaves . His card hit 99mhs and stayed there for 5 min before throttling and crumbling down to 85 mh while temps were reaching 70C.
Pretty sure its a power limit issue . Some have fixed that by flashing the bios with a different brand bios with higher power limit .
December 29, 2020, 09:39:13 PM
Came to the conclusion that my trio x is not thermal throttling . This card is not even able to ho above +400 mem . Anything over that and it throttles . I don’t know if it’s fixable with a bios update from msi or maybe flashing the suprim bios .
I’m waiting on a strix and then selling this horrible card . Never again MSI .
I just build a pc for my friend and he got the evga xc3 ultra , was able to reach 99.7 mhs before it started throttling . My POS card can’t even get to thermal throttling .
My friend would benefit from your fan setup .
How did you arrive at the conclusion it's not thermal throttling?
December 29, 2020, 09:36:15 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/2ONFgGw
Here are photos of my build.
And it's possible to have it in a case.
I just bought 2 Noctua Slim fan (Height 150mm vs 250mm for regular fans) to reduce the space and being able to use my first PCI-E slot without having the fans being blocked by my DDR4 slots.
So the second PCI-E slot one can be used with my old GTX 1060 and also mine while not gaming.
If you have only one graphic card, you can use this in the second PCI-E without trouble.
The fan are running @40%, so I can't even heard them. But the air flow is enough to get rid of the thermal throttling.
I'm mining with a stable 111-112MH/s @82% Powerlimit
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Came to the conclusion that my trio x is not thermal throttling . This card is not even able to ho above +400 mem . Anything over that and it throttles . I don’t know if it’s fixable with a bios update from msi or maybe flashing the suprim bios .
I’m waiting on a strix and then selling this horrible card . Never again MSI .
I just build a pc for my friend and he got the evga xc3 ultra , was able to reach 99.7 mhs before it started throttling . My POS card can’t even get to thermal throttling .
My friend would benefit from your fan setup .
December 29, 2020, 04:52:12 AM
I can totally agree that 3080 and 3090 have cooling issues with standard GPU fan.
My 3090 was not able to push more than 90 MH/s (after decreasing from 110MH/s) because it was thermal throttling (gou-z perfcap reason)
I just create a Backplate cooler with 2 12cm fan I "glued" on the Backplate.
Now my GPU is much cooler in game and I can mine at 112 MH/s +500 mem (10000 Mhz mem) and stock core for 286W reported in miner.
It's great.
Also Red Panda Miner has a video were he add thermal pads on the Backplate to get rid of the thermal throttling on his 3080.
My 3090 was not able to push more than 90 MH/s (after decreasing from 110MH/s) because it was thermal throttling (gou-z perfcap reason)
I just create a Backplate cooler with 2 12cm fan I "glued" on the Backplate.
Now my GPU is much cooler in game and I can mine at 112 MH/s +500 mem (10000 Mhz mem) and stock core for 286W reported in miner.
It's great.
Also Red Panda Miner has a video were he add thermal pads on the Backplate to get rid of the thermal throttling on his 3080.
Thats simple enough to try . Is one of ur fans shooting air on the poscaps or both are on the backplate cover ?
Should post a pic for anyone who wants to give it a try
https://imgur.com/a/2ONFgGw
Here are photos of my build.
And it's possible to have it in a case.
I just bought 2 Noctua Slim fan (Height 150mm vs 250mm for regular fans) to reduce the space and being able to use my first PCI-E slot without having the fans being blocked by my DDR4 slots.
So the second PCI-E slot one can be used with my old GTX 1060 and also mine while not gaming.
If you have only one graphic card, you can use this in the second PCI-E without trouble.
The fan are running @40%, so I can't even heard them. But the air flow is enough to get rid of the thermal throttling.
I'm mining with a stable 111-112MH/s @82% Powerlimit
December 28, 2020, 12:28:26 PM
hey guys,
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
I have heard of your issue and have yet to see a fix for it.
Maybe some one has a fix and can help out.
I'm seen this on several systems... it occurs about 50% of the time. on the systems that it occurs on they are hooked to the monintor. the quick fix is i don't plug the monitor into the 30x0 series card, i put a amd 5700 card in that computer and plug the monitor into the amd card and the nvidia 30x0 card will hash fine. I have two computers that have the monitor plugged into the 30x0 card and have no issues mining while on the computer. one is a single 3080 and the other is a dual 3070. i haven't figure out yet why with difference. these systems have 4k monitors hooked up to them and running windows10... that's the only commonality among them.
December 28, 2020, 11:31:44 AM
hey guys,
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
I have heard of your issue and have yet to see a fix for it.
Maybe some one has a fix and can help out.
December 28, 2020, 05:16:52 AM
hey guys,
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
I´m using phoenixminer on my win10 gaming machine to mine with my 3060 when I dont game. Is it possible to adjust ONE core clock via msi afterburner or phoenixminer command line?
every time I use my pc while it´s mining and browse some sites or check mails, my clock goes up and down and if I´m done I have totally different clocks. most time, when I start mining after reboot it´s 1200 mhz and 57 mhash. but then it´s 1500 mhz and hashrate drops to 54 or 53. sometimes I have 1830 which is maximum.....tdp is always 50 %, but clock goes up and down and mhash too
if I restart the miner it sometimes helps....but I get different clocks every time...it´s lottery to get 57 mhash...any idea?
with my old 2070s that was no problem at all...you could do some work and if you´re done the miner goes up to the maximum hashrate automatically.
