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January 26, 2024, 06:27:40 AM
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The group stage has finished and it is clear which teams will play in the next round of the 2023 Qatar Asian Cup.
Every team in the group has gone through all the drama and excitement that occurred in the group stage and now the Round of 16 will soon take place with new struggles and hard work to ensure they are the best team so they can go even further.
This year it looks like the AFC Asian Cup has become more competitive. And Indonesia seems very lucky because it was able to qualify for the round of 16. Unfortunately, they will immediately face a strong team, namely the Australian National Team, which is a national team at a very different level from Indonesia. But I don't want to underestimate Indonesia because they also have good potential if they can play more calmly and don't panic easily. Japan and South Korea will definitely be the favorites to fight for the title this season. So it is not surprising that Japan and South Korea are on different sides. And they weren't planned to meet earlier. Because excitement will indeed happen if the two meet in the final. But maybe in this season's AFC Asian Cup it will be the unseeded team that will be able to take further steps.
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January 26, 2024, 05:53:58 AM

As an Indonesian, I appreciate that Indonesian national team can finally advance to the last 16 of the Asian Cup, which is the first time in history. However, seeing the results of the draw for Indonesia having to face Australia clearly makes me feel that there is very little hope that Indonesia will be able to beat Australia to qualify for the last 8. As we know, the quality of the Australian national team is very far above Indonesia, especially when referring to the FIFA rankings, the difference is very large. However, even though the Indonesian national team is facing Australia, which is clearly very strong, I still have hope that at least Indonesia will be able to hold off Australia until the penalty shootout because in football anything can happen, sometimes the team that is not the favorite, can actually win in the end.
This success should not be wasted when Indonesia enters the top 16. They have to play optimally and be really serious when facing Australia later. I know that Australia is still above Indonesia, but with the current squad, I think Indonesia will still be a draw with Australia if you look at it. In terms of strength, it's just that the Indonesian players haven't mastered passing properly, if only they had mastered it, I'm sure they could qualify for the top 8 or the quarter-finals later.

I also don't want to underestimate Australia but I am confident that STY will probably set a strategy in facing Australia later, of course playing the right players to be able to play optimally, Indonesia must be able to show its supporters that they can put on their best performance in this Asian Cup, successful Whether or not I'm sure that in the next few years the Indonesian team will be a team to be reckoned with, there's still plenty of time for STY to build it all up and I hope there won't be a change of coach in the future if Indonesia fails, because it only takes a few more years to see the results of what has been achieved. was formed when STY coached the Indonesian team.
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January 26, 2024, 05:41:54 AM
There are other teams remaining in the competition that I think Indonesia has better chances of winning than Australia but unfortunately for them, they were drawn against the Australia national team and that's why I strongly doubt that they're gonna get a result against Socceroos

There is an Indonesian luck factor, but their hard work is more. A miracle happened and Indonesia qualified, this is football that has provisions that make a team get lucky from the results of hard work and maybe Indonesia. Australia is not far from Japan in rankings, but several Indonesian players have played against them. Therefore, STY might be able to try to play closed and rely on counterattacks. Or hold them until the game resumes with a penalty.

There are some names that STY might have to try, such as Pattynama. But if STY keeps playing open, I think the quality of young Indonesian players is not too different. Another correction was to eliminate some errors in the defensive area that occurred against Japan.
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January 26, 2024, 05:16:49 AM

As an Indonesian, I appreciate that Indonesian national team can finally advance to the last 16 of the Asian Cup, which is the first time in history. However, seeing the results of the draw for Indonesia having to face Australia clearly makes me feel that there is very little hope that Indonesia will be able to beat Australia to qualify for the last 8. As we know, the quality of the Australian national team is very far above Indonesia, especially when referring to the FIFA rankings, the difference is very large. However, even though the Indonesian national team is facing Australia, which is clearly very strong, I still have hope that at least Indonesia will be able to hold off Australia until the penalty shootout because in football anything can happen, sometimes the team that is not the favorite, can actually win in the end.
Even when you are an Indonesian, you've maintained a high level of unbiased mind in your analysis of the Asian Cup round of 16 game between your country Indonesia vs Australia. It's been a historic tournament for the national team of Indonesia and I'm sure that the larger number of the Indonesian fans are very happy with the team and even if they fail to eliminate Australia and progress to the last eight teams, the Indonesia national team will still be  celebrated at home.

