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Quote from: tkone on June 18, 2013, 05:29:13 AM

btc on the rise 104 each, i think it might be a drop or an incline ahead, i dont think 104 is stable

wrong thread, no one here cares about 4 btc price changes

Just repost this every once in a while for people who don't check the old pages

ASICMINER Speculation thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2507875

Also reminder send investor questions to TAT and others

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btc on the rise 104 each, i think it might be a drop or an incline ahead, i dont think 104 is stable

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Quote from: JordanL on June 18, 2013, 04:37:22 AM

Wouldn't that take BTC28,000?

Well, at least it's cheaper than candoo's idea of boosting the divs

Quote from: candoo on June 17, 2013, 10:43:30 AM

Did anyone hear the rumours about a forced buyback for 3.64 btc per share? So he ill pay uy 3.64 btc per share as a dividend and thats all forever.

Would cost them around $60M to do....

NOT gonna happen Tongue

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 18, 2013, 03:18:16 AM

Some malicious attacker should send out a 0.07 BTC/share dividend to ASICMINER share addresses, and dump their shares as people panic buy on PTs Grin

tries to do the math Cry

Wouldn't that take BTC28,000?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 18, 2013, 03:18:16 AM

Some malicious attacker should send out a 0.07 BTC/share dividend to ASICMINER share addresses, and dump their shares as people panic buy on PTs Grin

Why not send out 0.007 and wait for panic sells? Wink

Will be about 10x cheaper for the attacker and have the same effect..

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 18, 2013, 03:18:16 AM

Some malicious attacker should send out a 0.07 BTC/share dividend to ASICMINER share addresses, and dump their shares as people panic buy on PTs Grin

That's the crazy way round! I'm going to set up some buy walls tomorrow & send everyone 1 Satoshi. Tongue

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Well, they are well below the estimated 20%!
I'm not sure how to prove it statistically, but it surely looks like variance is not the sole responsible for the deviation...

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Some malicious attacker should send out a 0.07 BTC/share dividend to ASICMINER share addresses, and dump their shares as people panic buy on PTs Grin

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100% agree, Blockchain.info still didn't fix their API and can only go back (almost) 2 days..
_{(Thats why the 48 hours pie is the same as the 4 days pie)}

The dotted-line gives a nice visualisation of the last 100 found blocks by Asicminer:)

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Quote from: JordanL on June 18, 2013, 12:41:10 AM

Quote from: CanadianGuy on June 18, 2013, 12:26:46 AM

wtf, hash rate is purely hardware based, and is not affected by the bitcoin/mining economy at all. Or I've had it all wrong this entire time Shocked

Hash rate is purely hardware based. ASICMINER (probably) knows their exact hash rate at all times, but the charts we have access to are all estimates of ASICMINER's hash rate, based on the blocks they find and the total bitcoin network difficultly. Since the amount of blocks a solo-miner (like ASICMINER) actually solves is based to some degree on luck, the hashrate we see in the charts is likely to have a great deal more variance than the true ASICMINER hash rate.

At least that's my understanding of it.

you are right. The approximation for three days or a week week should be pretty exact, but 24 hour aproximation is very dependent on luck...

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Quote from: CanadianGuy on June 18, 2013, 12:26:46 AM

wtf, hash rate is purely hardware based, and is not affected by the bitcoin/mining economy at all. Or I've had it all wrong this entire time Shocked

Hash rate is purely hardware based. ASICMINER (probably) knows their exact hash rate at all times, but the charts we have access to are all estimates of ASICMINER's hash rate, based on the blocks they find and the total bitcoin network difficultly. Since the amount of blocks a solo-miner (like ASICMINER) actually solves is based to some degree on luck, the hashrate we see in the charts is likely to have a great deal more variance than the true ASICMINER hash rate.

At least that's my understanding of it.

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Quote from: CanadianGuy on June 18, 2013, 12:26:46 AM

wtf, hash rate is purely hardware based, and is not affected by the bitcoin/mining economy at all. Or I've had it all wrong this entire time Shocked

"Hash rate estimate"

It is estimate based on blocks found.

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wtf, hash rate is purely hardware based, and is not affected by the bitcoin/mining economy at all. Or I've had it all wrong this entire time Shocked

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Ah, duh... It hadn't occurred to me that the hash rate was an estimate based on total network hash power and blocks found.

Consider me enlightened, thanks.

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Quote from: dhenson on June 17, 2013, 11:20:02 PM

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

Has there been any news as to why we've gone from 37.12 GH/s to 21.89 GH/s? Friedcat's last post mentioned no more hardware sales, so I wouldn't have expected blades to be taken offline. Are they moving equipment?

I feel like I must be missing some news as nobody seems tweaked by the drop and this forum is known for insta-tweaking.

could be just bad luck

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Quote from: dhenson on June 17, 2013, 11:20:02 PM

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

Has there been any news as to why we've gone from 37.12 GH/s to 21.89 GH/s? Friedcat's last post mentioned no more hardware sales, so I wouldn't have expected blades to be taken offline. Are they moving equipment?

I feel like I must be missing some news as nobody seems tweaked by the drop and this forum is known for insta-tweaking.

I'm guessing it's mostly variance. The 24-hour average has crossed the 3-day and 7-day averages quite a bit in the last 24 hours, so AM's luck is more likely just evening out. That's a more likely explanation than hash appearing then disappearing (that could be part of it, though, it's not easy to tell).

I have just started mining myself with a couple of USB sticks mostly as an educational exercise. I know my variance is higher as my pools are smaller than AM's solo mine but both pools I've tried have had wild swings of fortune over a few days. I think even at AM's size you need to look at longer timescales than a couple of days to be sure that hash rate is disappearing. And of course because over a week or two you'd expect them to deploying more hardware it only gets harder to tell where they should be at.

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Was there no update from friedcat last week??

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http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

Has there been any news as to why we've gone from 37.12 GH/s to 21.89 GH/s? Friedcat's last post mentioned no more hardware sales, so I wouldn't have expected blades to be taken offline. Are they moving equipment?

I feel like I must be missing some news as nobody seems tweaked by the drop and this forum is known for insta-tweaking.

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Quote from: SmiGueL on June 17, 2013, 04:54:13 PM

Quote from: Thujone on June 17, 2013, 03:47:29 PM

Is the person who updates the Google Spreadsheet for hashrate taking a vacation or has it been dropped?

Busy busy busy Wink

I'm working on an 1, 3 and 7 day average chart, but that 'll take some days..

Asicminer hahsrate is bouncing like crazy these days so it's a bit difficult to estimate the hashrate..

Until I can figure out what's up with the JSON output I'm producing for you -- I've put this up if anyone cares to look at 4 days worth of data:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/

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Quote from: SmiGueL on June 17, 2013, 04:54:13 PM

Quote from: Thujone on June 17, 2013, 03:47:29 PM

Is the person who updates the Google Spreadsheet for hashrate taking a vacation or has it been dropped?

Busy busy busy Wink

I'm working on an 1, 3 and 7 day average graph, but that 'll take some days..

Asicminer hahsrate is bouncing like crazy these days so it's a bit difficult to estimate the hashrate..

Thanks for the quick answer. Was hoping it wouldn't disappear. Love all the work you do, thank you thank you!

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