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legendary
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May 11, 2018, 10:14:51 AM
Got the 721 to be office friendly.
Using  --avalon7-voltage-level 12  and voltage offset of -2 after 1 hour it reports a hair over 5THs, temp of 88-89C and fan is at 3450RPM / 53%. Still audible but actually quieter than my dual-conversion UPS's. Haven't yet measured actual power draw but I'm guessing it is around 600w or less as the APW3++ PSU is at same temp as the room even running off of 120v.

Faboo! I have 2 more 721's and those will now go into our inspection room to replace the other uv/uc s7 I have running there. Being able to bring the other 721's back online certainly makes me feel better about turning off the R4 during summer Smiley
legendary
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May 10, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
Ja. Right now in the 70-75F office the fan is running around 60-65% and still makes a soft howling. As it ramps up to temp the sound starts around 55% speed so just a little direct under-volting & low offset should work perfectly - and knock the socks off of the 2 remaining uv/uc s7's I still have. It is already beating them for THs/Watts, just not anywhere near as quiet.

That just leave me where to put my other winter space heater - a R4 batch-6 that works perfect... Hate to just shut it off for the summer and lose the 8-9THs but starting to get too warm in my office...
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
May 10, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Yeah I think if you can get it running stable with fixed fan speed somewhere between 2500 to 3000 rpm, it should be a reasonable noise level machine.
legendary
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May 10, 2018, 03:56:50 PM
Ah ha! So the voltage value is not a step down from default like the A8 does but rather is being directly set by the command. No wonder the A721 dina like -1 Wink

Thanks, I'll try this tomorrow. I was running an uc/uv s7 in the office but since it provide ~3.5THs @ 930w and the A721 with -2 offset is doing 5.5THs @ 850W ya can see how it would be nice to go with the 721 if I can quiet it down a bit more.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
May 10, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
@NotFuzzyWarm

Here are the cgminer commands for the A7 series.

These are the rows 1421 -> 1481 in the cgminer code.

Code:
#ifdef USE_AVALON7
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon7-voltage",
    set_avalon7_voltage, NULL, &opt_set_avalon7_voltage,
    "Set Avalon7 default core voltage, in millivolts, step: 78"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon7-voltage-level",
    set_avalon7_voltage_level, NULL, &opt_set_avalon7_voltage_level,
    "Set Avalon7 default level of core voltage, range:[0, 15], step: 1"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon7-voltage-offset",
    set_avalon7_voltage_offset, NULL, &opt_set_avalon7_voltage_offset,
    "Set Avalon7 default offset of core voltage, range:[-2, 1], step: 1"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon7-freq",
    set_avalon7_freq, NULL, &opt_set_avalon7_freq,
    "Set Avalon7 default frequency, range:[24, 1404], step: 12, example: 500"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-freq-sel",
    set_int_0_to_5, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_freq_sel,
    "Set Avalon7 default frequency select, range:[0, 5], step: 1, example: 3"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon7-fan",
    set_avalon7_fan, NULL, &opt_set_avalon7_fan,
    "Set Avalon7 target fan speed, range:[0, 100], step: 1, example: 0-100"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-temp",
    set_int_0_to_100, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_temp_target,
    "Set Avalon7 target temperature, range:[0, 100]"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-polling-delay",
    set_int_1_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_polling_delay,
    "Set Avalon7 polling delay value (ms)"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-aucspeed",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_aucspeed,
    "Set AUC3 IIC bus speed"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-aucxdelay",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_aucxdelay,
    "Set AUC3 IIC xfer read delay, 4800 ~= 1ms"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-smart-speed",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_smart_speed,
    "Set Avalon7 smart speed, range 0-1. 0 means Disable"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-th-pass",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_th_pass,
    "Set A3212 th pass value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-th-fail",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_th_fail,
    "Set A3212 th fail value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-th-init",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_th_init,
    "Set A3212 th init value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_th_ms,
    "Set A3212 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-th-timeout",
    opt_set_uintval, opt_show_uintval, &opt_avalon7_th_timeout,
    "Set A3212 th timeout value"),
OPT_WITHOUT_ARG("--avalon7-iic-detect",
    opt_set_bool, &opt_avalon7_iic_detect,
    "Enable Avalon7 detect through iic controller"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon7-nonce-mask",
    set_int_24_to_32, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon7_nonce_mask,
    "Set A3212 nonce mask, range 24-32."),
OPT_WITHOUT_ARG("--no-avalon7-asic-debug",
    opt_set_invbool, &opt_avalon7_asic_debug,
    "Disable A3212 debug."),
OPT_WITHOUT_ARG("--avalon7-ssplus-enable",
    opt_set_bool, &opt_avalon7_ssplus_enable,
    "Enable avalon7 smart speed plus."),
#endif

The voltage level command has value range from 0 to 15.
legendary
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May 10, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
Anyone know if the A7 supports 'More options' voltage control like the A8 does?
I want to use a 721 in my office and with just the offset option set to -2 is certainly quieter than other settings but still rather audible.

 I tried --avalon7-voltage-level -1 and miner did not start. I see -ck's cgminer read me only mentions support for Avalons 2 & 3 and wonder if Canaan extended the commands to A7.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
May 06, 2018, 03:00:40 PM
A6 and A7 data communication is not compatible with each other,
and I would definitely put those two generations with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit.

And I would also run A7 and A8 generation miners with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit per generation.

7 and 8 are not compat either.  A 7 on an 8 controller or vice versa does nothing to the opposite, miner won't even start.

True.
member
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May 06, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
A6 and A7 data communication is not compatible with each other,
and I would definitely put those two generations with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit.

