ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 21.

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Quote from: tsm13 on August 22, 2014, 11:46:36 AM

this has been playing in my head the last few days, the coca cola song slightly modified

Lyrics: AsicMiner ( Dividends Song)

Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming

Tease the season
Watch out
Look around
Something's coming
Coming to town (Coming to your town)

Dooh dooh dooh...
Always Asicminer (Coming to your town)

Something magic
In the night
Can't you see it
Shining bright (Shining bright)

Badada...
Always Asicminer

Tease the season it's always the real thing

lol very optimistic

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this has been playing in my head the last few days, the coca cola song slightly modified

Lyrics: AsicMiner ( Dividends Song)

Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming
Dividends are coming

Tease the season
Watch out
Look around
Something's coming
Coming to town (Coming to your town)

Dooh dooh dooh...
Always Asicminer (Coming to your town)

Something magic
In the night
Can't you see it
Shining bright (Shining bright)

Badada...
Always Asicminer

Tease the season it's always the real thing

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Quote from: Lohoris on August 22, 2014, 02:23:14 AM

Quote from: freedomno1 on August 21, 2014, 04:59:36 PM

Looks at the AM100 Orderbook
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

How is AM100 relevant?
I'd stick to AM1, AM100 is for spare change if you really want to.
(or to trick newbs)

Probally to trick newbs
Just pointing out how thin that sell order wall was compared to the buy side
Seemed like some obvious pushing ^^.

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Quote from: freedomno1 on August 21, 2014, 04:59:36 PM

Looks at the AM100 Orderbook
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

How is AM100 relevant?
I'd stick to AM1, AM100 is for spare change if you really want to.
(or to trick newbs)

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 21, 2014, 11:56:22 PM

If FC is mining since middle of July when do you estimate that he will share the hashrate?

Probably when it's not zero?

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Quote from: hdbuck on August 21, 2014, 05:31:41 PM

Well, as far as i know there is only this:

Quote from: friedcat on July 29, 2014, 01:22:55 AM

Update

1. Due to the relatively lower interest from individual miners as well as OEM producers, the self mining has re-started from middle of July. We had gain access of cheap electricity and high power capacity. We hope to regain the average hashrate percentage similar to 2013 with this generation of chips.

If FC is mining since middle of July when do you estimate that he will share the hashrate?

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Quote from: silverfuture on August 21, 2014, 09:29:42 PM

Quote from: 101111 on August 21, 2014, 09:26:28 PM

It'd be sweet if FC has a few of those containers bubbling with BE300's, and a roadmap for Gen4 in play.

I think you mean BE200's? BE300 will be Gen4

Yes you're right, I think my imagination was running away with me!

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Quote from: 101111 on August 21, 2014, 09:26:28 PM

It'd be sweet if FC has a few of those containers bubbling with BE300's, and a roadmap for Gen4 in play.

I think you mean BE200's? BE300 will be Gen4

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It'd be sweet if FC has a few of those containers bubbling with BE300's, and a roadmap for Gen4 in play.

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Quote from: Chalkbot on August 21, 2014, 05:23:57 PM

Has there been any information regarding new Asicminer datacenter(s) and/or power capacity?
I think that would be the critical bottleneck at the moment, since we know they have many tens of PH worth of chips, and we know their approximate efficiency and the approximate capacity of their old farms. I think they could only bring online ~2PH worth if they haven't acquired more locations/capacity since last gen.
I'd love to believe AM is behind the recent big rises in network hash rate, but that would require significant developments on this front as well...
Obviously my information is dated, please correct any facts I've messed up.

Well, as far as i know there is only this:

Quote from: friedcat on July 29, 2014, 01:22:55 AM

Update

1. Due to the relatively lower interest from individual miners as well as OEM producers, the self mining has re-started from middle of July. We had gain access of cheap electricity and high power capacity. We hope to regain the average hashrate percentage similar to 2013 with this generation of chips.

Quote from: friedcat on July 29, 2014, 01:50:26 AM

To dear shareholders:

We indeed had a hard time starting from the end of 2013. The BE200 performance was inferior than expected, and our prediction for the capacity of OEM producers and the individual mining market was a big miss. However, we had not stopped our work on designing our own products and finding proper farms after our chips passed the tests. Meantime we had tried many cooperations with OEMs (premium+balance payment, chip franchising) but the overall improvement on volume was not significant. Now the new hardware solution matures and we got the resources on deploying, we can turn the newly produced chips to the market where the highest margin is.

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Quote from: hdbuck on August 21, 2014, 05:22:50 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:17:55 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on August 21, 2014, 05:11:57 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

I don't think that it works that way. In order to keep the price low, you'd constantly have to dump shares. And by doing that you actually lose shares, and don't pile up on them!

