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Topic: Avalon batch [2] countdown! - page 68. (Read 141540 times)

sr. member
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May 07, 2013, 10:37:33 AM
And yet, notice the conspicuous absence of any trolls calling for heads to roll.

Almost no outrage whatsoever.  Curious, no?

They must be all worn out after meticulously trolling each and every BFL thread.   Cheesy
hero member
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May 07, 2013, 10:10:41 AM
any news on those 20 units tracking? are they chinese or non-chinese orders?

they are in the same place same as the first 53 from batch 1.
legendary
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May 07, 2013, 08:35:17 AM
any news on those 20 units tracking? are they chinese or non-chinese orders?

Not existent.
legendary
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May 07, 2013, 08:32:06 AM
any news on those 20 units tracking? are they chinese or non-chinese orders?
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
May 07, 2013, 05:29:14 AM
One thing's for sure, if this is so that they can ship them themselves with tracking numbers instead of sending out ghost shipments with no guarantees, I think it should be considered a step in the right direction.
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Circle gets the Square
May 07, 2013, 05:25:47 AM
Would be nice to have more updates, but it's very unlikely that's going to happen.

It's the second week of May today though, so really there should be an update on the way or (hopefully) a trickle of tracking numbers.
legendary
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May 07, 2013, 05:07:54 AM
I personally think that they didn't/don't have any bad intentions. They just wanted to produce batch 2 on their own production line - and guess what, that of course is a complex operation which causes the one or other delay.
I would however appreciate being informed brutally honest about the status and given a choice to outsource some production steps - I wouldn't mind an extra payment for that. Time if really of the essence here and I don't see that factor honoured like it should be.
legendary
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May 07, 2013, 04:30:49 AM
Can you really blame him?
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png

I still don't think that avalon batch 2/3 will have a negative roi, and i'm most worried about the production capacity of avalon itself, not of bfl.

they have plenty of capacity. They are in china. They just don't have the motivation to do it since they have the machines and your money/btc already.
Yes, this is what I was saying.
sr. member
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May 07, 2013, 03:15:13 AM
Since, TMSC has the specs they can easily produce many chip in a single day, could be avalon is getting all the qty and batch them together for 1 single production or they are waiting for their turn.
hero member
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May 06, 2013, 05:21:39 PM
Can you really blame him?
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png

I still don't think that avalon batch 2/3 will have a negative roi, and i'm most worried about the production capacity of avalon itself, not of bfl.

they have plenty of capacity. They are in china. They just don't have the motivation to do it since they have the machines and your money/btc already.

They have 2 batches of avalons plus all the chip orders.

they can do whatever they want.
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
May 06, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Read this.   From the ASIC Miner thread posted by inneedofaname

Informal, unofficial update on hashing

I asked friedcat to clarify a few things.
(1) Deployment rate will vary from 3 TH/s - 10 TH/s per week for the next few weeks.
(2) 20% at most of the second batch will be sold, so we will most likely see around 50 TH/s deployed.
(3) Full deployment by June is the plan.
(4) No power or network bottlenecks are expected.
(5) People can stop complaining about centralization because we will be solo-mining within the month.
hero member
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The Last NXT Founder
May 06, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
我在等2个星期 如果还收不到我的机器 我会联合一些用户采取过激行为 鱼死网破吧 我所有的财产都投入到了2批和3批 我不想一次次被欺骗了 尽管我一直是NGZ的支持者
我想知道你准备怎么做?
我还是会继续等的 除非到了机器到了已经到了回本都很困难的情况下 ,我从第一批就开始订购avalon 第2 3批 投入了所有的资产,我的期望很高,以为第一批机器已经到的情况下,第2批会更顺利些,但是如果蝴蝶大量发货 ,avalon继续推迟到7月甚至8月,我所有的投入就已经很危险,有的时候 爱恨就在一瞬间,我会举报他们非法集资 找官方介入调查。到现在为止,我还是梦想着五月中旬就会收到我的机器,哪怕是5月末。

到时候,你不会是一个人,如果南瓜总是无视我们的利益和要求,我们一起去抗争,鱼死网破,不死不休。请南瓜不要再伤害付款人的感情。

Uh huh?