December 27, 2020, 06:00:19 AM
The 3080ti will have a 320-bit memory bus like the 3080.. So expect similar hash rates to 3080.
yeah, it's funny because is TI, 3060ti implies same bit memory as 3070, 3080ti should have the same bit memory as 3090 and its not, so what we see is that 3080ti is a lie. If the 3070ti has the same bit memory than the 3080 and is $100 cheaper then 3070ti could be a winner on eth.
Except the fact GDDR6X on 3070TI and 3080TI runs too hot on memory intensive algos like eth, especially if OC
December 27, 2020, 05:42:09 AM
The 3080ti will have a 320-bit memory bus like the 3080.. So expect similar hash rates to 3080.
yeah, it's funny because is TI, 3060ti implies same bit memory as 3070, 3080ti should have the same bit memory as 3090 and its not, so what we see is that 3080ti is a lie. If the 3070ti has the same bit memory than the 3080 and is $100 cheaper then 3070ti could be a winner on eth.
December 27, 2020, 05:05:34 AM
The 3080ti will have a 320-bit memory bus like the 3080.. So expect similar hash rates to 3080.
December 27, 2020, 04:51:39 AM
for this gpu to be worthwhile, it had to be 170 mhs or more, nvidia could have done it, decided not to.
That belongs to the 3060ti hashing at 66mh/s at 125watts which is even better than the 5700xt cards were doing.
Those were the king of hashrate for a while until these ti cards came along.
Maybe the 3080ti will do 170mh/s mark you are saying to be worth it to mine with. As they were announced to be between the 3090 and the 3080 in performance but not costing as much for the 3090 at a price tag of $1499 MSRP.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090
3060ti at 66.. how many secs?
In the real world 62
December 27, 2020, 04:35:15 AM
for this gpu to be worthwhile, it had to be 170 mhs or more, nvidia could have done it, decided not to.
That belongs to the 3060ti hashing at 66mh/s at 125watts which is even better than the 5700xt cards were doing.
Those were the king of hashrate for a while until these ti cards came along.
Maybe the 3080ti will do 170mh/s mark you are saying to be worth it to mine with. As they were announced to be between the 3090 and the 3080 in performance but not costing as much for the 3090 at a price tag of $1499 MSRP.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090
66mhs@125W ? oO
I can do nothing more than 63mhs@130W (PL 55%) with my 3060ti TrioX
December 26, 2020, 09:24:35 PM
for this gpu to be worthwhile, it had to be 170 mhs or more, nvidia could have done it, decided not to.
That belongs to the 3060ti hashing at 66mh/s at 125watts which is even better than the 5700xt cards were doing.
Those were the king of hashrate for a while until these ti cards came along.
Maybe the 3080ti will do 170mh/s mark you are saying to be worth it to mine with. As they were announced to be between the 3090 and the 3080 in performance but not costing as much for the 3090 at a price tag of $1499 MSRP.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090
December 26, 2020, 08:17:01 PM
I have a problem with running 2 3060ti on a b250 mbo, with the newest driver the rig works for a random time between 2 to 8 hours then bsod and when it restarts the gpus are not recognized by the system until full shutdown, i set gen1 in the mbo 4g decoding and even c3 state off, blue screen is the nvidia driver dll, tried ddu a few times and reinstall, tried the next lower version driver, changed to a different mbo cpu ram setup..nothing seems to help. I built around 10 amd rigs and i could set them up in a day or two, this thing im trying for a week now. Thanks in advance
nvidia driver might be the issue. There is a hotfix on nvidia website.
December 26, 2020, 08:10:57 PM
I have a problem with running 2 3060ti on a b250 mbo, with the newest driver the rig works for a random time between 2 to 8 hours then bsod and when it restarts the gpus are not recognized by the system until full shutdown, i set gen1 in the mbo 4g decoding and even c3 state off, blue screen is the nvidia driver dll, tried ddu a few times and reinstall, tried the next lower version driver, changed to a different mbo cpu ram setup..nothing seems to help. I built around 10 amd rigs and i could set them up in a day or two, this thing im trying for a week now. Thanks in advance
December 26, 2020, 04:15:24 AM
What about memory temps on 3090 ?
I heard GDDR6X warms a lot.
Maybe mining an other algo less mem intensive would be better for 'memory life' ?
I heard GDDR6X warms a lot.
Maybe mining an other algo less mem intensive would be better for 'memory life' ?
December 25, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4k3iJgIho
you tube video above
below older setup
here is the 3080 running on the other test rig. I did this first before the video was shot.
281 watts to do 94 mh but the psu is bronze and that counts whole mobo
same evga 3080 and same fan as the video
December 25, 2020, 09:53:25 PM
@philipma1957,
Nice video !!
Other post above here updated
Nice video !!
Other post above here updated
December 25, 2020, 07:40:42 PM
power use is way too high for that hash ,3060ti and 5700 are better
December 25, 2020, 02:45:21 PM
yeah i do this with my three 3080 gpus
I see you have RTX 3080. I have bought my first RTX 3080.
I use HiveOS latest version with NVIDIA driver 455. Could you tell me your oc setting please ?
The hashrate isnt stable. It changes al lthe time. Do you have any idea about it ?
98.97 MH/s, 98,88 MH/s, 98.94 MH/s,CORE -502, MEM 2300, PL 230
99.21 MH/s, 99,07 MH/s, 99,11 MH/s, CORE -502, MEM 2500, PL 230
99.58 MH/s, 99.24 MH/s, 99.05 MH/s, CORE -502, MEM 2450, PL 230
99.33 MH/s, 99.26 MH/s, 99.19MH/s, CORE -502, MEM 2400, PL 230
99.33 MH/s, 99.18 MH/s, 99.11 MH/s, CORE -502, MEM 2350, PL 230
I have one on my test rig
I will post screen shots of simple miner in a bit
core 100
memory 1400
power 220
temp 65
fan 71
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