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January 29, 2024, 06:17:56 AM
Even though Indonesia lost badly to Australia, I saw that the performance of the Indonesian national team in that match showed the development of the game. I appreciate the performance of the Indonesian National Team. In terms of ball control, it is better than the three matches in the group stage.

In this match, the players were braver in playing and holding the ball. Indonesian players also put pressure on Australia, who did not play like Iraq and Japan. However, the improvement in the game was not accompanied by a good strategy carried out by Shin Tae-yong. However, it must be acknowledged that Australia is superior in all aspects to Indonesia. In terms of quality, Australia is ranked much better in FIFA than Indonesia. Apart from that, the Australian players also have superior experience to the Indonesian players.

However, regardless of the results, as an Indonesian I should give appreciation to the players who have performed optimally on the field and have given their best for Indonesia even though they failed to advance to the quarter-finals.
You have the same observations as me regarding the Indonesian national team's performance against Australia. Because even in that match, Indonesia actually put pressure on the Australian defence. Unfortunately, the Indonesian players wasted a lot of opportunities that they got. Even though the attacks built by the Indonesian national team were also very good. It's just that the accuracy of the passes from Indonesian players has indeed improved a lot. But unfortunately their shooting accuracy is really bad. And the kicking power of the Indonesian players is also not as hard as the kicks of the Australian players. But I am also still proud of Indonesia in the match. Because they have indeed played better than before. It's just the accuracy of their attacks that might need to be improved. But 4 years from now when the AFC Asian cup is held again and if Indonesia qualifies then I think by then Indonesia can be better. Especially if the current players are still retained until then.
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January 29, 2024, 04:11:32 AM
Half Time: Australia vs Indonesia

Australia has won 2-0. 1 goal because of OG Baggott and Australia's second goal came in the 45th minute, the final minute of the first half.
The Indonesian team played well even though Indonesia was 2-0 behind. The game against Australia was better than when played in the last match against Japan.

In the second half Indonesia had to improve its attacking pattern. Playing long passes is not a solution because the Australian players have a much larger body size than the Indonesian team players.
In my opinion, the courage of the Indonesian players to take shots is good. Anticipation when they lose the ball must be improved again.
There is still a chance for Indonesia to score a goal if I look at Indonesia's game in the first half.
Indonesia had to accept 4 - 0 defeat to Australia and they had to be able to accept the fact that they were returning home early from the AFC competition, this was the umpteenth failure and Indonesia had to be able to learn from failures like this.
Now Australia can easily qualify to enter the quarter-finals and only need to wait for the completion of all the top 16 matches to be able to see the next schedule for the quarter-finals.

But this defeat really made many Indonesians feel sad and they felt disappointed because Indonesia had wasted golden opportunity to enter the top 16.
It just that Australia is not weak team and can easily be beaten, this defeat should have happened and it could have been predicted from the start that Indonesia would definitely come under pressure that would make things difficult for them.
Even though Indonesia lost badly to Australia, I saw that the performance of the Indonesian national team in that match showed the development of the game. I appreciate the performance of the Indonesian National Team. In terms of ball control, it is better than the three matches in the group stage.

In this match, the players were braver in playing and holding the ball. Indonesian players also put pressure on Australia, who did not play like Iraq and Japan. However, the improvement in the game was not accompanied by a good strategy carried out by Shin Tae-yong. However, it must be acknowledged that Australia is superior in all aspects to Indonesia. In terms of quality, Australia is ranked much better in FIFA than Indonesia. Apart from that, the Australian players also have superior experience to the Indonesian players.

However, regardless of the results, as an Indonesian I should give appreciation to the players who have performed optimally on the field and have given their best for Indonesia even though they failed to advance to the quarter-finals.
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January 29, 2024, 01:44:15 AM
Half Time: Australia vs Indonesia

Australia has won 2-0. 1 goal because of OG Baggott and Australia's second goal came in the 45th minute, the final minute of the first half.
The Indonesian team played well even though Indonesia was 2-0 behind. The game against Australia was better than when played in the last match against Japan.

