Topic: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion - page 13. (Read 5530 times)

Finally I am so excited with my national teams Indonesia success lead to 16 of round, its amazing journey because the first time in history Indonesia appearances in AFC Asian Cup make new history qualify to knock out round. Thanks so much for Kyrgyzstan help us qualify to next round after hold draw Oman and make Indonesia become the last fourth the best 3rd standing position teams.
Right now we are focus to 16 round match and against Australia become difficult match, but we have more motivation and spirit behind fans expected and support will make Indonesian have difference performance for 16 round match than group round. Wish Indonesia not stop with record achieving lead to 16 round but also lead until quarter and semifinal phase 

I don't expect Saudi Arabia to win easily because Thailand performance too are incredible, they are the second in the table, I think if the are not strong enough they can maintain that position but after all they are both qualified, GROUP F can't produce any third best because Oman that are third are having only 2 points.

The four best third countries are Syria with 4 points, palestine with 4 points too the same with Syria and also Jordan and last one is Indonesia with 3 points. The remaining third place are China and Oman are having the same points which is 2 points,

The best team in this stage are Qatar, Iran and Iraq with 9 points, teams with highest goal which is 8 goals are, Iraq, Japan and south Korea while teams that conceded more goals are Vietnam and Malaysia, the worst team are India, Hong-Kong and Vietnam, they finished the group stage without getting a single point that what make them worst.

The results from group E and F are unbelievable today!
There must be many betters who place bet on Arab, Jordan, Oman and South Korea.

And Indonesia qualified to the next round because of Oman only draw against Kyrgyzstan.
If Im not wrong, Indonesia will face Australia in the round of 16.

In the Saudi Arabia vs Thailand match, the current score is still 0-0.
This was a result I didn't expect at all. Because I think Saudi Arabia will win quite easily in this match. But it turns out Thailand isn't as bad as I thought. Because they were even able to score goals against Saudi Arabia several times even though everything was invalid because they were in the Off Side position.

Now the match has entered the 69th minute and it looks like this match could end in a draw until the end. Because now the two teams look more balanced. Even though Aran Saudi controlled more of the ball. But they still had difficulty penetrating the Thai defense.

Pride in a team cannot be forced. If we are proud of the Indonesian team's performance when they lost against Japan, it cannot be compared to people who are not so proud.

Japan is strong, the quality of Japan's game is good and recognized by many world football observers so it is not surprising that many big teams around the world want the talents of Japanese players.
In our opinion, Indonesia lost to Japan, which is a natural and normal result in a football match. Not looking for the cause and effect behind the defeat received because what is considered weak is not necessarily weak on the field.

Indonesia's target is to be in second place, when that doesn't happen then waiting for the results of other matches is not the answer because the answer is that Indonesia does not qualify because it is in third place.

Even things are disappointing for the Indonesian fans but as we enter into second half of the match between Kyrgyzstan vs Oman we have goal from the Kyrgyzstan which again bring back them into connection for the qualification because if Oman wants to go through then surely they need to win this match in case of draw we have chance for the Indonesia to go through for the round of the 16.

Today in early games we have surprising performance from the Malaysia which score three goals against South Korea and have draw which is amazing stuff from them and Bahrain beats Jordan which is also shocking result before the start of round of 16.

Edit: goal disallow so not Indonesia is now again in trouble, but we have 30 minutes left, hopefully luck will go with them, and we have one goal.

Yes, that's true and in my view of STY as the Indonesian coach, he is very good at building all this completely even though Indonesia failed to qualify, but they have performed very well in the Asian Cup this year, to be honest they have also played very well against Japan and succeeded. scoring a goal against Japan is a good achievement as well as against Iraq, I don't think the Indonesian coach should be replaced because everything still needs a process to get better in the future, I think it will take another 5 years to see Indonesia more advanced than it is now .

I also think the players need to adapt well because there are many naturalized players who have to adapt to the playing style of each local player too, that's why it's not easy to build a great Indonesian team in a short time, I think changing coaches is not the right way to see Indonesia better. Better yet, in the future, keep the current trainer until Indonesia really gets better. My prediction is that maybe in 5 or 10 years, Indonesia will succeed in reaching the important stage in the Asian league.

