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Quote from: dhenson on November 04, 2015, 01:37:53 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on November 03, 2015, 03:25:12 PM

Quote from: Blazed on November 03, 2015, 11:13:49 AM

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

Shortly before everything went down, Jutarul flew to China and met with Friedcat and Co. Then, when he first disappeared and everyone was speculating (March 3rd 2015), Friedcats main mining address where his funds were being placed paid out 3 large payments (5456btc, 2125btc and 9650 btc transactions).

https://blockchain.info/address/15h6A2a3D31vRviBDdSpvhLtYJq3aePhdW

My assumption has been that he paid off the largest holders and ran. This is obviously compete speculation on my part.

Seems odd that there is still 12k BTC in that address. If I were to run for the hill I sure as hell wouldn't leave all my funds in an address that is so public.

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Quote from: BitThink on November 22, 2015, 06:08:55 PM

Havelock cannot delist it because if they delist they have to convert virtual stock to real one, which is impossible without friedcat.

This seems unlikely to be true. Give it another 12 months and they'll delist it...with no issuer actively managing the listing, I don't see how this continues indefinitely.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 21, 2015, 02:38:32 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on November 20, 2015, 08:16:24 PM

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Quote from: glendall on November 19, 2015, 06:13:48 PM

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

I think the reason is speculation. They know it is dead but it can't become worse. So when the price would be a satoshi then what can happen? 2 Satoshies? Then this would be a profit of 100%. That's the reason why many people trade altcoins. Though the volume is pretty low.

I really don't think any of them believes that the company has a promising future.

It a weird game of cat and mouse
I know its worth 0 you know its worth 0 but we want to see if someone else will sell it at a higher price than they bought it.
Basically a ponzi that doesn't really shut down until havelock finally delists it.

Havelock cannot delist it because if they delist they have to convert virtual stock to real one, which is impossible without friedcat.

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So there really is something sustainable worth investing here then...

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Quote from: SebastianJu on November 20, 2015, 08:16:24 PM

Quote from: gogxmagog on November 19, 2015, 09:31:05 PM

Quote from: glendall on November 19, 2015, 06:13:48 PM

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

I think the reason is speculation. They know it is dead but it can't become worse. So when the price would be a satoshi then what can happen? 2 Satoshies? Then this would be a profit of 100%. That's the reason why many people trade altcoins. Though the volume is pretty low.

I really don't think any of them believes that the company has a promising future.

It a weird game of cat and mouse
I know its worth 0 you know its worth 0 but we want to see if someone else will sell it at a higher price than they bought it.
Basically a ponzi that doesn't really shut down until havelock finally delists it.

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Quote from: gogxmagog on November 19, 2015, 09:31:05 PM

Quote from: glendall on November 19, 2015, 06:13:48 PM

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

I think the reason is speculation. They know it is dead but it can't become worse. So when the price would be a satoshi then what can happen? 2 Satoshies? Then this would be a profit of 100%. That's the reason why many people trade altcoins. Though the volume is pretty low.

I really don't think any of them believes that the company has a promising future.

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Quote from: glendall on November 19, 2015, 06:13:48 PM

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

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What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

According to RoadStress, your investment is fine.

Quote from: RoadStress on October 06, 2015, 01:28:08 PM

AM isn't a scam.

The party who suffered is only the company and its shareholders and it was by pure theft or malicious third-party (we still don't have any proof about anything regarding this)! Also it should be noted that the damage wasn't made by unrealistic/optimistic promises or by purely lies by the company towards its customers like in HashFail's case.

See? All good!

AM "isn't a scam" and no damage was caused by their "unrealistic/optimistic promises."

Time to load up on the cheap shares!

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the ~~owed~~ unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? Cheesy

Maybe he's waiting for someone who pays him 5BTC each share...

Well, 4 - 4.5 BTC should be enough. But perhaps this extra 0.5-1 BTC/share should be compensation for the long wait and uncertainty. Wink

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Quote from: ZephramC on November 12, 2015, 02:23:38 AM

Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the ~~owed~~ unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? Cheesy

Maybe he's waiting for someone who pays him 5BTC each share...

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the ~~owed~~ unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? Cheesy

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

It ran ran away.........snicker.

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

It's somewhere between SNAFU and FUBAR.

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Quote from: kunac on November 10, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

How's my investment?

Was that an attempt to joke? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Lincoln6Echo on November 04, 2015, 10:23:24 AM

Well, that assumption makes sense. How do you know Jutarul flew there just before Friedcat disappeared? A couple of month ago I asked Jutarul via PM whether he got some information about this whole asicminer situation but never got any reply.

I looked back through my PM history and his trip to China was Nov. so not immediately before, but close enough.

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Hm, sounds like an interesting idea. Though you would have to assume that the largest shareholders would all be ok with screwing everyone then. I know many scammers are in bitcoin world but i somehow doubt that this could easily happen.

Though maybe it was no payout for the largest shareholders but for friedcats direct partners he built the company from the ground. There were a couple of them right? Three maybe?

And would the amount of bitcoins paid out make sense as a payment for the success of the company and for keeping silent over all things happened? I think they would not be happy if friedcat would take a enourmous share and they get, comparable, peanuts.

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Quote from: dhenson on November 04, 2015, 01:37:53 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on November 03, 2015, 03:25:12 PM

Quote from: Blazed on November 03, 2015, 11:13:49 AM

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

Shortly before everything went down, Jutarul flew to China and met with Friedcat and Co. Then, when he first disappeared and everyone was speculating (March 3rd 2015), Friedcats main mining address where his funds were being placed paid out 3 large payments (5456btc, 2125btc and 9650 btc transactions).

https://blockchain.info/address/15h6A2a3D31vRviBDdSpvhLtYJq3aePhdW

My assumption has been that he paid off the largest holders and ran. This is obviously compete speculation on my part.

Well, that assumption makes sense. How do you know Jutarul flew there just before Friedcat disappeared? A couple of month ago I asked Jutarul via PM whether he got some information about this whole asicminer situation but never got any reply.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on November 03, 2015, 03:25:12 PM

Quote from: Blazed on November 03, 2015, 11:13:49 AM

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

Shortly before everything went down, Jutarul flew to China and met with Friedcat and Co. Then, when he first disappeared and everyone was speculating (March 3rd 2015), Friedcats main mining address where his funds were being placed paid out 3 large payments (5456btc, 2125btc and 9650 btc transactions).

https://blockchain.info/address/15h6A2a3D31vRviBDdSpvhLtYJq3aePhdW

My assumption has been that he paid off the largest holders and ran. This is obviously compete speculation on my part.

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