In the second half Indonesia had to improve its attacking pattern. Playing long passes is not a solution because the Australian players have a much larger body size than the Indonesian team players.
In my opinion, the courage of the Indonesian players to take shots is good. Anticipation when they lose the ball must be improved again.
There is still a chance for Indonesia to score a goal if I look at Indonesia's game in the first half.
Indonesia had to accept 4 - 0 defeat to Australia and they had to be able to accept the fact that they were returning home early from the AFC competition, this was the umpteenth failure and Indonesia had to be able to learn from failures like this.
Now Australia can easily qualify to enter the quarter-finals and only need to wait for the completion of all the top 16 matches to be able to see the next schedule for the quarter-finals.

But this defeat really made many Indonesians feel sad and they felt disappointed because Indonesia had wasted golden opportunity to enter the top 16.
It just that Australia is not weak team and can easily be beaten, this defeat should have happened and it could have been predicted from the start that Indonesia would definitely come under pressure that would make things difficult for them.
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January 28, 2024, 12:47:27 PM
Grin Grin Grin Glory Indonesia hahahha

And yes we lose against Japan I know this gonna be hard, Indonesia 1 - 3 for Japan but our country is still qualified for the next round and this round we gonna play with Australia and same as Japan I don't know we are gonna win or not


But Indonesia Must win this time I just knew it  Cheesy

Indonesia's journey is over being the first team eliminated, it doesn't matter because we know who the opponents are, Australia really played optimally and didn't give Indonesian players a chance to attack of the 5 shot attempts, only one was on target. Even though Australia won today, their position is not yet safe because Saudi Arabia or Japan will be their next opponents and if Australia can beat one of them then Australia has a big chance of becoming champion. Tajikistan is playing and leads by one goal, less than 10 minutes this game will be over and Tajikistan looks to take their place in the next round.
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January 28, 2024, 09:54:41 AM
Indonesia journey have done at this competition because they were lost 4-0 from Australia and indeed this result is predictable because previously Indonesia has poor records from Australia and it's hard for them to gets the winning result from this match but although Indonesia lost today but they had just make a history and after this result Australia upcoming opponent is between South Korea or Arab Saudi and both teams will fight Tuesday and on the paper South Korea is the favourite

If i am not mistaken this is the first time for Tajikistan to playing at this tournament but i think they have very good achievement because Tajikistan can able to advances to the round of 16 but they will gets strong opponent UAE and actually UAE is semifinalist from the previous tournament because at that time they can advances to the semifinal after beat Australia on quarterfinal but on the semifinal match UAE was lost with big scores from Qatar however their last meeting was happened on March last year at that time both teams only playing draw and my prediction is this match will be so tight but i feel like UAE will be the winner of this match
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January 28, 2024, 09:18:10 AM
Actually Indonesia started the game really well, I did not even expect that they can play like that in the first 10 minutes before the 1st goal by Australia.
Of course experience and quality shows that Australia is a better and bigger team than Indonesia but big respect to Indonesian team because they could show something, although the final score is 4-0 but it was not that easy win for Australia IMO.
I can say that the performance in this match is the best performance of Indonesia in the Asian Cup.
A lot of things need to be improved absolutely, hopefully Shin Tae Yong will stay long as the coach because it is proven that he is doing great so far.
I don't think with started the games really is necessary because Indonesian team less made attempt for scoring goals, I think very bad with game play from Indonesia team because not shots on target and most passes or ball controlling in their defense area. After conceded two goals on the first half, Indonesia start bad game on second half without focus how to make attacking and scoring goals as possibility until Australia scored another two goals in last minutes.
Gave over for Indonesian journey in AFC Asian Cup 2023, nothing special with their performance won 1 of 4 games and conceded 10 goals. I hope Indonesia football federation have evaluate with STY as manager because Indonesia performance in AFC Asian Cup not really special yet.
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January 28, 2024, 09:15:22 AM
However, Indonesia has done its best in the last 16 of the Asian Cup and a crushing 4-0 defeat without reply feels natural considering the difference in strength between the two teams is very large. I have no expectations other than defeat for Indonesia and indeed Australia proved that they are still above Indonesia through this match. Australia often pressed dangerous opportunities which in the end resulted in a lot of goals and even before the match ended Australia scored 2 quick goals while burying Indonesia's hopes.