I was referring to the last bit of the quote, which according to google translate is:

"In time, you will not be a person, if the pumpkin always ignore our interests and demands, we went to fight, break the death, die endlessly. Please pumpkin do not hurt the feelings of the payer."

While this may be some kind of taoist prayer, and is in some ways quite beautiful, I feel that I do not completely understand its import. Perhaps that's to be expected, but if not I was implying that I would like some clarification of this passage. I did not mean to imply that I wanted such clarification from Chuck Norris.



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newbie
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May 06, 2013, 03:55:27 AM
If it helps, "pumpkin" is "Avalon".

Not quite. NGZhang's name sounds like pumpkin in Chinese.
sr. member
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May 06, 2013, 02:56:23 AM
whats the word when will they ship batch 2 and not just 20 units?
No official word on this. Before the end of May if the new SMT line setting on its best situation.

Any sign of anybody who received one of the 20 units?

Pff..you wish
legendary
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May 06, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
whats the word when will they ship batch 2 and not just 20 units?
No official word on this. Before the end of May if the new SMT line setting on its best situation.

Any sign of anybody who received one of the 20 units?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
May 05, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
whats the word when will they ship batch 2 and not just 20 units?
No official word on this. Before the end of May if the new SMT line setting on its best situation.
hero member
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May 05, 2013, 09:56:30 PM
whats the word when will they ship batch 2 and not just 20 units?
sr. member
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Official sponsor of Microsoft Corp.
May 05, 2013, 05:55:55 AM
this little greedy guy having done his menace can eventually sink the boat Sad
legendary
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May 05, 2013, 05:51:29 AM
Can you really blame him?
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png

I still don't think that avalon batch 2/3 will have a negative roi, and i'm most worried about the production capacity of avalon itself, not of bfl.
full member
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May 05, 2013, 05:51:15 AM
Waiting mining hardware sucks but I have a little personal story to tell about this and lemonades stands someone here mentioned.

Back on 2012 when I was still in BR, I paid 50% for my whole batch of ICA, the only way I get them for a better price and maybe resell for others - later I managed to sell three - still a good chunk of bitcoins given away, though. Once I got the batch confirmation I flew to BJ to pick them up, the initial idea was to bring them back home but I think the wandering I had in the hutongs changed my mind. For about a week every morning I had the amazingly dirty and juicy street food as breakfast, long enough to learn some food names and get acquainted with the owners, I also for the first time in my life played ping pong in a such good condition table. Better than the tourney ones since they are located outdoors and made to resist and Im not talking about the metal ones full of rust or the stone ones we find everywhere in BJ. Anyway, a group of elders, probably some ping pong old masters were always there and of course I had my ass beaten hard. I moved on. After this week in an old half rebuilt neighborhood I changed plans, found out about the electricity rates and about the relentless smoke cloud that hovers entire asia too, finally got a nice apartment to live. Some day when the ngzhang phone was still a thing we could rely on, I contacted him to ask about the boards and he took me to see a nice stack of icarus of early batches he had mining, the same one we saw in his thread. I realized I was close. Out there in the balcony corner a tall a stack of cardboard. Imagine the trouble of packing and shipping all that stuff. Later we had dinner and I met the fancy chinese food. The dinner was great and like all fancy stuff, too costy to have everyday and people always busy that its not easy to have a cheap talk with anyone there.

Back to hardware, my batch was not ready yet, and he said I had to wait one more week, that was not the deal, no worries, and now I tell you all why I will always prefer the lemonade stand everytime I want lemonade. For that extra week of testing and mining Zhang gave me some yuans, not the mined bitcoins, but still a good sign of the guys fairness.

Why I did not order batch1? That seemed to me a huge bet I could not afford. No regrets and I jumped only at batch2 expecting only the reciprocity that everyone that trusted and sent them BTC again deserves.

Are u still in china?  china is cool right?
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