There are other teams remaining in the competition that I think Indonesia has better chances of winning than Australia but unfortunately for them, they were drawn against the Australia national team and that's why I strongly doubt that they're gonna get a result against Socceroos
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January 26, 2024, 05:06:38 AM

As an Indonesian, I appreciate that Indonesian national team can finally advance to the last 16 of the Asian Cup, which is the first time in history. However, seeing the results of the draw for Indonesia having to face Australia clearly makes me feel that there is very little hope that Indonesia will be able to beat Australia to qualify for the last 8. As we know, the quality of the Australian national team is very far above Indonesia, especially when referring to the FIFA rankings, the difference is very large. However, even though the Indonesian national team is facing Australia, which is clearly very strong, I still have hope that at least Indonesia will be able to hold off Australia until the penalty shootout because in football anything can happen, sometimes the team that is not the favorite, can actually win in the end.

indonesia versus australia. a difficult opponent for indonesia to qualify for the next phase. although in terms of player material indonesia has started to be decent because with many naturalised players the quality of the game can be lifted. but the opponent australia is very difficult even though it can still make a surprise by holding a draw and winning through a penalty shootout is very good for indonesia.
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January 26, 2024, 05:00:28 AM

As an Indonesian, I appreciate that Indonesian national team can finally advance to the last 16 of the Asian Cup, which is the first time in history. However, seeing the results of the draw for Indonesia having to face Australia clearly makes me feel that there is very little hope that Indonesia will be able to beat Australia to qualify for the last 8. As we know, the quality of the Australian national team is very far above Indonesia, especially when referring to the FIFA rankings, the difference is very large. However, even though the Indonesian national team is facing Australia, which is clearly very strong, I still have hope that at least Indonesia will be able to hold off Australia until the penalty shootout because in football anything can happen, sometimes the team that is not the favorite, can actually win in the end.
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I think Iraq will go to the semifinals along with the winner between Saudi Arabia and South Korea or Australia, not sure about that alternative.
In the other side, Qatar is favourite to go to the semifinals with Iran? Not sure also because they will challenge the winner between Japan and Bahrain.

I did not expect that Thailand and Indonesia qualified for the next round this is a good achievement from the two teams from the ASEAN region, but Indonesia's position is increasingly difficult because the 3 strongest countries are waiting for them Australia will be the first challenge for Indonesia then between Saudi Arabia and South Korea, on the other hand Thailand is in an easier position because in my opinion it is still at the same level. What do you think about the opportunities of Indonesia and Thailand in the next round?
Indonesia is really in a more difficult position in the round of 16. Their opponent, Australia, even has a FIFA ranking that is very different from Indonesia. But Indonesia has experience from fighting Iraq and Japan in the group stage so now the Garuda squad should be able to adapt more and start correcting the mistakes they had in the group stage yesterday. The only mistake the Indonesian players made was in their inaccurate pass accuracy.

Being in the last 16 is an honor for Indonesia. And for the match against Australia, I'm actually pessimistic. But the opportunity still exists, even though it is very small. For Thailand, I am sure they will qualify from the round of 16. Because I actually think Thai football has improved very rapidly. So when they held Saudi Arabia to a draw I was no longer surprised. Because I already expected this. But it would be extraordinary if Indonesia and Thailand both qualified for the quarter-finals. That would be a great surprise.
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January 26, 2024, 03:29:25 AM
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The group stage has finished and it is clear which teams will play in the next round of the 2023 Qatar Asian Cup.
Every team in the group has gone through all the drama and excitement that occurred in the group stage and now the Round of 16 will soon take place with new struggles and hard work to ensure they are the best team so they can go even further.

There are at least two matches that are very interesting in my opinion and that is between Saudi Arabia vs South Korea and Australia vs Indonesia. Maybe Saudi Arabia and South Korea have often been regulars at World Cup events and these two strong teams have to meet early in the round of 16 of the Asian Cup and the possible result here is that South Korea is still favored to win. However, looking at South Korea's journey in the group stage, they had to work hard to get through and maybe it also seemed a bit more of a gimmick so that they could avoid playing against Japan from the start and they managed to do it.

