Topic: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion - page 15. (Read 5530 times)

Japan achieved victory against Vietnam, but they had a hard time. They were surprisingly defeated in the Iraq match. A draw for Japan against Indonesia will be enough for the top two places, but they need to win for confidence. Confidence was high before the start of the tournament because of their form and the quality of their squad, but they are not yet at a satisfactory level. Indonesia, on the other hand, beat Vietnam, whose strength level is close to theirs, but they could not resist Iraq, whose quality is higher. Indonesia has the same points as Japan in the group but lags behind in terms of quality. I would say that Japan is a much better team than Indonesia. I expect a fast start from Japan in the first half and Japan will be the dominant side in the match.

Yes, Indonesia failed and was sad because it was defeated by Iraq, but after winning against Vietnam, Indonesia's sadness has now been healed and healed.

The match against Japan is of course a tough match for Indonesia because Japan is a strong team, and when Japan played against Vietnam, Japan successfully won the match with a score of 4-2 and this is proof that Japan is a strong team because they managed to beat Vietnam.

and today Indonesia will compete against Japan, I think the Indonesian fans must be ready to watch the match between Indonesia and Japan, I hope the match goes smoothly. I think Shin Tae-yong now has a tough task because Japan is a strong opponent for Indonesia. I hope Shin Tae-yong can make a good formation and I think Indonesia must also be able to take advantage of opportunities when the ball is close to the Japanese goal. However, I am sure that the Indonesian national team will appear confident in the match against Japan.

In group B the teams who qualified to the next round has been determined that those teams is Australia and Uzbekistan and both teams has been playing draw in the last match of group stages this result makes Australia became an group champion with 7 points and Uzbekistan as the runner up but what a shame for India because they have to ended this tournament with finish at the bottom of group standings India even have to lost 3 times and they were unable to scores and for other team in this group after beating India yesterday Suriah has open their chance to qualified to the round of 16 as one of the best 3rd place teams in this tournament

For upcoming match Japan vs Indonesia and everybody has been discuss about this before and beating Japan is just like mission impossible for Indonesia because their squad quality is far below if we compared to Japan even the bookmakers only provide @1.06 for Japan which mean Japan has 90% winning rates for this match and i know big possibility Indonesia will lost today but i expect they will not lost with big scores from Japan because if i am not mistaken Indonesia also has good chance to qualified to round of 16 as long as they do not lost with big scores

Which timeframe are we talking about here? If we look at their last matches before AFC they are doing fine. I'd argue that they are getting stronger overall with so many players playing overseas. But they always underperform in tournaments like this iirc, not to mention some key players are rested or not starting on important matches (unless they don't think they have to do that). If we look at the way they play, they are still dominating their game, just that poor defending and lack of goalscoring conversions hurt them. I don't think Indonesia has any advantage from a gameplay perspective, other than no pressure at all. They are still young and will likely improve as long as they keep playing, unlike Japan which is one of the favorites.

Even if Iraq lose the game against Vietnam, it's not possible that Japan win the group. Iraq have secured the first place.
In the case Iraq lose against Vietnam and Japan win Indonesia, they will be equal in points and they will be ranked according to the result of their head-to-head match which was ended with a win for Iraq.

Situation is currently very interesting even we have fair chance for the Indonesia to qualify but still this all depend on few other results as well right now three teams are in contest and Oman which is at the bottom can jump with Bahrain having tough match against Jordan and Indonesia is going to face Japan which is not predictable any team can win and go through but who is going it's not clear due to too much hype mostly feeling Indonesia will be strong, but everything is possible while Japan will also give their best and Oman will also go against Kyrgyzstan with their full force for having chance to go through.

Japan is currently not strong as we have them in past which is surely giving good advantage to Indonesia but still it's never been easy for them to win against them and go through directly into next round they perform extraordinary if they want to have chance.

Winning with the odds in the market 1X2 more than 20x is rare, very rare actually.
But yeah draw is still possible because Japan might resting some of their key players, because even if they got 3 points but Iraq wins against Vietnam = Japan will be the runner up of the group.

The runner up on group D means they will face the winner of group E (Jordan or South Korea).
Japan will need their best players in the best conditions against one of the teams above.

While the winner of Group D will face the 3rd from group B or E or F.
That is why Iraq definitely will do their best to get 3 points against Vietnam.

I'm not interested in betting on this match and indeed things get more difficult when Australia is guaranteed to qualify. All group B matches have ended and the result is that Australia vs Uzbekistan ended in a draw and Syria vs India ended in Syria's victory. As you might expect, Australia can't win and maybe if someone bets on Australia they will definitely lose their money.

But the results of the Syria vs India match were quite surprising and India did not get a single win in this group stage. Even though Syria won, Uzbekistan only got a draw which was enough to accompany Australia to advance to the next round. Congratulations to Australia for winning the group and it is not surprising that they are one of the strongest teams in the Asian Cup competition.

41.00 odds are too big. Gamblers who are too brave to bet on Indonesia winning against Japan will get a very large multiplication of the amount of the bet placed.

If I had a bet365 account, I would bet on Indonesia's win considering the bet to test my luck and the luck of the Indonesian team which is considered too weak to beat a team as strong as Japan.
A draw is still possible, but to win, Indonesia is beyond the expectations of many analysts.

2 matches will start in the next few minutes Australia vs Uzbekistan and Syria vs India please remember that Australia has already qualified for the next round so this match is meaningless for Australia, I'm not saying Australia will lose but you should be more careful when placing bets on this match. In other matches, Syria still has a chance to qualify if they can beat India and score lots of goals and Uzbekistan only needs a draw to qualify, basically there are still many possibilities in group B.