That's true the Saudi Arabia is on another level they are also ahead on making ball positions. It's about 60% ball position on their Hand and on the others hand Thailand have only 40% . Although Saudi Arabia are more able to hold match positions and have more targeted shots than Thailand, I'd say if they continue to make more mistakes like missing their penalty goals, they could lose to Thailand, I think it's not impossible.
Although Thailand could not win a match with Saudi Arabia in recent head-to-head matches. Let's see what happens in the second Half. I don't think there will be any goals in the first half.

Indonesian team opportunity to get slot best 3rd standings position have been over after Bahrain won against Jordan and current match awhile Oman managed 1-0 against Kyrgyzstan until 35th minutes. Actually I don't expected with Indonesia team has chance to get best 3rd standings position because many teams try to make match fixing won't get three points to get easily opponent teams on 16 round.
Likely last match result unpredictable Jordan have losses against Bahrain because won't face Japan on 16 round and have make Australia as their opponent team. I think AFC must change regulation of AFC Asian Cup because many Arabian teams get advantage and any potential with match fixing for teams won't to face strong opponent on 16 round.

3 surprises have occurred for the Saudi Arabia vs Thailand match. First, Saudi Arabia failed to take advantage of the penalty kick, Second, Thailand scored 1 goal but it turned out to be Offside, Third, Saudi Arabia also immediately made an attack and broke into Thailand's goal but unfortunately it was also Offside. This match was more exciting than I expected. Because both teams had a level of aggressiveness beyond what I expected.

I'm still on the Thai side even though I realize Saudi Arabia is on a different level.

Yeah the final result was really beyond our expectations in general, South Korea's performance is not very impressive because they were only able to draw in the last 2 matches even though their opponents were at a lower level. As usual, South Korea can control the match from all sides it's just that the poor defense and finishing are clearly visible there so I doubt that South Korea can advance to a better stage I mean nothing more than the semifinals, or maybe we haven't seen the real South Korean game?

In group F, it seems that Thailand is the underdog team they have a chance to be runners up but if Oman can beat Kyrgyzstan with a big score then Oman will be in 2nd place, I mean Oman should be able to win with a difference of 4 goals today. Currently the match has been running for 9 minutes and Oman has scored one goal  is it possible for Oman to score 4 goals? Kyrgyzstan only conceded 4 goals in the last 2 matches, 2 goals each in each match. The scenario would be different if Thailand drew today because Thailand will collect 5 points.

Surprisingly, South Korea was even held to a 3-3 draw by Malaysia in today's match. And Jordan also lost to Bahrain. I was really surprised by the results of these two matches. For the South Korea vs Malaysia match, I can already guess that there will be lots of goals scored. But the score 3-3 is still hard for me to believe. The match was really full of drama and I didn't even expect the match to be even more exciting at the end of the match. So two goals were created in the added minutes of added time.

Soon there will be another Saudi Arabia vs Thailand match and a Kyrgyzstan vs Oman match. I favor Oman and Thailand in this match. Even though I know Saudi Arabia is actually far superior to Thailand. but somehow lately I think that Thai football has improved very well. And I hope my assessment is not wrong for this match.

Yes, this is the problem with big teams. Sometimes they can't live up to the best expectations of the predictors. They only look at the player's stats, and that's not always right. But I feel they will work hard to win against Indonesia. They want to make sure they are stronger and deserve to qualify for the knockout stages. I can't wait to see this match. I hope Indonesia is able to give a happy surprise to all the spectators. They have to work hard and not rely on other matches.

Maybe there are many people out there who share my opinion that Group E is the strangest group in the Asian Cup competition because after the last match finished today there was a surprising result with Bahrain managing to beat Jordan with a narrow score of 0-1 and followed by a draw between South Korea vs. Malaysia ended with the same score of 3-3.

Of course, this is an extraordinary achievement for Malaysia because it managed to hold off the South Korean series and will definitely increase its ranking in FIFA.
Another thing that made us very surprised was that Bahrain won the group in this preliminary round and instead of South Korea occupying the top position.