Meanwhile, Australia versus Indonesia, these are two countries that are quite close theoretically on the world map and I think the difference in quality also feels very big. But what is clear is that Indonesia, which last night hoped for a draw in the Kyrgyzstan vs Oman match, finally paid off by getting a place to qualify for the round of 16 through its achievement as one of the 3 best teams. Indonesia definitely has strong motivation like when they played against Japan and when they played against Australia they definitely won't give up and I think if they can hold Australia's series and take it to extra time then the hope of that opportunity is still there.
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January 25, 2024, 06:47:32 PM


I think Iraq will go to the semifinals along with the winner between Saudi Arabia and South Korea or Australia, not sure about that alternative.
In the other side, Qatar is favourite to go to the semifinals with Iran? Not sure also because they will challenge the winner between Japan and Bahrain.

I did not expect that Thailand and Indonesia qualified for the next round this is a good achievement from the two teams from the ASEAN region, but Indonesia's position is increasingly difficult because the 3 strongest countries are waiting for them Australia will be the first challenge for Indonesia then between Saudi Arabia and South Korea, on the other hand Thailand is in an easier position because in my opinion it is still at the same level. What do you think about the opportunities of Indonesia and Thailand in the next round?
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January 25, 2024, 06:44:32 PM
South Korea 3 - 3 Malaysia

I'm very shocked by this result, honestly the games in this competition are very unpredictable, I was very sure that South Korea would come out of this game with victory, although I didn't place any bets on this game because the odds were low. but it didn't occur to me that South Korea would come out of that game with a draw, and it's funny that South Korea was the first team to score a goal in this game at 21 minutes and ended 1 half with victory, it really seemed like the South Korea would come out of this with a very easy victory. but in the 2nd half it seems that the South Korean players entered the field very unfocused to the point of conceding a goal and the game was tied and it didn't take long for Malaysia to score the second goal and the game was already starting to get very strange because Korea from the south were losing

until the 83rd minute there was an own goal and thanks to that South Korea managed to tie the game, but at 90 + 4 South Korea benefited from a penalty and thanks to that penalty they managed to score a goal, it seemed like the game would end With this result, I didn't watch the game but I was following the result, so I don't understand why the hell this game had 90 + 15, thanks to 90 + 15 Malaysia managed to score the equalizer. It's very sad to see South Korea performing so poorly. This opponent was weak on paper, but on the field he showed the opposite.

The match was quite interesting because no one expected Malaysia to hold South Korea to a draw in this match.
Honestly at first I didn't expect much and felt very confident that Korea could win easily against Malaysia in this match but in the end this was a mistake because there was a surprise in extra time which was very long in this match.
Overall the game was a lot different in this one but looking at Malaysia's counter-attacks and Korea being too focused on attacking made them forget about their poor defense.
In the end this match made my multi which had gone smoothly when the Japan and Iraq matches had to run aground because Korea could not get full points in the matches that occurred.

But honestly this group phase Korea doesn't seem to have good momentum, I think they will qualify easily but they are actually troubled in this group phase.
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January 25, 2024, 06:24:44 PM

I think too early make thread about Asian Cup 2023 because competition held on next years and still several months later competition begin, beside need to applause what did by OP, I think not really good discussing when predicting Asian Cup 2023 right now. Should looking on schedule early by the OP and check when exactly match held before make prediction about who the king of Asia on 2023. I keep favorite with my country Indonesia and hope this time after 15 years not participants on Asian Cup and last time qualify by the host of Asian Cup 2007 and get automatically ticket without qualify round.

This was the important thread will help to understand the importance of football in the Asian region.Because the Asian region was mean to knock their game in the Cricket,the Australian team was the winner of World Cup Cricket.But the Japan and Indonesia are the two strongest team in this league to make their win.Many of the teams in this league get very few votes compared to the other team.Australia and North Korea are in the third place of the voting.Probably this cup competition between this four team of the tournament.Because other teams have never played in the international tournament
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January 25, 2024, 06:19:10 PM
Four teams qualified for the round of 16 because of the best third position. There are Syria, Palestine, Indonesia and Jordan. Their luck is that in the round of 16 there will be a knockout system. The team that wins, has the right to continue the struggle.