Seeing the odds for Indonesia against Japan, It seems like it doesn't make sense if Indonesia draws or wins. Here are some odds from various casinos. Maybe if you are familiar with other casinos besides Bets.io, you could consider this.



look at bet356, the odds for Indonesia winning reach 41, I'm not sure there will be a lot of gambler who bet on Indonesia. But in case Indonesia can win, those who bet on Indonesia will probably be happy with the profits from their risky bets. Even taking a risk for draw it's really hard to believe i think.

 I also chose Indonesia because I am Indonesian 
But even so, for me just seeing Indonesia play in the AFC Asian Cup is quite happy. And I personally quite regret why Indonesia has to be in the same group as Japan and Iraq. From the rankings in FIFA alone, the differences between Indonesia, Iraq and Japan are very different. So I won't be surprised if Indonesia loses to Japan. But even so, I really want to see Indonesia beat a team that always plays in the WORLD CUP like Japan. So for tomorrow's match I really hope for a surprise from the Indonesian players.

It seems that Indonesia is the most discussed topic in this discussion. Maybe Indonesia has an attraction because it is a debutant and filled with many young players, who just joined because they changed nationality. Against Japan it looks difficult, but your opinion is quite correct. Japan has a goalkeeper like Onana at the moment. There are several weaknesses that can be exploited by Indonesia. Including the statistics you mentioned many media also discuss. It seems that Indonesia must imitate Iraq's strategy to be able to get a draw or not concede more than 1 goal. But I feel confident Japan will be very eager to win, they don't want the mistakes against Vietnam and Iraq to be repeated.

without seeing the results of the match against Japan. Indonesia can also directly qualify as long as one of the matches between Syria against India and Hong Kong against Palestine ends in a draw, it has led Indonesia to qualify for the next phase. if the result ends in victory, Indonesia must at least draw with Japan.
so Indonesia's chances of qualifying for the next phase are quite large.

I just vote for Indonesia because it is simply my home country  and after that, I saw the result, and 14 people voted for Indonesia already  .

and according to the news

"The victory over Vietnam is only Indonesia’s third win at the AFC Asian Cup, with the other two coming against Bahrain (2-1 in 2007) and Qatar (2-1 in 2004) as well as being only the second time they have managed to keep a clean sheet in the continental showpiece." - https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/21/01/2024/young-indonesia-live-up-to-shins-expectations-1 it very long ago Indonesia don't show it face hehehhe

But it will be hard after the vietnam we must face japan and tbh it gonna be hard 

If you think about it, Japan has a shaky defense in the AFC this season. Conceded 2 goals in each match, which is arguably because the keeper make some bad decision or gets unlucky. Iraq's goals come from header, where the first one should easily be prevented if the keeper catches it. On the other hand, you can argue that the marking for the first goal is probably not the best for them. The second goal was unlucky since the ball went through between the legs, but the Iraq goalscorer clearly won the duel with his marker. That being said, I also think their pressing game is a bit unorganized sometimes. Probably because not all key players play the game. Who knows, at the end of the day they also need to improve their goal conversion rate which is also a bit underwhelming for the top favorite in this tournament. 2 shots on target from 15 attempts is low. CMIIW.

Iraq was surprising, even I think the Japanese coach did not expect the performance of Iraq to beat Japan. It seems like it doesn't make sense in terms of ranking and statistics that Indonesia is able to draw against Japan. But I agree, soccer always provides many unexpected surprises. Indonesia once played Argentina, even though it was only a friendly. But it can be a lesson, Indonesia must work hard and not hope for the results of other matches. They must focus on every minute of the match.

It's clear that Japan is much more favored than Indonesia, you can refer to the FIFA rankings for this team. Japan is ranked 17th, while Indonesia is ranked 146th. there is a very significant gap that stands out from the differences between these two teams, whether in terms of player quality, FIFA ranking, experience and stability. apart from that, if we refer to the betting exchange, the differences are so significant that I can't comment much on this side. Japan with @1.05, while Indonesia @29.00.

Ah, it's hard to believe, I really hope for Shin Tae Yong if he is able to bring the Garuda squad to win this match. even though I know very well, the probability that Indonesia will defeat Japan is very slim. remember, in the last match Japan lost against Iraq. they will not waste this match by winning over Indonesia. which means, Japan will play with all their abilities to secure their position to qualify for the next phase.
However, I hope that Indonesia will be able to match Japan's playing patterns. Shin Tae Yong is a smart coach, he will study the weak points of his opposing team's squad in the match against Japan. although I am quite sure, Indonesia will continue to use the same pattern. and they will be heavily attacked by Japan, but hope that the young Indonesian Garuda squad will be able to exploit the gaps to carry out a deadly counterattack. and I hope so. just wait, this match will be held tomorrow.

Japan is of course the favorite in this tournament and the last match against Indonesia will be a match that they will really maximize to get full points. Japan, which has suffered one defeat, must be very disappointed and Indonesia seems to be an outlet for them. Indonesian coach Shin Tae Yong is of course very aware of the quality of his troops but he has to think about what scheme to implement so that his team doesn't become a target and goals rain. Indonesia is definitely very determined to be able to steal points in the next match even though the chance is very small.

Quality and current performance clearly showing how things will be gone in this match and most chances Japan will be also at his best as they are one of the favourites for this cup, and they will give their best to win this game and jumps for the next round I have no doubt Japan will be winner even have no chance for the draw, but Indonesian fans are creating good hype about their team which is having not good depth for the qualifying into next round currently odds for the Indonesia is @30 which are quite high even deserve some risk but most chances nothing will be happened.

In this event, Japan having problem with their defense as they are conceding 2 goals in every match which is surely not good, but their attack response is also good as they are scoring goals but still defeat against Iraq is shocking for their fans, and now they will not repeat performance like this against Indonesia.