It works exactly that way. Not always successfully, of course. But today it worked. And it worked many times before.

Dump, pull your bids, people will follow, then collect at the bottom. Not too difficult in this thin Havelock market.

plus they get to sell some to themselves, so they dont loose so much shares after all.. Grin

Exactly. Also I forgot the putting up of fake asks. Those (when eaten or nibbled on) are the manipulator's actual real "loss".

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Has there been any information regarding new Asicminer datacenter(s) and/or power capacity?

I think that would be the critical bottleneck at the moment, since we know they have many tens of PH worth of chips, and we know their approximate efficiency and the approximate capacity of their old farms. I think they could only bring online ~2PH worth if they haven't acquired more locations/capacity since last gen.

I'd love to believe AM is behind the recent big rises in network hash rate, but that would require significant developments on this front as well...

Obviously my information is dated, please correct any facts I've messed up.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:17:55 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on August 21, 2014, 05:11:57 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

I don't think that it works that way. In order to keep the price low, you'd constantly have to dump shares. And by doing that you actually lose shares, and don't pile up on them!

It works exactly that way. Not always successfully, of course. But today it worked. And it worked many times before.

Dump, pull your bids, people will follow, then collect at the bottom. Not too difficult in this thin Havelock market.

plus they get to sell some to themselves, so they dont loose so much shares after all.. Grin

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Quote from: FUR11 on August 21, 2014, 05:11:57 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

I don't think that it works that way. In order to keep the price low, you'd constantly have to dump shares. And by doing that you actually lose shares, and don't pile up on them!

It works exactly that way. Not always successfully, of course. But today it worked. And it worked many times before.

Dump, pull your bids, people will follow, then collect at the bottom. Not too difficult in this thin Havelock market.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

I don't think that it works that way. In order to keep the price low, you'd constantly have to dump shares. And by doing that you actually lose shares, and don't pile up on them!

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 05:08:49 PM

I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

i think its pretty much the same for bitcoin now too ^^

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I am convinced that somebody is trying to push and keep the price low to buy cheap shares himself (quite successfully actually). But everybody decide for himself...

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 01:31:21 PM

Quote from: jjdub7 on August 21, 2014, 01:14:27 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 12:36:45 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 07:11:12 AM

Another dump of 60 shares on Havelock.
I don't get it...

Now I do get it. Anybody else sees this dilettanteishly obvious manipulation? Grin

I mean, either that or they bought them all at the BTC0.16 level. Because profit.

That shares are dumped is no indication for a manipulation alone. But that e.g. just minutes after the last buy a lower ask is placed than the last price - that makes me at least suspicious... Wink

Looks at the AM100 Orderbook
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Buy Side
2014-08-21 17:31:13
100/100   ฿0.00240002   ฿0.2400
2014-08-21 13:33:01
175/175   ฿0.00240001   ฿0.4200

Sell Side
2014-08-21 17:33:09
3/3   ฿0.00258000   ฿0.0077
2014-08-21 16:17:15
4/4   ฿0.00260000   ฿0.0104
2014-08-21 10:36:02
2/2   ฿0.00287110   ฿0.0057
2014-08-21 10:35:53
2/2   ฿0.00287220   ฿0.0057
2014-08-21 10:35:45
2/2   ฿0.00287330   ฿0.0057
2014-08-21 10:35:25
2/2   ฿0.00287440   ฿0.0057
2014-08-21 10:35:05
2/2   ฿0.00287550   ฿0.0058
2014-08-21 10:34:52
2/2   ฿0.00287660   ฿0.0058
2014-08-21 10:34:43
2/2   ฿0.00287770   ฿0.0058
2014-08-21 10:34:33
2/2   ฿0.00287880   ฿0.0058

In other words that is a very thin buy wall 22 shares lol.

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Quote from: jjdub7 on August 21, 2014, 01:14:27 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 12:36:45 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 07:11:12 AM

Another dump of 60 shares on Havelock.
I don't get it...

Now I do get it. Anybody else sees this dilettanteishly obvious manipulation? Grin

I mean, either that or they bought them all at the BTC0.16 level. Because profit.

That shares are dumped is no indication for a manipulation alone. But that e.g. just minutes after the last buy a lower ask is placed than the last price - that makes me at least suspicious... Wink

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 12:36:45 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 07:11:12 AM

Another dump of 60 shares on Havelock.
I don't get it...

Now I do get it. Anybody else sees this dilettanteishly obvious manipulation? Grin

I mean, either that or they bought them all at the BTC0.16 level. Because profit.

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