Its just feels weird to have best of the 3rd place in the group to qualify but oh well this is Asian Cup so Im not really expecting any other country aside from Japan and South Korea to actually make it to top 3 atleast. Anyway, I didnt pay any attention before and its surprising that Australia in on Asia Cup despite that they are not really on Asia continent.

Well they are not on europe or any other continent as well but still its weird

Yeah, I would also be surprised if the team that ranked 3rd in the group phase qualified. but this is normal, considering that there are not as many participants in the Asian Cup competition as the World Cup. talking about Japan and South Korea, as you said at least Japan and South Korea can reach the top 3 rankings. or, maybe they did it on purpose, not showing a real game during the group phase. Speaking of Australia, Australia has long been part of the Asian continent. even though they are actually not related at all, we have actually discussed this review in several posts before the competition was held.

Talking about candidates, it seems that Iraq is one of the teams being considered that has the possibility of becoming a title contender besides Japan and South Korea. apart from that, Iran and Saudi Arabia should not be underestimated either. however, as I said in many posts before the Asian Cup was held, Qatar has the potential to defend their title for the second time in the Asian Cup. Moreover, Qatar achieved perfect points without even conceding a goal. In fact, there is still the same Thai team squad that hasn't conceded a goal. However, in terms of performance, they are inferior to what Qatar did. In this competition, only two are my predicted candidates to win the Asian Cup trophy. if not Qatar, it means South Korea. well, let's just enjoy the matches that will be presented at this championship.
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I think Iraq will go to the semifinals along with the winner between Saudi Arabia and South Korea or Australia, not sure about that alternative.
In the other side, Qatar is favourite to go to the semifinals with Iran? Not sure also because they will challenge the winner between Japan and Bahrain.


Anyway, I didnt pay any attention before and its surprising that Australia in on Asia Cup despite that they are not really on Asia continent.

Well they are not on europe or any other continent as well but still its weird

Australia dominated Oceania, that's why they made it join AFC to let the other poor nation win something but also to make the Australian team more competitive.
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January 25, 2024, 05:02:49 PM
Some very strange results in this cup like in the African one, the most powerfull teams are not playing that good.
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Finally I am so excited with my national teams Indonesia success lead to 16 of round, its amazing journey because the first time in history Indonesia appearances in AFC Asian Cup make new history qualify to knock out round. Thanks so much for Kyrgyzstan help us qualify to next round after hold draw Oman and make Indonesia become the last fourth the best 3rd standing position teams.

the winning by Indonesia over Vietnam provided a gift for Indonesian football fans. even just an achievement that is not a champion, but this is a special result for all of us who want to see Indonesia continue to be in international competitions with the best results. I think Vietnam was too confident against Indonesia. They feel that the history of the winning over Indonesia can be easily repeated. However, Indonesia succeeded in silencing the Vietnamese public in bigger competitions, not just in the ASEAN competition, but at the AFC level.
Indonesian performance was not idea for qualifying into round of 16 but Kyrgyz Republic's Kojol score 80th minute goal against Oman is surely helpful for them to have spot into this next round where now they are going to face Australia which is also mighty heavy team for them because they never won against them in last few encounters even I check Indonesia never score them in last few matches which is clearly indicating how things will be gone into this match which is going to play on Sunday.
Now it's time for them to increase their quality and bring consistency because things are changing quickly and with this current structure they can win matches in big events hopefully now in near future we will have changes which could be positive.
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Four teams qualified for the round of 16 because of the best third position. There are Syria, Palestine, Indonesia and Jordan. Their luck is that in the round of 16 there will be a knockout system. The team that wins, has the right to continue the struggle.

Its just feels weird to have best of the 3rd place in the group to qualify but oh well this is Asian Cup so Im not really expecting any other country aside from Japan and South Korea to actually make it to top 3 atleast. Anyway, I didnt pay any attention before and its surprising that Australia in on Asia Cup despite that they are not really on Asia continent.

