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Quote from: bernard75 on July 10, 2013, 12:15:51 AM

This has nothing to do with coverage, this is just basic common sense.

Quote from: Spendulus on July 09, 2013, 10:06:32 PM

I can tell you that in two separate periods of time some years ago, I did carry a gun, and never thought it was a big deal. Definitely was in some situations where packing that firearm was a seriously good thing. Never had to pull it out, never used it and hope I never have to. So there is a bit of actual reality for you. Today I don't generally carry but on occasion do. Lots of people I know have the same general point of view.

But im really not looking to discuss your adventures in the criminal world any further.

Lol, it wasn't criminal activities. They've mostly all got some kind of firearms.

But what we need to discuss is why opinionators on the Internet think they know better than I about what I should or can or will do. Or what what any average person should or can or will do.

Of course it doesn't matter anyway, because ordinary people will do what they can or should within their legal rights.

So chatter away.

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Ah, that old "basic common sense" canard, used to justify all crimes against human rights, up to genocide. Thanks for justifying your boycott. /ignore

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This has nothing to do with coverage, this is just basic common sense.

Quote from: Spendulus on July 09, 2013, 10:06:32 PM

I can tell you that in two separate periods of time some years ago, I did carry a gun, and never thought it was a big deal. Definitely was in some situations where packing that firearm was a seriously good thing. Never had to pull it out, never used it and hope I never have to. So there is a bit of actual reality for you. Today I don't generally carry but on occasion do. Lots of people I know have the same general point of view.

But im really not looking to discuss your adventures in the criminal world any further.

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Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:56:12 PM

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Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:51:39 PM

Still astonished how many highly educated people here can be so irrational.

Meaning?

Meaning when it comes to guns and Americans all logic, facts and reasoning goes overboard.

I'm not sure that I fully comprehend your European perspective from your biased and weirded out coverage of US stuff. Guns bad, Obama God, etc. Does not matter one bit, really.

I can tell you that in two separate periods of time some years ago, I did carry a gun, and never thought it was a big deal. Definitely was in some situations where packing that firearm was a seriously good thing. Never had to pull it out, never used it and hope I never have to. So there is a bit of actual reality for you. Today I don't generally carry but on occasion do. Lots of people I know have the same general point of view. Some women get assaulted or raped, then they get a permit. They learn the hard way, you might say.

See, it does not matter that you think you know better or your country is better or whatever. I have also enjoyed walking down streets that were safe and where it wouldn't ever be considered to carry a weapon. So WHAT?

Other people live in other places with other conditions.

Part of the progressive, socialist mindset that is simply wrong is the idea that one solution fits everyone and every place somehow.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on July 09, 2013, 08:32:01 PM

Yeah, how dare pro-liberty people believe all government statistics and peer-reviewed, non-debunked research that shows innocents with guns are bad for criminals, and "gun control" only enables the innocents it disarms to be murdered, raped, and maimed with impunity, if we're not thrown in prison first, for the "crime" of self-defense. We're just a bunch of fucking morons for believing that defending innocent life is more important than enabling criminals who write, and support "gun control" laws 100%.

So where do you think criminals get their guns?

Pretty much only from gun owners and gun freaks and gun sellers. They sure as hell don't get them from those of us who neither own nor want a gun.

Next time you complain about criminals with guns, remember who armed them.

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Yeah, how dare pro-liberty people believe all government statistics and peer-reviewed, non-debunked research that shows innocents with guns are bad for criminals, and "gun control" only enables the innocents it disarms to be murdered, raped, and maimed with impunity, if we're not thrown in prison first, for the "crime" of self-defense. We're just a bunch of fucking morons for believing that defending innocent life is more important than enabling criminals who write, and support "gun control" laws 100%.

And how dare we believe the endless stream of reports of gun "thefts" and gun trafficking from and by THE GOVERNMENT, which are used to justify further disarmament of ONLY innocents via "gun control".

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You USA people are scary to criminals when it comes to your human right to bear arms. UK has the best gun laws to enable criminals' utopia- ban'em.

Fixed to describe reality.

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Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:56:12 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on July 09, 2013, 06:52:43 PM

Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:51:39 PM

Still astonished how many highly educated people here can be so irrational.

