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sr. member
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October 16, 2013, 05:23:39 AM
Div prediction?

I'm thinking ~0.003, it will hurt  Cry

I'm going to be positive today and say .004
hero member
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bitcoin hodler
October 16, 2013, 04:21:51 AM
Div prediction?

I'm thinking ~0.003, it will hurt  Cry
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October 16, 2013, 04:08:34 AM
Div prediction?
legendary
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October 16, 2013, 03:57:20 AM
Whew share price got just hammered today. Really hurts to see it.

Funny how it always seems to dive when BTC/USD price spikes.  Not sure if that has been established to be coincidental or what, but seems to have some effect.

But geez, trading for a 1/7th of the price it once was not that long ago... sigh. Well so it goes I guess. I didn't want all that spare money anyways!
legendary
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October 16, 2013, 03:48:48 AM
Anyone has a link to latest (close to month old now) balance sheet and PL? It was published somewhere here...
Thank you.
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
October 15, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
As a disclaimer to everyone using the $1.50/GH figure,

That is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM AM could have been paying per GH. I calculated that figure with the sole intention of establishing whether or not AM was indeed overvalued, and therefore I made conservative approximations.

To reiterate, $1.50 is the LEAST they could have paid, though I do believe it was a reasonable estimate. If you use that figure to try to establish whether AM is now undervalued, you do so at your own peril.

The reason for the uncertainty is that the cost of manufacturing blades and the cost of manufacturing USB miners were conflated in FC's financial statements. I basically assumed the cost of USB miners was negligible on a per-unit basis compared to the cost of the blades. Obviously that is a conservative approximation (though I do believe it is accurate to assume the USB miners were cheaper to produce than the blades) and will produce a low estimate of their costs per GH.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
October 15, 2013, 10:32:25 PM
Cleaning this up must cost something too... but probably not in china. Those idiots dump everything into a closest river. 

 This would be funny if it were not true Sad
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
October 15, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
Interesting, 1.50 per Gh sounds like a really good deal.
If they made so awesome profits, why is AM stock still heading south?

Difficulty is at 2/PH was 1 PH last month, easy estimate is 4/PH by year end
Some tentative consensus we might get 10/PH by year end if everyone can deliver what they promise which means revenue is starting to get squeezed.
That said it explains why Friedcat is testing multiple designs

But that said back to speculation
Think that's the highest variance spike I've seen so far 90.33 TH
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=7
legendary
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October 15, 2013, 05:15:04 PM
Interesting, 1.50 per Gh sounds like a really good deal.
If they made so awesome profits, why is AM stock still heading south?
sr. member
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October 15, 2013, 04:19:20 PM
That's called "selling at market price" and there is absolutely nothing immoral about it.
sr. member
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October 15, 2013, 03:07:51 PM
As many as humanly possible! They were (are) selling for more than they could ever mine.
I think that's what they did/are doing.
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October 15, 2013, 10:35:16 AM
As many as humanly possible! They were (are) selling for more than they could ever mine.

You're saying the initial blades only cost $15 to manufacture? Surely ASICMiner would have made a lot more, given their selling price.
well, they did make 10's of thousands of btc.  How much should they have made?
sr. member
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October 14, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
You're saying the initial blades only cost $15 to manufacture? Surely ASICMiner would have made a lot more, given their selling price.
well, they did make 10's of thousands of btc.  How much should they have made?
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October 14, 2013, 09:19:54 PM
You're saying the initial blades only cost $15 to manufacture? Surely ASICMiner would have made a lot more, given their selling price.

You can't be serious
I am serious.  That's what people were paying for them.

Any ideas what was the total cost for those "blades"? 3 USD per Gh?
initial batches were estimated around $1.50/GH. I don't know about the latest batch.

sr. member
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October 14, 2013, 12:49:35 PM
You can't be serious
I am serious.  That's what people were paying for them.

Any ideas what was the total cost for those "blades"? 3 USD per Gh?
initial batches were estimated around $1.50/GH. I don't know about the latest batch.
legendary
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October 13, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
Good to know, that they managed to get rid of all this stuff before it becomes useless.
 
blades are still worth several btc each, so not exactly "useless"
You can't be serious, unless those are sold at <100 USD and S&H, toll, VAT etc is close to 0 and at your door step tomorrow. Not going to happen.
If you order now and receive your boards in Nov...  you have to pay less than 40 USD per board or you never make your money back.

Any ideas what was the total cost for those "blades"? 3 USD per Gh?

Have fun @ http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/   Wink

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October 13, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
Good to know, that they managed to get rid of all this stuff before it becomes useless.
 
blades are still worth several btc each, so not exactly "useless"
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October 13, 2013, 01:56:29 PM
BTC Guild:  http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home

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Block Erupter Price Cuts / Blades Sold Out

USB Block Erupters have recently experienced another price cut, now at 0.12 BTC (free shipping within US). ASICMINER is stopping the production of new units, so remaining inventory is limited. ASICMINER Blades have now completely sold out as well.

Oh, I see.  Yes, they have stopped production of that generation, but are about to produce/release 500 TH of new product.  It may not be blades, though.
legendary
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October 13, 2013, 12:50:25 PM
Good to know, that they managed to get rid of all this stuff before it becomes useless.

Historical Difficulty Increase (October 13, 2013)
30 Day    118 %
60 Day    273 %
90 Day    624 %

Ouch...

Maybe they can sell their own rigs too? Take the coin now and concentrate on next chip?
If difficulty keeps going up as it is, they will have a data center full of worthless junk.
Cleaning this up must cost something too... but probably not in china. Those idiots dump everything into a closest river. 
hero member
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October 13, 2013, 10:57:22 AM
From what I understand no more usb sticks will be produced after the last batch and the same will be for blades in a short time I think.
source?

BTC Guild:  http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home

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Block Erupter Price Cuts / Blades Sold Out

USB Block Erupters have recently experienced another price cut, now at 0.12 BTC (free shipping within US). ASICMINER is stopping the production of new units, so remaining inventory is limited. ASICMINER Blades have now completely sold out as well.
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