Well they are not on europe or any other continent as well but still its weird
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January 25, 2024, 03:33:29 PM
Journey to the Championship



The group stage has finished and it is clear which teams will play in the next round of the 2023 Qatar Asian Cup.
Every team in the group has gone through all the drama and excitement that occurred in the group stage and now the Round of 16 will soon take place with new struggles and hard work to ensure they are the best team so they can go even further.



Four teams qualified for the round of 16 because of the best third position. There are Syria, Palestine, Indonesia and Jordan. Their luck is that in the round of 16 there will be a knockout system. The team that wins, has the right to continue the struggle.
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January 25, 2024, 02:06:08 PM
Finally I am so excited with my national teams Indonesia success lead to 16 of round, its amazing journey because the first time in history Indonesia appearances in AFC Asian Cup make new history qualify to knock out round. Thanks so much for Kyrgyzstan help us qualify to next round after hold draw Oman and make Indonesia become the last fourth the best 3rd standing position teams.
Right now we are focus to 16 round match and against Australia become difficult match, but we have more motivation and spirit behind fans expected and support will make Indonesian have difference performance for 16 round match than group round. Wish Indonesia not stop with record achieving lead to 16 round but also lead until quarter and semifinal phase  Grin

Our spirits have all risen again today after yesterday experiencing great disappointment after being defeated by Japan, today is a very historic day, fter waiting for so long, we were finally able to reach the round of 16, to be honest, I was very sad when I saw that Indonesia previously had a small opportunity to qualify, especially when Oman managed to score a goal against Kyrgyzstan in the 8th minute, of course it made all hope disappear, but who would have thought that luck would be on Indonesia side today and make us all cheer happily to welcome the return goal from Kyrgyzstan in the 80th minute, even though Indonesia's qualification depends on the results of other matches, but I am still grateful that Indonesia can qualify for the round of 16.
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South Korea 3 - 3 Malaysia

I'm very shocked by this result, honestly the games in this competition are very unpredictable, I was very sure that South Korea would come out of this game with victory, although I didn't place any bets on this game because the odds were low. but it didn't occur to me that South Korea would come out of that game with a draw, and it's funny that South Korea was the first team to score a goal in this game at 21 minutes and ended 1 half with victory, it really seemed like the South Korea would come out of this with a very easy victory. but in the 2nd half it seems that the South Korean players entered the field very unfocused to the point of conceding a goal and the game was tied and it didn't take long for Malaysia to score the second goal and the game was already starting to get very strange because Korea from the south were losing

until the 83rd minute there was an own goal and thanks to that South Korea managed to tie the game, but at 90 + 4 South Korea benefited from a penalty and thanks to that penalty they managed to score a goal, it seemed like the game would end With this result, I didn't watch the game but I was following the result, so I don't understand why the hell this game had 90 + 15, thanks to 90 + 15 Malaysia managed to score the equalizer. It's very sad to see South Korea performing so poorly. This opponent was weak on paper, but on the field he showed the opposite.

Saudi Arabia 0 - 0 Thailand

Honestly, I'm starting to wonder how these teams like Saudi Arabia, Japan, South Korea got to the World Cup? I wonder about this because when you look at Saudi Arabia and the teams in that group, I see no reason why Saudi Arabia can't beat all these teams. It seems like there is a collective weakening of all Asian teams that participated in the World Cup. Qatar is doing very well, Iran is also doing very well. But I'm shocked by Japan's performance, which is a disappointment. I hope Japan improves, because they won't be able to get far that way. As for Saudi Arabia, at least they managed to stay at the top of the group, that's a good thing for them
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January 25, 2024, 12:39:08 PM
Finally I am so excited with my national teams Indonesia success lead to 16 of round, its amazing journey because the first time in history Indonesia appearances in AFC Asian Cup make new history qualify to knock out round. Thanks so much for Kyrgyzstan help us qualify to next round after hold draw Oman and make Indonesia become the last fourth the best 3rd standing position teams.

the winning by Indonesia over Vietnam provided a gift for Indonesian football fans. even just an achievement that is not a champion, but this is a special result for all of us who want to see Indonesia continue to be in international competitions with the best results. I think Vietnam was too confident against Indonesia. They feel that the history of the winning over Indonesia can be easily repeated. However, Indonesia succeeded in silencing the Vietnamese public in bigger competitions, not just in the ASEAN competition, but at the AFC level.
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