Meaning?

Meaning when it comes to guns and Americans all logic, facts and reasoning goes overboard.

Indeed - I wish I could understand that about our Atlantic cousins too...

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Quote from: nottm28 on July 09, 2013, 06:52:43 PM

Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:51:39 PM

Still astonished how many highly educated people here can be so irrational.

Meaning?

Meaning when it comes to guns and Americans all logic, facts and reasoning goes overboard.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 09, 2013, 06:45:48 PM

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You USA people are scary when it comes to your human right to bear arms. UK has the best gun laws - ban'em.

Arguably it was the intent of the Founders of our Constitution to make us just that.

Scary.

Yeah, scary indeed. Many seem to take too seriously what is written on that piece of paper.

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Quote from: bernard75 on July 09, 2013, 06:51:39 PM

Still astonished how many highly educated people here can be so irrational.

Meaning?

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Still astonished how many highly educated people here can be so irrational.

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You USA people are scary when it comes to your human right to bear arms. UK has the best gun laws - ban'em.

Arguably it was the intent of the Founders of our Constitution to make us just that.

Scary.

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Quote from: Peter Lambert on July 09, 2013, 06:20:21 PM

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Quote from: Rampion on July 08, 2013, 07:06:54 PM

We also have plenty of people that goes nuts for no apparent reason, but its just they do not even know how to use or where to find a gun, and any other weapon is simply uneffective and definitely not as cool as an "assault rifle" when planning to cause as much death as possible.

9/11 terrorists used boxcutters to hijack planes and kill thousands. Boston Marathon was hit by a bomb. There was a guy who got mad and drove his pickup truck into a crowd killing tens of people.

There are lots of ways to kill/hurt many people without using an assault riffle.

Oh, and actual assault riffles are already highly regulated under machine gun regulations, so very few mass shootings are done with assault riffles. That is why they had to invent the new category "assault weapon" to ban, which is essentially just "rifle which looks scary".

Don't forget the latest iteration of this nonsense, "assault pistol", which includes all pistols with a "scary high capacity magazine", which basically is everything being sold today.

Certainly it includes all the Glock pistols, which is the most popular product.

What is a high capacity for a pistol, more than 6? more than 10? just about any magazine fed pistol you can slap in an extended magazine in place of the regular one.

In the recent American bleeding heart liberal guncontrol clusterfuck, it was more than 7 in one version, 10 in another.

So....what do you mean, you didn't know???

ASSAULT PISTOLS ARE SCARY!!!

Just think of the children.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 09, 2013, 05:37:27 PM

Quote from: Peter Lambert on July 09, 2013, 12:21:23 PM

Quote from: Rampion on July 08, 2013, 07:06:54 PM

We also have plenty of people that goes nuts for no apparent reason, but its just they do not even know how to use or where to find a gun, and any other weapon is simply uneffective and definitely not as cool as an "assault rifle" when planning to cause as much death as possible.

9/11 terrorists used boxcutters to hijack planes and kill thousands. Boston Marathon was hit by a bomb. There was a guy who got mad and drove his pickup truck into a crowd killing tens of people.

There are lots of ways to kill/hurt many people without using an assault riffle.

Oh, and actual assault riffles are already highly regulated under machine gun regulations, so very few mass shootings are done with assault riffles. That is why they had to invent the new category "assault weapon" to ban, which is essentially just "rifle which looks scary".

Don't forget the latest iteration of this nonsense, "assault pistol", which includes all pistols with a "scary high capacity magazine", which basically is everything being sold today.

Certainly it includes all the Glock pistols, which is the most popular product.

What is a high capacity for a pistol, more than 6? more than 10? just about any magazine fed pistol you can slap in an extended magazine in place of the regular one.

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Quote from: Peter Lambert on July 09, 2013, 12:21:23 PM

Quote from: Rampion on July 08, 2013, 07:06:54 PM

We also have plenty of people that goes nuts for no apparent reason, but its just they do not even know how to use or where to find a gun, and any other weapon is simply uneffective and definitely not as cool as an "assault rifle" when planning to cause as much death as possible.

9/11 terrorists used boxcutters to hijack planes and kill thousands. Boston Marathon was hit by a bomb. There was a guy who got mad and drove his pickup truck into a crowd killing tens of people.

