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sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
All right, ETA JUNE. Someone dig up my old post saying realistically it will be in the hands of customers at the end of may. I called it.
newbie
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May 01, 2013, 06:38:10 PM
Lots things to update.

1. We are currently investigating on the three or so shipments that have shown up badly damaged to the customers. They do no appear to be simple delivery damage: they are not dents but some corners of some of the units have been snapped off. It takes a great amount of force to snap 3mm aluminum that's been bolted down with 0.9mm screws in a box with foam padding. We are not ruling out the possibility of sabotage.

In future, when receiving an Avalon package, if there is any rattling sound coming from inside, open the package in front of DHL/EMS and inspect the inside, if there is damage immediately return the package to the sender. The receiver must submit the complaint so us, the shipper can receive this information from DHL/EMS and we can investigate.

Do not worry, even if DHL/EMS does not compensate for the damages, once you send the damaged unit back, we will send you a replacement free of charge.



2. Our new SMT equipment has arrived, it is expected to be tweaked and fully functional by the second week of May. Expect an updated gallery of our facility soon. In the mean time we are going to send out ~20 units through our new shipping channels and test the waters. We expect to go full throttle once the new SMT line comes online.



3. We also recently released a new firmware that is our most stabled version yet, it also increases the performance by about 2Gh/s and lowers idle power consumption, see the wiki for full details. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#20130419
 
p.s. few people in the Avalon team is sick, so we are moving rather slow at the moment.
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 09:42:10 AM
Avalon look at what your neighbor in Shenzhen, ASICMiner has achieved with the delivery speed Wink
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
May 01, 2013, 09:36:36 AM
To put it in perspective, if what a lot of people are saying is true and Avalon has stolen (yes stolen because they are sold so they are not avalon's to use) 200 batch II machines and used them to mine the last 16 days, the amount of the theft is large.
That would give them between 15 and 20% of the network or 540-720 btc per DAY.   That is over $1M in the last 15 days.

We all know that FriedCat pays dividends every wednesday.   I think 200 people (max since some ordered more than one) are owed this $1MM.  That is a nice dividend of $50,000 each.   
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 09:19:50 AM
The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.
As a great poet once said:

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

Zen people, zen.

I like very much the poem and all zen stuff, thanks for posting, that does not make it easy because we all know they are mining, its bright clear, they said this themselves in the last newsletter they would do it a few days and that would help get the machines we funded done. Totally comprehensible, they are working for us, avalon exists because of we all here funded Icarus, Lancelot *both pre-mined and delivery with very very little delay* and now we have to wait the new shiny hot air blowing toy.

BTC is stronger, the network safer, no one is complaining about the success of this enterprise, but the full-of-rigmarole-newsletters, delay and repetitive schedule missing --those guys really enjoyd the holidays-- let alone the language avalon public man uses to communicate with their costumers(sic) should have been very different from the start. Some people should visit more the ASICMINER thread and learn how to deal with the people that make big projects possible. Basically, when you have money and fame you should at least try to be a gentleman too. I miss the days we could deal direct with the great ngzhang and have a straight conversation. But what can we do? Facts of life, facts of life.

Peace.

I like how this thread is going.  Smiley

Be still now
I am with you,
I am deep within you;
You are at peace.
You cannot be harmed;
You will not suffer.
Breathe deeply,
Breathe in the healing love of the universe,
And breathe out the sickness which has taken you.
I am with you.


...okay so that is DJ Shadow (blood on the motorway), but I love it, and it works here people!  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 434
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May 01, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
No, they said they had a decision to make after batch 2. To mine or to keep selling units to fund their development ( of gen2 maybe?). Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I read  that march newsletter.

Edit but yes, they could be mining no matter how you interpret their newsletter. Hash rate has been climibing.
legendary
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May 01, 2013, 07:46:11 AM
As a great poet once said:

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

Zen people, zen.