However, apart from all that, Indonesia was actually quite pressing and repeatedly had opportunities but unfortunately their finishing was very poor. I think that Indonesia's elimination in Asia's biggest competition can provide a lot of lessons because the teams in Asia are very strong and as the only team that is not favored at all, it can advance to the round of 16, this is all a good achievement.
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January 28, 2024, 09:01:04 AM
As I said to you pals, Australia is better than Indonesia from what I saw in the group stage without counting the general performance and results before this competition.
I didn't want to predict the number of goals because I was expecting some resistance from Indonesia but that resistance didn't last for more than 12 minutes before the first goal scored and right now Australia is leading with 4 goals to 0.
I did want to see your country advancing for real but Indonesia national team lack experience. I hope they get better in the future and improve their rank in the World Cup Qualifiers group stage since they are the last one.

Actually Indonesia started the game really well, I did not even expect that they can play like that in the first 10 minutes before the 1st goal by Australia.
Of course experience and quality shows that Australia is a better and bigger team than Indonesia but big respect to Indonesian team because they could show something, although the final score is 4-0 but it was not that easy win for Australia IMO.
I can say that the performance in this match is the best performance of Indonesia in the Asian Cup.
A lot of things need to be improved absolutely, hopefully Shin Tae Yong will stay long as the coach because it is proven that he is doing great so far.


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January 28, 2024, 08:27:17 AM
I saw Indonesia playing and when we compare them to Australia then I find Australia better and I am almost sure they will pass to the Quarter-final.
I will go with Indonesia +2 Grin I think nothing can be underestimated while in round 16.
However, as an Indonesian citizen, I also still hope that there will be a miracle for Indonesia, because I believe that in football nothing is impossible. Especially for Indonesia, this match is not a burden for them because now their target of entering the last 16 has been achieved, and they have made new history by being able to qualify for the last 16 for the first time. In this way, their enthusiasm and mentality will continue to burn, so I also want to bet and choose Indonesia with a +2 Handicap because the atmosphere in the round of 16 matches will definitely be different.

As I said to you pals, Australia is better than Indonesia from what I saw in the group stage without counting the general performance and results before this competition.
I didn't want to predict the number of goals because I was expecting some resistance from Indonesia but that resistance didn't last for more than 12 minutes before the first goal scored and right now Australia is leading with 4 goals to 0.
I did want to see your country advancing for real but Indonesia national team lack experience. I hope they get better in the future and improve their rank in the World Cup Qualifiers group stage since they are the last one.
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January 28, 2024, 07:25:43 AM
Half Time: Australia vs Indonesia

Australia has won 2-0. 1 goal because of OG Baggott and Australia's second goal came in the 45th minute, the final minute of the first half.
The Indonesian team played well even though Indonesia was 2-0 behind. The game against Australia was better than when played in the last match against Japan.

In the second half Indonesia had to improve its attacking pattern. Playing long passes is not a solution because the Australian players have a much larger body size than the Indonesian team players.
In my opinion, the courage of the Indonesian players to take shots is good. Anticipation when they lose the ball must be improved again.
There is still a chance for Indonesia to score a goal if I look at Indonesia's game in the first half.
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January 28, 2024, 05:00:22 AM
With the current conditions, the difference in rankings can already give an idea of the game conditions later. Although I also still hope that Indonesia can play a short ball with a diamond or triangle pattern. Some matches I saw Indonesia build attacks from the bottom but the midfielders were not in a close position. Their distance is quite far. Maybe STY can evaluate this problem later. They can imitate Japan, with the same posture conditions Japan is able to play effectively short with a very good pattern. The basic ability to read the conditions of Indonesian players still needs a lot of learning. At least they don't make their own mistakes.
Currently, Indonesia achieve more than they deserve in this event because still for me, they were not good enough but now have chance to play into round of 16 against team like Australia which is having good ranking and Indonesia is no near 100 which is clearly giving all how things will be with now it's time for them to bring revolutionary changes into their system and also increase quality of the domestic clubs which are important for having better quality and consistency at the national level.

