Hasn't fc bought advertising space on the auctions board some time ago?
would perhaps be a good time to use them soon.
would perhaps be a good time to use them soon.
I think he lost that auction, didn't he?
Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 71. (Read 808905 times)
I think he lost that auction, didn't he?
they are not selling it says PREORDER
wtcr are board members and obviously had some knowledge and wanted to grab as many sales as possible by taking preorders. this info has been known for a while
wtcr are board members and obviously had some knowledge and wanted to grab as many sales as possible by taking preorders. this info has been known for a while
well good we figured this out then.
let's get back to how we can cage the aggressive hashing monsters in huge containers.
how about we lure them in there with constant quadruple digits?
they are not selling it says PREORDER
wtcr are board members and obviously had some knowledge and wanted to grab as many sales as possible by taking preorders. this info has been known for a while
wtcr are board members and obviously had some knowledge and wanted to grab as many sales as possible by taking preorders. this info has been known for a while
Wasn't the cube supposed to be announced this weekend? Anybody got any news on this please share.
what news do you want, it's selling now ~435$
Where/who is selling this for 435, please and thank you. I guess the 'official asicminer hardware' thread isn't the place I should be looking then apparently.
lol...that's the well-discussed communication problem between shareholder and company live in action
Hasn't fc bought advertising space on the auctions board some time ago?
would perhaps be a good time to use them soon.
When cubes are already selling why hasn't fc made any announcement on this forum yet?
he was online yesterday but no posts since financial report.
Wasn't the cube supposed to be announced this weekend? Anybody got any news on this please share.
what news do you want, it's selling now ~435$
Where/who is selling this for 435, please and thank you. I guess the 'official asicminer hardware' thread isn't the place I should be looking then apparently.
It is listed for CAD $756 or 1.99 BTC.
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
Wasn't the cube supposed to be announced this weekend? Anybody got any news on this please share.
what news do you want, it's selling now ~435$
Where/who is selling this for 435, please and thank you. I guess the 'official asicminer hardware' thread isn't the place I should be looking then apparently.
Wasn't the cube supposed to be announced this weekend? Anybody got any news on this please share.
what news do you want, it's selling now ~435$
Wasn't the cube supposed to be announced this weekend? Anybody got any news on this please share.
I think that every single rack might be filled with gen1 at the moment and here is why.
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
Hmmm, we have 92blades on one "big blade", here >
how many of these big blades fits in one "bath container", if you think that only one, then you're right, but i see space for maybe 6?
When we're considering that each rack has 3 of these containers, you'll get : 13x92x6x3x20 = 430560(overclocked)/331200(normal) or 331Th ... exactly what you need for 10% of the network, like we had for few hours yesterday
Unless you plan in immersing the PSUs, you'd need a redesign too.
I think that every single rack might be filled with gen1 at the moment and here is why.
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
Hmmm, we have 92blades on one "big blade", here >
how many of these big blades fits in one "bath container", if you think that only one, then you're right, but i see space for maybe 6?
When we're considering that each rack has 3 of these containers, you'll get : 13x92x6x3x20 = 430560(overclocked)/331200(normal) or 331Th ... exactly what you need for 10% of the network, like we had for few hours yesterday
So how much power would be required per rack to run these in normal/overclocked mode?
I think that every single rack might be filled with gen1 at the moment and here is why.
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
Hmmm, we have 92blades on one "big blade", here >
how many of these big blades fits in one "bath container", if you think that only one, then you're right, but i see space for maybe 6?
When we're considering that each rack has 3 of these containers, you'll get : 13x92x6x3x20 = 430560(overclocked)/331200(normal) or 331Th ... exactly what you need for 10% of the network, like we had for few hours yesterday
Guys just a little speculation for you enjoy
Yesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
enjoyYesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
To support your speculation, let's think what's in the following pics:
My speculation is, that's many containers of blades with immersion cooling put into racks. I don't know how many of them are actually filled with blades, but all FC now need to do, is start filling them up. The dry coolers you mentioned are inevitable part of it, too. So turning on some of these would easily get us your mentioned hashrate. I hope we will finally see some AM hashrate's rise soon.
I think that every single rack might be filled with gen1 at the moment and here is why.
I found that each row has 92 blades and each rack has 3 rows with 20 racks. Assuming the blades are getting around 13gh/s per you would get:
13 x 92 x 3 x 20 = 71,760 which is pretty close to what FC said AM was hashing at (I think he said previously 67th/s).
you sir understand an absolute total sum of shit on a stick when it comes to hardware
You might be right, but could you sir please elaborate? After all, this is what this thread is all about. I'm afraid that with your insults, you are rather off topic.