I like very much the poem and all zen stuff, thanks for posting, that does not make it easy because we all know they are mining, its bright clear, they said this themselves in the last newsletter they would do it a few days and that would help get the machines we funded done. Totally comprehensible, they are working for us, avalon exists because of we all here funded Icarus, Lancelot *both pre-mined and delivery with very very little delay* and now we have to wait the new shiny hot air blowing toy.

BTC is stronger, the network safer, no one is complaining about the success of this enterprise, but the full-of-rigmarole-newsletters, delay and repetitive schedule missing --those guys really enjoyd the holidays-- let alone the language avalon public man uses to communicate with their costumers(sic) should have been very different from the start. Some people should visit more the ASICMINER thread and learn how to deal with the people that make big projects possible. Basically, when you have money and fame you should at least try to be a gentleman too. I miss the days we could deal direct with the great ngzhang and have a straight conversation. But what can we do? Facts of life, facts of life.

Peace.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 255
May 01, 2013, 07:33:15 AM
The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.

I think detachment is a skill that us westerns find difficult; especially the detachment from outcomes. 

They may be having issues with their new process, but I have full faith that Avalon will continue along their path of providing high quality products in a timely manner (at least compared to their competition  Wink).
full member
Activity: 238
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May 01, 2013, 07:15:23 AM
The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 01, 2013, 07:07:16 AM
给avalon团队的一封信

有以下几个问题我想了解:
*我的信息是不是佚名的?
*我是不是有一个完整的经营许可?
*我有没有给所有运到中国的货物提供发票?
*出口清关我做的对不对?
*所有的税我都付了么?
*我要不要让我的投资者发火?


兄台, 我理解您的感受, 也明白您问题的含义. 但我在此拜托您, 一定要忍耐, 不要有进一步的过激言行. 因为, 会有太多的人受到牵连. 我不清楚您订购的是第几批avalon, 我订购的是第一批avalon, 到目前为止我尚且有8台机器没有收到, 所以, 我受的"委屈"比您的更为深重, 我尚且能忍受, 您一定也能做到.

换个角度考虑, ngzhang是智慧人, 他若只考虑挣钱的话, 完全有更为简单安全的方法: 把顾客的预付款一概退回去, 用自己生产的avalon自己挖矿卖, 这不是挣钱最快的方法吗? 而且, 还会有谁有资格对他指指点点?

我估计, 目前发货延迟可能是元器件供货渠道不顺畅, 或正在安装调试新的生产线. 所以, 我希望大家都再耐心等待. 也许下一周有顺丰快递送货到您家门也不是没有可能.     
但愿你说得对!
Hope you are right!
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
May 01, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
The Chinese culture is really one of its own.
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
May 01, 2013, 06:39:36 AM
给avalon团队的一封信

有以下几个问题我想了解:
*我的信息是不是佚名的?
*我是不是有一个完整的经营许可?
*我有没有给所有运到中国的货物提供发票?
*出口清关我做的对不对?
*所有的税我都付了么?
*我要不要让我的投资者发火?


兄台, 我理解您的感受, 也明白您问题的含义. 但我在此拜托您, 一定要忍耐, 不要有进一步的过激言行. 因为, 会有太多的人受到牵连. 我不清楚您订购的是第几批avalon, 我订购的是第一批avalon, 到目前为止我尚且有8台机器没有收到, 所以, 我受的"委屈"比您的更为深重, 我尚且能忍受, 您一定也能做到.

换个角度考虑, ngzhang是智慧人, 他若只考虑挣钱的话, 完全有更为简单安全的方法: 把顾客的预付款一概退回去, 用自己生产的avalon自己挖矿卖, 这不是挣钱最快的方法吗? 而且, 还会有谁有资格对他指指点点?

我估计, 目前发货延迟可能是元器件供货渠道不顺畅, 或正在安装调试新的生产线. 所以, 我希望大家都再耐心等待. 也许下一周有顺丰快递送货到您家门也不是没有可能.     
hero member
Activity: 682
Merit: 500
May 01, 2013, 05:10:28 AM
We are already over their worst possible outcome...
And no newsletter. It's starting to get scaring.

