Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!
Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 8. (Read 3917029 times)
January 08, 2016, 08:19:12 AM
January 08, 2016, 08:07:20 AM
Looks like "to miss" people in China is daily routine. Maybe new supplies for labour camps?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janeho/2016/01/08/chinese-fashion-retailer-metersbonwes-billionaire-chairman-zhou-chengjian-goes-missing/
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Reports in the Chinese media suspect Zhou was picked up by the police, some asserting the reason is his association with fund manager Xu Xiang, who was arrested in November for insider trading.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janeho/2016/01/08/chinese-fashion-retailer-metersbonwes-billionaire-chairman-zhou-chengjian-goes-missing/
January 05, 2016, 02:22:16 PM
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you 
Hah, no worries, I just hope this ends up being sufficient.
edit... However, based on the dividend history (https://blockchain.info/address/1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq) and the 11/24 dividend amount of 0.0000543/share, you had 650 shares, not 450.
Keen observation!
So, friedcat was still responsive for a few months after 11/24, and in that time he transferred 200 of my shares to Havelock (which, incredibly, could be sold instead of abandoned). Anyway, the dividend history is slightly out of date.
*sigh* Most of my investments in this space actually worked out really well... this one did not... a lesson learned!
December 30, 2015, 04:15:24 AM
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
Hah, no worries, I just hope this ends up being sufficient.
edit... However, based on the dividend history (https://blockchain.info/address/1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq) and the 11/24 dividend amount of 0.0000543/share, you had 650 shares, not 450.
December 30, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
Dear Brandon Lu / XY Jiang (aka "friedcat"),
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
For this message to carry any meaning whatsoever, it would need to be signed by the address mentioned above.
I don't think the IRS places that kind of burden-of-proof in its audits (obviously, since digital signatures have not spread to the mainstream yet... even most lawyers (!) I've spoken to don't know what they are). If the IRS required a digital signature during an audit, I could do that then.
As far as friedcat/ASICMINER, he hasn't required digital signatures for share transfers in the past (even if maybe he should have).
December 29, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Dear Brandon Lu / XY Jiang (aka "friedcat"),
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
For this message to carry any meaning whatsoever, it would need to be signed by the address mentioned above.
December 29, 2015, 12:54:44 PM
Dear Brandon Lu / XY Jiang (aka "friedcat"),
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
As of Dec. 29th, 2015 (today), your records should show that I have 450 shares of ASICMINER associated with the shareholder address: 1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq
I am writing to let you know that I am permanently surrendering and relinquishing all rights to these 450 shares and, furthermore, that I have not received any payment or other consideration for them (i.e., they have not been sold or traded to anyone else).
You may update your records accordingly.
chriswilmer
P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you
December 23, 2015, 05:58:25 AM
Dividends incoming!
That actually would be a really interesting turn of events.
Though if that would happen i would imagine someone would send some satoshies to misuse the attention to try to advertise some project of his or so. 
December 16, 2015, 03:12:59 PM
Dividends incoming!
where?here
https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i
is nothing new...
December 16, 2015, 02:49:34 PM
Dividends incoming!
December 15, 2015, 07:47:08 PM
Serious question for US AM hodlers out there... how do you go about "abandoning" this investment for tax purposes? I'd happily sell my shares to someone for a penny, if I could... but I presume that would need a response from friedcat.
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
Sign a message with the private key of the account you hold the shares under selling them to me for $1. PM me your email address and I'll paypal you the payment (or obviously I could pay in btc). In the event FC comes back, your signed message would be sufficient for him to transfer me the shares so the sale should be binding. AFIAK
Be cautious. Friedcat had the dangerous behaviour to simply trust on the email address. I think it might have been possible to fake transfers with SMTP too when he was still around. He did not ask for any proof.
I only write that in case you hope for a good ending. For selling it with losses to you for tax reasons it is a fine thing.
December 14, 2015, 04:32:05 AM
Serious question for US AM hodlers out there... how do you go about "abandoning" this investment for tax purposes? I'd happily sell my shares to someone for a penny, if I could... but I presume that would need a response from friedcat.
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
Sign a message with the private key of the account you hold the shares under selling them to me for $1. PM me your email address and I'll paypal you the payment (or obviously I could pay in btc). In the event FC comes back, your signed message would be sufficient for him to transfer me the shares so the sale should be binding. AFIAK
Sounds reasonable. Let me double check with my lawyer.
Incidentally, I've been reading more about abandonment. I *think* this can be accomplished by sending friedcat an email saying something to the effect of "I relinquish all rights to my shares." Dated + signed with private key preferably.
December 13, 2015, 04:42:37 PM
Serious question for US AM hodlers out there... how do you go about "abandoning" this investment for tax purposes? I'd happily sell my shares to someone for a penny, if I could... but I presume that would need a response from friedcat.
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
Sign a message with the private key of the account you hold the shares under selling them to me for $1. PM me your email address and I'll paypal you the payment (or obviously I could pay in btc). In the event FC comes back, your signed message would be sufficient for him to transfer me the shares so the sale should be binding. AFIAK
December 11, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
Serious question for US AM hodlers out there... how do you go about "abandoning" this investment for tax purposes? I'd happily sell my shares to someone for a penny, if I could... but I presume that would need a response from friedcat.
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
"Abandonment" of an investment is a real thing from the IRS's perspective, I've just never done it before. If you have experience, let me know!
December 11, 2015, 05:22:19 AM
So how big will be the next dividend?
December 11, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Maybe we should ask these guys https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-haobtc-mining-dividend-paid-out-hourly-1023187 if they know something about the whereabout of asicminer's vanished miners that were hosted in mongolia?
I remember thisWasn't it determined these guys have nothing to do with FC's exit?
I don't recall. The location is secret anyway, and if they're dealing with FC and stolen miners I'm pretty sure they won't talk.
It all makes me sick
December 11, 2015, 03:42:40 AM
The real holders are screwed since they have no way to sell. They are true bag holders in this scam.
December 10, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
Maybe we should ask these guys https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-haobtc-mining-dividend-paid-out-hourly-1023187 if they know something about the whereabout of asicminer's vanished miners that were hosted in mongolia?
December 04, 2015, 12:44:37 AM
Havelock cannot delist it because if they delist they have to convert virtual stock to real one, which is impossible without friedcat.
This seems unlikely to be true. Give it another 12 months and they'll delist it...with no issuer actively managing the listing, I don't see how this continues indefinitely.
Havelock bought the listing from TAT back in the day when they took his shares, so as far as the manager it is Havelock, basically they can delist their own asset whenever they want since no one is paying to have it on their exchange.
November 24, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
Havelock cannot delist it because if they delist they have to convert virtual stock to real one, which is impossible without friedcat.
This seems unlikely to be true. Give it another 12 months and they'll delist it...with no issuer actively managing the listing, I don't see how this continues indefinitely.
Havelock bought the listing from TAT back in the day when they took his shares, so as far as the manager it is Havelock, basically they can delist their own asset whenever they want since no one is paying to have it on their exchange.
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