There are lots of ways to kill/hurt many people without using an assault riffle.

Oh, and actual assault riffles are already highly regulated under machine gun regulations, so very few mass shootings are done with assault riffles. That is why they had to invent the new category "assault weapon" to ban, which is essentially just "rifle which looks scary".

Don't forget the latest iteration of this nonsense, "assault pistol", which includes all pistols with a "scary high capacity magazine", which basically is everything being sold today.

Certainly it includes all the Glock pistols, which is the most popular product.

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Quote from: compro01 on July 09, 2013, 09:52:33 AM

2. 0% armed? So an armed deputy at Columbine doesn't count?

Deputy Neil Gardner WAS NOT at Columbine High School, he was AT Clement Park. Had he been on the Columbine High School campus, Harris and Klebold would have faced near-immediate resistance. When seconds count, the police are minutes away. Writ large, in the case of every massacre with more than 3 victims (IIRC the peer-reviewed/non-debunked research correctly, since off-duty police officers and armed civilians have stopped them, when already present at the scene).

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/columbine-armed-guards-schools-students-safe-article-1.1225796
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/columbine.cd/Pages/DEPUTIES_TEXT.htm

Revisionist history to support "gun control" needs to STOP. NOW.

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Quote from: Rampion on July 08, 2013, 07:06:54 PM

We also have plenty of people that goes nuts for no apparent reason, but its just they do not even know how to use or where to find a gun, and any other weapon is simply uneffective and definitely not as cool as an "assault rifle" when planning to cause as much death as possible.

9/11 terrorists used boxcutters to hijack planes and kill thousands. Boston Marathon was hit by a bomb. There was a guy who got mad and drove his pickup truck into a crowd killing tens of people.

There are lots of ways to kill/hurt many people without using an assault riffle.

Oh, and actual assault riffles are already highly regulated under machine gun regulations, so very few mass shootings are done with assault riffles. That is why they had to invent the new category "assault weapon" to ban, which is essentially just "rifle which looks scary".

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Quote from: Peter Lambert on July 09, 2013, 12:09:00 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on July 09, 2013, 12:02:40 PM

You see the guns in those pictures? There's 300 million of them in this country. That's the problem.

Problem because there is not one for everybody so some people have to share?

300 million is about enough for everyone to own a gun. See your failure to identify that?

Think of the people who voluntarily don't have a gun. They're unlikely to go get one. Now think of the people who have more than one gun. They're likely to go get more. And they keep upgrading, selling, etc.

Now, when a gun gets stolen, where did it come from? One of those who don't own guns nor want guns? No. It got stolen from one of those who own guns.

Now, when a gun is sold from one to another, where did the gun come from? One of those who don't own guns nor want guns? No. It came from one of those who own guns.

Now, what does the person who just had his gun stolen do? What does the person who just sold his gun do? He goes out buys another.

What conclusions can we draw from this? Avid gun owners are allowing guns to get into the hands of criminals. How wonderful.

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Quote from: Rampion on July 09, 2013, 11:30:33 AM

...........this mentality in the US where it seems that you are living in the wild west and you need to defend yourself. Defend your property, defend your family, defend your life. From what, for fucks sake? I think what you need to defend yourself and your society from is that obsession with guns and violence. There is some special olympics shit going on with the so-called "libertarians"... Just check that stupid gif in the post above. They compare the US with Israel, which is occupied territory and a warzone (*facepalm*), and where there are still school shooting episodes, even if rarer than it he US. Why don't those guys compare the US with Italy, Belgium, Spain, Greece.... Where no one is armed in schools, and no school shooting has ever happened? That should be the model, doesn't it?

Some of us in the USA live pretty close to war zones. The US / Mexican border.

I mentioned El Paso earlier. Juarez is the Mexican city across the border, basically the two are one society with a border in the middle.

So you REALLY WANT to talk about violence?

I don't think so.

Google Juarez+women+murder, please

Then report back.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on July 09, 2013, 12:02:40 PM

You see the guns in those pictures? There's 300 million of them in this country. That's the problem.

Problem because there is not one for everybody so some people have to share?

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