You know what my biggest hope is? A crash to 50-10$, so that i can buy cheap coins and forget about the ones the avalon should mine.

Yeah I feel you buddy, but I can't help but feel that everything will be A-Okay  Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1001
May 01, 2013, 03:56:43 AM
Quote from: Bitsyncom
I think next time in the future like with batch two, I will only announce things at their worst possible outcome, so people won't complain as much and there's nothing to troll. e.g.
We are already over their worst possible outcome...
And no newsletter. It's starting to get scaring.

You know what my biggest hope is? A crash to 50-10$, so that i can buy cheap coins and forget about the ones the avalon should mine.
hero member
Activity: 682
Merit: 500
May 01, 2013, 02:46:15 AM
Quote from: Bitsyncom
I think next time in the future like with batch two, I will only announce things at their worst possible outcome, so people won't complain as much and there's nothing to troll. e.g.
donator
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Poor impulse control.
May 01, 2013, 12:32:57 AM
给avalon团队的一封信

有以下几个问题我想了解:
*我的信息是不是佚名的?
*我是不是有一个完整的经营许可?
*我有没有给所有运到中国的货物提供发票?
*出口清关我做的对不对?
*所有的税我都付了么?
*我要不要让我的投资者发火?
这些问题是不可能得到回答的
当我们满怀希望的等待avalon的时候
我们并没有得到足够的尊重
在他们眼中 我们只是屌丝 是靠他们赚钱的最底层
所以 我们做的只能是继续等待
我从不质疑NGZHANG ,我只希望avalon早日到达

Is impossible to answer these questions
When we are hopefully waiting for avalon
We didn't get enough respect
In their eyes we are just at the bottom of prick silk is to rely on them to make money
So we can do is to wait
I never questioned NGZHANG, I only hope that avalon will soon arrive

Is "prick silk" really some kind of swear word? What does it mean? Where can I buy some?
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
May 01, 2013, 12:30:12 AM
屌丝帮顶
没有千千万万的屌丝,也不会有比特币的今天
我们只是要一个延期发货的答复,仅此而已!


Quote
Cock wire Bangding
Thousands of Cock wire, there will not be Bitcoin
We just have to answer a deferred delivery, and nothing more!

wut?
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 01, 2013, 12:21:00 AM
屌丝帮顶
没有千千万万的屌丝,也不会有比特币的今天
我们只是要一个延期发货的答复,仅此而已!
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
April 30, 2013, 11:12:49 PM
给avalon团队的一封信

有以下几个问题我想了解:
*我的信息是不是佚名的?
*我是不是有一个完整的经营许可?
*我有没有给所有运到中国的货物提供发票?
*出口清关我做的对不对?
*所有的税我都付了么?
*我要不要让我的投资者发火?
这些问题是不可能得到回答的
当我们满怀希望的等待avalon的时候
我们并没有得到足够的尊重
在他们眼中 我们只是屌丝 是靠他们赚钱的最底层
所以 我们做的只能是继续等待
我从不质疑NGZHANG ,我只希望avalon早日到达

Is impossible to answer these questions
When we are hopefully waiting for avalon
We didn't get enough respect
In their eyes we are just at the bottom of prick silk is to rely on them to make money
So we can do is to wait
I never questioned NGZHANG, I only hope that avalon will soon arrive
vip
Activity: 756
Merit: 503
April 30, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
给avalon团队的一封信

有以下几个问题我想了解:
*我的信息是不是佚名的?
*我是不是有一个完整的经营许可?
*我有没有给所有运到中国的货物提供发票?
*出口清关我做的对不对?
*所有的税我都付了么?
*我要不要让我的投资者发火?

Quote
To the letter of the Avalon team

There are several issues I would like to know:
* My information is Anonymous?
* I am not a complete business license?
* I have to provide invoices for all goods shipped to China?
* Export clearance I do right?
* All taxes I have to pay it?
* I want to let my investors get angry?

wut?
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