Guys just a little speculation for you enjoy
Yesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
enjoyYesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
That would be luck. They don't seem to have mined anything for the next 12 hours thereafter and the avg hashrate for the last 25blocks is 83TH/s. It went up to 125TH for the last 5 blocks and is down again for the last 3. If they really had 380+TH, the avg hashrate for the last blocks would reflect it.
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Guys just a little speculation for you enjoy
Yesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
enjoyYesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
To support your speculation, let's think what's in the following pics:
My speculation is, that's many containers of blades with immersion cooling put into racks. I don't know how many of them are actually filled with blades, but all FC now need to do, is start filling them up. The dry coolers you mentioned are inevitable part of it, too. So turning on some of these would easily get us your mentioned hashrate. I hope we will finally see some AM hashrate's rise soon.
My speculation is, that's many containers of blades with immersion cooling put into racks. I don't know how many of them are actually filled with blades, but all FC now need to do, is start filling them up. The dry coolers you mentioned are inevitable part of it, too. So turning on some of these would easily get us your mentioned hashrate. I hope we will finally see some AM hashrate's rise soon.
You're right. It was not containers, it was probably HK datacenter.
Lets assume that AM have 2 rows with 10 racks as picture shows. That give us 60 small-bath-containers (3 for each rack as on picture). Lets assume ~300 Th in 60 "small containers", so its 5Th for one.
On the other photos we see that each "small container" is filled with some ... "big blades" with 92 gen1 blades, so it gives us ~1Th per big blade, how many of them are in one "small bath container", 6? So now we have 6Th per small container, 18Th per rack and around 360Th for two "fully populated rows".
The last mentioned batch for gen1 was 500Th, so 300Th for HK datacenter and 200Th for 4 containers(4x50Th) seems right, the question is, where are they mining right now?
Guys just a little speculation for you enjoy
Yesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
enjoyYesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
To support your speculation, let's think what's in the following pics:
http://image.photovisi.com/ce2c3e03-7e24-4710-a850-ad5077a3d51dwallpaper.jpg
My speculation is, that's many containers of blades with immersion cooling put into racks. I don't know how many of them are actually filled with blades, but all FC now need to do, is to start filling them up. The dry coolers you mentioned are inevitable part of it, too. So turning on some of these would easily give us your mentioned hashrate. I hope we will finally see some AM hashrate's rise soon.
Guys just a little speculation for you enjoy
Yesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
enjoyYesterday the AM mined 5blocks from 44 ... in timeframe from ~12:00 to ~19:00, so it was ~1/9 of whole network ... the network hashrate is estimated to be around 3.5 Ph so the 1/9 is around 388Th , we had around 88 before so here we have extra ~300 Th ... i did some calculations and here is the speculation : On one of the photos in immersion cooling exhibition we see 4 dry coolers, so lets assume the power of 4 containers... for one container its 5000 gen1 blades each 10-12Gh, so full container of Gen1 blades is hashing around 60 Th, for 300 Th we need 5 containers plugged & hashing, its close to 4, right? So why they was mining only couple of hours?
I don't believe in this kind of luck. The time between blocks was constant and we mined so many block in relatively short time period like we're mining per week.
Another nice thing about going down the enterprise route is that AM can kill their competitors on volume.
How many chips can you fit in a shipping container with immersion cooling?
When mining is a low-margin activity, the cost of manufacture by definition will become significant, and the profit-per-chip will be lower. Therefore being able to deploy a lot of product will be crucial to profits. The small hobbyist miner market will probably be saturated or not growing very much at that stage.
I do wonder if it might be a little early for enterprise to take over (the margins on low-volume high-performance chips must still be very high) but it's certainly a vision of what enterprise mining might look like in a couple of years.
How many chips can you fit in a shipping container with immersion cooling?
When mining is a low-margin activity, the cost of manufacture by definition will become significant, and the profit-per-chip will be lower. Therefore being able to deploy a lot of product will be crucial to profits. The small hobbyist miner market will probably be saturated or not growing very much at that stage.
I do wonder if it might be a little early for enterprise to take over (the margins on low-volume high-performance chips must still be very high) but it's certainly a vision of what enterprise mining might look like in a couple of years.
I will put it extremely simple for you. The gold rush is over. No longer will AM be able to make shitloads from selling shovels because there is already a massive surplus of shovels. Now it will come down to the most efficient large scale mining operations.
The only reason AM made so much money was the gold rush, a massive influx of people thinking they would be getting rich by buying hardware that they thought would reach ROI in 15 days. This scenario will never happen again.
I completely agree. That's why AM is moving towards enterprise solutions. They're setting up to sell fleets of bulldozers, while everyone is focused on shovels.The only reason AM made so much money was the gold rush, a massive influx of people thinking they would be getting rich by buying hardware that they thought would reach ROI in 15 days. This scenario will never happen again.
Smiled at the metaphor.
Fingers crossed.
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