ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 83.

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Quote from: keeron on October 23, 2013, 03:43:32 PM

Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)

Is this mean they can massive producing better ASIC in the future ? I think the talent pool in AM is the key issue ...and there still no anything about 2 gen has been released... this what I am really concern will AM meet its scheduled in time?

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Quote from: keeron on October 23, 2013, 03:43:32 PM

Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)

Well the good news is that if Friedcat has not tapped into those BTC for reinvestment yet (i.e. converted to RMB or USD), he will get a lot more bang for the buck now that the prices have doubled over the last couple of weeks. There is always a silver lining

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Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)

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Quote from: lophie on October 23, 2013, 11:51:19 AM

the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs Grin

Oh yah Loph you should go pick up your prize from that other thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3389349

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Quote from: lophie on October 23, 2013, 11:51:19 AM

the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs Grin

But with an associated increase in risk. The risk/reward paradigm remains intact.

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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs Grin

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Yeah thanks I'm looking forward to that with great interest.

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Quote from: 101111 on October 23, 2013, 08:10:39 AM

Yes, FC has deservedly done well. But I was referring to the reserves Asicminer development funds.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. It's hard to say. We will know more on sunday, when detailed financial report will be presented.

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Yes, FC has deservedly done well. But I was referring to the reserves Asicminer development funds.

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Every share since the beggining earned 0.63 BTC in dividends. Let's say friedcat didn't earn IPO's first 0.1 BTC, so 0.53 BTC per share. I don't know how much of asicminers 236000 shares he owns, but I suppose it's one third. That means he earned 40 thousand BTCs in dividends. I don't think he needs to sell any shares to live happily ever after Grin

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You are probbaly right; but do you think FC may lower his take since the btc price has risen?

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Quote from: 101111 on October 23, 2013, 07:50:18 AM

Div prediction? I'm thinking around .007

My name is Div. Div Idend.

It's gonna be lower, same as last time.

101111

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Div prediction? I'm thinking around .007

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while I'm here, this is worth viewing if you haven't seen it:

Bullish on bitcoin
22 October 2013

Richard Brown, executive architect, IBM thinks the future for crypto-currencies looks very bright.

http://www.finextra.com/Video/Video.aspx?videoid=513

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looks like again shares are pushing lower ahead of dividends... Havelock at .6 may see it hit .5 before asicminer gets going again with higher dividends in a month

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Quote from: Vycid on October 21, 2013, 08:57:15 PM

Quote from: tinus42 on October 21, 2013, 08:52:37 PM

Quote from: Vycid on October 21, 2013, 05:42:49 PM

Quote from: Rival on October 21, 2013, 11:26:29 AM

I don't think at the moment there is any model that can even determine the fair value of a share of AM within an order of magnitude. There is just too much we do not know at this time.

And yet STILL you cling to your irrationality! Bitfunder currently suggests a share price of 0.75/BTC, a price at this point still looks fairly generous to me.

Bitfunder prices are depreciated because of the new site rules demanding verification and excluding US residents. But I'm sure you know that already. Roll Eyes

Then that would imply an order-of-magnitude fair price potentially HIGHER than 7.5 BTC, is that your point?

Havelock is trading at right about 0.75 BTC too, though, so I don't see that "depreciation" you're talking about. If anything the differential is smaller than it was when both BTCT and Bitfunder were running normally.

I'd guess the Havelock price and the prices on the Auctions board are affected by what happened to BTCT and Bitfunder. Eventually this will settle down.

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So... does anybody know what ASICMiner's plans are for future mining hardware?

freedomno1

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Waiting on the financials to determine just how much is cash and how much is reserve before making any valuations here

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Quote from: Vycid on October 21, 2013, 05:42:49 PM

And yet STILL you cling to your irrationality! Bitfunder currently suggests a share price of 0.75/BTC, a price at this point still looks fairly generous to me.

So you still value it at 0.5 BTC?

Did you factor in the new ventures they are going to explore?

i.e. you factor them exactly 0, or you factor them to a positive, but you dropped your valutation of the original mining business, so that they add up anyway to 0.5?

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Quote from: Vycid on October 21, 2013, 08:57:15 PM

Havelock is trading at right about 0.75 BTC too, though, so I don't see that "depreciation" you're talking about. If anything the differential is smaller than it was when both BTCT and Bitfunder were running normally.

so did you buy any shares in the end?

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Quote from: tinus42 on October 21, 2013, 08:52:37 PM

Quote from: Vycid on October 21, 2013, 05:42:49 PM

Quote from: Rival on October 21, 2013, 11:26:29 AM

I don't think at the moment there is any model that can even determine the fair value of a share of AM within an order of magnitude. There is just too much we do not know at this time.

And yet STILL you cling to your irrationality! Bitfunder currently suggests a share price of 0.75/BTC, a price at this point still looks fairly generous to me.

Bitfunder prices are depreciated because of the new site rules demanding verification and excluding US residents. But I'm sure you know that already. Roll Eyes

Then that would imply an order-of-magnitude fair price potentially HIGHER than 7.5 BTC, is that your point?

Havelock is trading at right about 0.75 BTC too, though, so I don't see that "depreciation" you're talking about. If anything the differential is smaller than it was when both BTCT and Bitfunder were running normally.

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