If they are able to bring better structure which will help for grooming players and also sending them to bigger leagues then surely they can achieve better results and money as well but this all needed good work and solid strategy which is never been easy but still possible because they are having good fan base and things are also favourable for them to develop this game.
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January 28, 2024, 03:01:09 AM
Good luck to the Indonesian national team
Whatever the result, fight!!


I can't wait to see today's game. I saw the history of the national team from my school until today. With the development I have seen this year is the best team I have ever seen, so there are high hopes for Indonesia to surprise many big countries. I am more optimistic that Indonesia is making things difficult for Australia today. The best hope is that Indonesia qualifies for the top 8 to meet South Korea. But getting Australia all the way to extra time and penalties is already very proud. At least Indonesia will get some points for the world ranking. I was actually waiting for two players to play, Sananta and Pattynama.
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January 28, 2024, 02:11:33 AM
And yes we lose against Japan I know this gonna be hard, Indonesia 1 - 3 for Japan but our country is still qualified for the next round and this round we gonna play with Australia and same as Japan I don't know we are gonna win or not
It will hard game for our National team to beat Australia but there is always a chance although it is just small chance. We are lucky enough to qualify because Oman failed to win against Kyrgiztan so we get the last spot as the best 3rd rank team. Otherwise, if Oman won the last match then we will not go in the play-off match. STY needs to get the best lineups and strategy for today match against Australia. At least not to let Australia win the match easily. However what will be the result today, I still proud of what they did in the group stage.
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January 28, 2024, 02:07:09 AM
Latest conference before facing Australia, STY have predict with Indonesian team chance around 30% and Australia has 70% possibilities for winning the match, I don't think strategy from STY to make Australia team over confidence or he talking about less chance for Indonesia get qualify to quarter final round. Current FIFA World ranking, very gap difference between Indonesian teams who in 145 and Australian on the top 25 standings position.
For the tomorrow match, Indonesia have make high pressure and prefer for playing with short pass without using long pass because Asutralia have better high physical than Indonesia team. however I am optimistic with Indonesia team get chance for winning this match and brave for pressure Australian on the first minutes.

STY is low low-profile.
Based on the statistics and FIFA rankings, Indonesia is far behind, but the target of the top 16 has been achieved.
Indonesia has nothing to lose. This will allow the players to bring out their best abilities.
Indonesia played a beautiful and captivating match against Japan, and Japan had to bring in all its best players to beat the team ranked 147th. This is proof that Indonesia does have potential.
And Indonesia must focus on the first 10 minutes and when entering injury time.

Good luck to the Indonesian national team
Whatever the result, fight!!
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January 28, 2024, 01:08:26 AM



Today, Tajikistan and United Arab Emirates are going to play a lot of competitive games. Between these two teams I support United Arab Emirates, they are hardworking players and definitely think it is possible to win this match today. Tajikistan did not perform well in the Asia Cup, but if they can perform well enough today, it is definitely possible for one of the two teams to win.
Tajikistan and UAE are going to meet for the third time today. In the last two appearances, UAE have won once, the other match has been a draw. According to the ranking position, the United Arab Emirates is much ahead of Tajikistan. Tajikistan is currently in good form, I think both teams will score, judging by the performance of the team, I think UAE can win this match. My prediction is UAE to beat Tajikistan 3-1.
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January 27, 2024, 11:55:37 PM



Today, Tajikistan and United Arab Emirates are going to play a lot of competitive games. Between these two teams I support United Arab Emirates, they are hardworking players and definitely think it is possible to win this match today. Tajikistan did not perform well in the Asia Cup, but if they can perform well enough today, it is definitely possible for one of the two teams to win.
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January 27, 2024, 09:18:46 PM
Indonesia's chances of qualifying for the next phase are quite large.
I hope Indonesia win because I just want to see my country win while Im still alive hahahha.