Maybe there are other reasons why South Korea is aiming for second place and maybe one of them is to avoid playing Japan in the next round. Of course, even if they wanted to face Japan, South Korea would definitely want them in the final and wouldn't want to meet them sooner.

South Korea team will definitely win as many experienced people are betting on South Korea. Malaysia team on the other hand is relatively weak as they have already lost two matches. But South Korea team won one match but drew the next match, I support South Korea as a stronger team than Malaysia. The South Korean team players have a very high running speed, the South Korean team is in the second position in Group E. In comparison, the Malaysian team is ranked fourth.

If Indonesia wants to qualify, Bahrain must lose. and must be the difference with 3 goals. or if the results of Bahrain do not match can still qualify as long as Oman against Kyrgyzstan must draw.
I think it will be very difficult for Indonesia to qualify. it should be a draw against Iraq if you want to qualify.
the current situation is very heavy for Indonesia to qualify for the next phase.

As Indonesian team fans I am very interested with this match, high intention from all Indonesian team fans expected with Jordan have win above three goals and indirectly help Indonesian teams get the best 3rd standings position place. Current standings, Jordan have been qualify to next round but their top position standings not secure yet regarding South Korea match result against Malaysia. Currently, Jordan have on the top standings of Group E have 2 difference goals from South Korea, they will easily win with many goals against Malaysia and Jordan have secure their first standings if win with many goals.
Bahrain still has opportunity qualify as the best 3rd place position if get draw or win against Jordan, but if  loss under two goals their opportunity still open because Indonesia have losses -3 goals and Bahrain position losses -1 goals.

South Korea vs Malaysia

Malaysia as the weakest team in group E and they have already lost 2 times with conceded 5 goals and still unable to scores so this could be easy match for South Korea even the bookmakers only provide low odds for them @1.16 and currently South Korea position at second place under Jordan and if they want to finish at first place so South Korea have to win with big scores from Malaysia and it's not difficult for them to do that because from squad quality obviously they are clearly better than Malaysia and my prediction is South Korea will be able to win this match with 2 goals margin or more

Jordan vs Bahrain

Compared between these teams Jordan is much better than Bahrain because Jordan can able to win with big scores from Malaysia and they can gets draw result from South Korea and for this match too if they can win Jordan have a potention to finish at first place at the end of group stages but if they win from this match then their upcoming opponent at round of 16 is Japan and this could be hard match for them because although Japan performance is not so impressive during group stages but they are still being an the favourite team in this competition so that's why some people predict Jordan will only targetting draw result from this match because they want to avoiding Japan as their next opponent and if this is true i think there is possibility for this match to ended with draw

That's just if and every goal from the penalty prize and also an own goal was the result of a good attack which made the Indonesian team make a mistake in blocking the attack, and there's nothing to be disappointed about, because in terms of quality we will find it difficult to get points against Japan, and by successfully getting three points from three matches, that's already good in my opinion, for a team that could be said to be mediocre in this tournament.
The only goal that Indonesia scored in this match was like a consolation because it was able to break through Japan's excellent defense and also because Indonesia didn't have many opportunities to control the ball, so I see there is progress in the Indonesian national team, they just need to continue to develop their game and of course a good coach will be able to make his team develop better.

Japan vs Indonesia with score of 3 - 1 and this was quite crushing defeat experienced by the Indonesian national team, but you are right that Indonesia put up quite tough resistance during the match and Japan was completely dominated by the game.
In the dominant possession of the game held by Japan, Indonesia was still able to have the opportunity to score 1 goal from the many attempted attacks carried out by Indonesian players goal occurred in the final minute of extra time and that was gift for Indonesia.
They can still get 1 goal back and of course this is sad match for all Indonesians, the chance of qualifying for the round of 16 will be very small and even feel very impossible.
But if the national team can really qualify for the round of 16 then that would be luck.
But I don't think so, namely being able to survive longer because in the round of 16 the team competing will be stronger and have the possibility of eliminating Indonesia.
We'll see if Shin Tae-yong can get his players through to the next round and of course all of us fans of the Indonesian national team really hope they can qualify for the round of 16.