And I would also run A7 and A8 generation miners with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit per generation.

7 and 8 are not compat either.  A 7 on an 8 controller or vice versa does nothing to the opposite, miner won't even start.
jr. member
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May 02, 2018, 11:13:34 PM
thank for the replies everyone, just gonna grab another pi3
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
April 30, 2018, 05:20:08 PM
A6 and A7 data communication is not compatible with each other,
and I would definitely put those two generations with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit.

And I would also run A7 and A8 generation miners with a own Raspberry Pi controller unit per generation.
legendary
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April 30, 2018, 05:16:29 PM
has anyone attempted to run a 741 in a chain with a few 841s?

does the firmware make this impossible? I seemed to recall people mixing 6s/7s

thanks


I would use a second PI , i couldn't get my A6 or A7 to work to gather because of the cable form the miner to the AUC @ the miner end on the 741 the plug is bigger then the one for the A6 miner end if you can make a plug to either the A7 or A6 miner end form either miner that might work or try a USB HUB then plug that it into one PI with Custom software like Minera that might work . or edit one of the Avalon images to work with both a A6 and A7 and use a USB HUB that way but i that may not work well because of Avalon's software but should with minera or the black screen for CGminer running UBUNTU 16 .


I run my A6 and A 7 with Minera https://getminera.com/ but not on the same controller i use two PI's that are not RPI  and compile Ccminer 4.10 to run with both on two controllers , and haven't tired with a USB Powered HUB On the same controller .
hero member
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April 30, 2018, 02:06:26 AM
has anyone attempted to run a 741 in a chain with a few 841s?

does the firmware make this impossible? I seemed to recall people mixing 6s/7s

thanks
That does not work at the moment, you can chain A821 with A841 but not A7 with A8 series.
br
Tom
legendary
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April 29, 2018, 10:17:08 PM
has anyone attempted to run a 741 in a chain with a few 841s?

does the firmware make this impossible? I seemed to recall people mixing 6s/7s

thanks

I haven't run this setup. Most people just go with a second Pi for the cost versus potential issues/ lost feature.

Here is a post that explains things pretty well.
jr. member
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April 29, 2018, 07:32:19 PM
has anyone attempted to run a 741 in a chain with a few 841s?

does the firmware make this impossible? I seemed to recall people mixing 6s/7s

thanks
copper member
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April 15, 2018, 01:00:39 PM
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Thanks!  I have had the hardest time trying to find the Cooler Master.  Ordered a few extras in case more crash.  Thanks for the help!



Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim the quote from HagssFIN.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
April 15, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
Have 2 machines down right now with dead fans.  Anyone know where to get more fans?

Where are you located?

Here is a list of compatible cooling fans for the Avalon 7.

..

If your miner is out of warranty, here is a list of few compatible replacement cooling fan models:
  • Cooler Master A12038-60BB-4RP-F1
  • Delta Electronics QFR1212GHE
  • Delta Electronics QFR1212GHEXUM
  • Nidec V12E12BS1B5-07
  • Sanyo Denki 9GV1212P1J01
  • Shengjiu SG121238BS
  • Sunon PSD1212PMBXA-F-PWM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/troubleshooting-and-repair-guide-for-avalonminer-models-721-741-761-821-841-3224256

This one usually has good availability in electronics stores: Delta Electronics QFR1212GHE


Can you find any of these fans at your local market? Where are you located?

here is an European seller --> https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/delta-electronics-qfr1212ghe-190-210cfm-replacement-fan-for-asic-miners/

here is an US seller --> https://www.ebay.com/itm/6000RPM-Cooling-Fan-Replacement-4-pin-Connector-For-Antminer-Bitmain-S7-S9-Black/112634675926?hash=item1a398cc2d6:g:nIIAAOSwYVlaA7fm

copper member
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April 15, 2018, 12:34:17 PM
Have 2 machines down right now with dead fans.  Anyone know where to get more fans?
legendary
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March 24, 2018, 12:42:15 PM
Okay, but I am wondering what you are using to power the Rasp Pi, I can't remember for sure but you need to be powering the PI with a minimum of 2.5 AMP brick (plug for the wall).

That's all I can really help with without looking at the logs. Hopefully you can get this sorted.
jr. member
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March 24, 2018, 12:34:02 PM
Okay... That's weird. The yellow light indicates it going Idle. I'm guessing that this happens when you are running at 0 for voltage offset, and when it "restarts".

When it goes yellow like this does it just stay idle until you cycle power?

So a few more questions:

What are you using to power your Rasp PI at the wall?

Are you running just the 1 Miner?

Can you confirm that the airflow from your miner is exhausting from the front (where the fan and black shroud are)

The only times I remember getting the API connection refused are when I tried to point my miner at a pool and had input the Stratum information improperly; but you say it hashes fine at -1 and at 0 until it restarts so that shouldn't be the issue.

Can you post the API log while it is running?
Yes its stays yellow till i unplug it and plug it again. I am running just 1 miner.i have put the raspery pi direct in wall
legendary
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March 24, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Okay... That's weird. The yellow light indicates it going Idle. I'm guessing that this happens when you are running at 0 for voltage offset, and when it "restarts".

When it goes yellow like this does it just stay idle until you cycle power?

So a few more questions:

What are you using to power your Rasp PI at the wall?

Are you running just the 1 Miner?

Can you confirm that the airflow from your miner is exhausting from the front (where the fan and black shroud are)

The only times I remember getting the API connection refused are when I tried to point my miner at a pool and had input the Stratum information improperly; but you say it hashes fine at -1 and at 0 until it restarts so that shouldn't be the issue.

Can you post the API log while it is running?
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