But it will be hard after the vietnam we must face japan and tbh it gonna be hard  
I also chose Indonesia because I am Indonesian  Grin
But even so, for me just seeing Indonesia play in the AFC Asian Cup is quite happy. And I personally quite regret why Indonesia has to be in the same group as Japan and Iraq. From the rankings in FIFA alone, the differences between Indonesia, Iraq and Japan are very different. So I won't be surprised if Indonesia loses to Japan. But even so, I really want to see Indonesia beat a team that always plays in the WORLD CUP like Japan. So for tomorrow's match I really hope for a surprise from the Indonesian players.
Grin Grin Grin Glory Indonesia hahahha

And yes we lose against Japan I know this gonna be hard, Indonesia 1 - 3 for Japan but our country is still qualified for the next round and this round we gonna play with Australia and same as Japan I don't know we are gonna win or not



But Indonesia Must win this time I just knew it  Cheesy
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January 27, 2024, 05:37:40 PM
Latest conference before facing Australia, STY have predict with Indonesian team chance around 30% and Australia has 70% possibilities for winning the match, I don't think strategy from STY to make Australia team over confidence or he talking about less chance for Indonesia get qualify to quarter final round. Current FIFA World ranking, very gap difference between Indonesian teams who in 145 and Australian on the top 25 standings position.
For the tomorrow match, Indonesia have make high pressure and prefer for playing with short pass without using long pass because Asutralia have better high physical than Indonesia team. however I am optimistic with Indonesia team get chance for winning this match and brave for pressure Australian on the first minutes.
Here as things are going specially while they are giving them 70% chances I am not agreed about this all even these are mind games because Australia is surely one of the best team which can go through for the last four as well with their current quality and consistency with Indonesia is surely not near this performance which is big dilemma for them even they are also soccer crazy but still they fail to bring better things which help their game and increase quality.
Most chances we will have this one-sided game which will dominated by Australia and Indonesia need to do as they try to stop them from having too many goals just his is the best option and now after this event try to have better depth into this game from grass root which will increase their quality in the future.
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January 27, 2024, 02:07:03 PM
Latest conference before facing Australia, STY have predict with Indonesian team chance around 30% and Australia has 70% possibilities for winning the match, I don't think strategy from STY to make Australia team over confidence or he talking about less chance for Indonesia get qualify to quarter final round. Current FIFA World ranking, very gap difference between Indonesian teams who in 145 and Australian on the top 25 standings position.
For the tomorrow match, Indonesia have make high pressure and prefer for playing with short pass without using long pass because Asutralia have better high physical than Indonesia team. however I am optimistic with Indonesia team get chance for winning this match and brave for pressure Australian on the first minutes.
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January 27, 2024, 01:47:11 PM
I see that Indonesia weakness is not only in terms of easily losing the ball, but the mentality and movement of players in building attacks needs to be improved. Very often Indonesian players make the wrong pass when carrying out an attack and the coordination between the players is chaotic so they often make mistakes in their own area which results in goals for the opposing team.
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With the current conditions, the difference in rankings can already give an idea of the game conditions later. Although I also still hope that Indonesia can play a short ball with a diamond or triangle pattern. Some matches I saw Indonesia build attacks from the bottom but the midfielders were not in a close position. Their distance is quite far. Maybe STY can evaluate this problem later. They can imitate Japan, with the same posture conditions Japan is able to play effectively short with a very good pattern. The basic ability to read the conditions of Indonesian players still needs a lot of learning. At least they don't make their own mistakes.
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