Avalon batch [2] countdown! - page 73.

cedivad

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Quote from: loshia on April 30, 2013, 01:09:00 PM

I am just saying that it is not the end of the world for me and for other people also. I agree that it is personal choice but my choice is to die poor i will not need the money in afterlife. So we have to spend them in one way or another. How can this happen working 7x24? Wink

Sure, money isn't as important as having a great life - however i think that we all agree on that and that it's not exactly in topic. Losing money surely doesn't bring to a better life.

loshia

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Quote from: wsoei on April 30, 2013, 10:51:42 AM

Quote from: loshia on April 30, 2013, 09:43:06 AM

Quote from: cedivad on April 30, 2013, 07:50:35 AM

Quote from: iammagicmike on April 30, 2013, 07:22:25 AM

and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

I actually ordered from BFL, i refused to pay back in september when i smelled problems.
Avalon failed to give any credible explanations for these delays, while, at the same time, the network hashrate is growing at the same exact speed they claimed they where manufacturing batch 1 products at.

What does that tells you?
That there is a shortage of capacitors and resistors in China?

You have a fab that produces money making machines. Do you shut the fab down for 2 months?

You are correct, i should never have tried to explain facts and expect explanations on bitcointalk, because i magically become the one to blame.

If there are 1000 trade ins paid each 75btc, that's 75kbtc. If they also start selling the "avalon mini" during these weeks, that's another 3000 (survey number) * 20 btc (made up price) = 60kbtc. That would bring the grand total of btc in preorders to avalon this year alone to 285kbtc. That's only 41 million dollars. All whitout delivering a single product paid this year. BFL looks like a virgin compared to that.

And i'm the one to blame!

Dude,

Sometimes there is something more important than money even though we are talking for millions!
For instance i am unplugging everything for 10 days for my vacation i do not care how much it will cost. I just do not wanna think about it.
Same can happen with anybody for any amount

Thats fine to say if it only effects you -- as a choice. When it involves other people, thats a different story. People have different priorities with their money. People are here to get ahead in the game. If money wasn't that big of a deal, they could just go back to a 9-5 job and forget bitcoin and be happy.

I am just saying that it is not the end of the world for me and for other people also. I agree that it is personal choice but my choice is to die poor i will not need the money in afterlife. So we have to spend them in one way or another. How can this happen working 7x24? Wink

DrG

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I have 206.5BTC on the line. Am I concerned - yes. Am I going to constantly worry about it - no. Worrying gets me nowhere and just messes up one's health.

Yifu will post an update when they are ready. Until then I'm letting the last of my GPUs squeak out a few BTC.

Minor Miner

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Quote from: bennybong on April 30, 2013, 10:35:40 AM

Quote from: Bitsyncom

I must confess it has been my intention to stay away from the forums from the start as I enjoy being in the state of "doing" rather than in the acts of "blowing hot air". Alas, I do what I must.

I think that sentiment is fine IF he did not take millions of dollars from hundreds of people to finance his venture. He is obliged to update these people until he fulfills what he agreed upon. He does not need to "blow hot air" on the forum, he has the email addresses and can send an TWO MINUTE update to these people. To not do so is rude.
One of the problems with bitcoin in general is the largest "bitcoin" companies are all run by people that do not give a shit about their customers which gives the impression that they only care about themselves. I would argue that FriedCat is the most responsive large business in bitcoin and then Mt Gox. This is sad.

Butterfly Labs (not a customer interaction model that yifu should emualate)

wsoei

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Quote from: loshia on April 30, 2013, 09:43:06 AM

Quote from: cedivad on April 30, 2013, 07:50:35 AM

Quote from: iammagicmike on April 30, 2013, 07:22:25 AM

and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

I actually ordered from BFL, i refused to pay back in september when i smelled problems.
Avalon failed to give any credible explanations for these delays, while, at the same time, the network hashrate is growing at the same exact speed they claimed they where manufacturing batch 1 products at.

What does that tells you?
That there is a shortage of capacitors and resistors in China?

You have a fab that produces money making machines. Do you shut the fab down for 2 months?

You are correct, i should never have tried to explain facts and expect explanations on bitcointalk, because i magically become the one to blame.

If there are 1000 trade ins paid each 75btc, that's 75kbtc. If they also start selling the "avalon mini" during these weeks, that's another 3000 (survey number) * 20 btc (made up price) = 60kbtc. That would bring the grand total of btc in preorders to avalon this year alone to 285kbtc. That's only 41 million dollars. All whitout delivering a single product paid this year. BFL looks like a virgin compared to that.

And i'm the one to blame!

Dude,

Sometimes there is something more important than money even though we are talking for millions!
For instance i am unplugging everything for 10 days for my vacation i do not care how much it will cost. I just do not wanna think about it.
Same can happen with anybody for any amount

Thats fine to say if it only effects you -- as a choice. When it involves other people, thats a different story. People have different priorities with their money. People are here to get ahead in the game. If money wasn't that big of a deal, they could just go back to a 9-5 job and forget bitcoin and be happy.

bennybong

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Quote from: Bitsyncom

I must confess it has been my intention to stay away from the forums from the start as I enjoy being in the state of "doing" rather than in the acts of "blowing hot air". Alas, I do what I must.

loshia

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Quote from: cedivad on April 30, 2013, 07:50:35 AM

Quote from: iammagicmike on April 30, 2013, 07:22:25 AM

and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

I actually ordered from BFL, i refused to pay back in september when i smelled problems.
Avalon failed to give any credible explanations for these delays, while, at the same time, the network hashrate is growing at the same exact speed they claimed they where manufacturing batch 1 products at.

What does that tells you?
That there is a shortage of capacitors and resistors in China?

You have a fab that produces money making machines. Do you shut the fab down for 2 months?

You are correct, i should never have tried to explain facts and expect explanations on bitcointalk, because i magically become the one to blame.

If there are 1000 trade ins paid each 75btc, that's 75kbtc. If they also start selling the "avalon mini" during these weeks, that's another 3000 (survey number) * 20 btc (made up price) = 60kbtc. That would bring the grand total of btc in preorders to avalon this year alone to 285kbtc. That's only 41 million dollars. All whitout delivering a single product paid this year. BFL looks like a virgin compared to that.

And i'm the one to blame!

Dude,

Sometimes there is something more important than money even though we are talking for millions!
For instance i am unplugging everything for 10 days for my vacation i do not care how much it will cost. I just do not wanna think about it.
Same can happen with anybody for any amount

bennybong

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Quote from: iammagicmike on April 30, 2013, 07:22:25 AM

Quote from: cedivad on April 29, 2013, 06:49:35 AM

I sincerely don't understand why I'm being criticized for my posts where I simply underline facts and demand for explainations.
I think that I will liquidate it as a failed trolling attempt.

I'll explain why.

You aren't saying anything with any real value. Everyone who is waiting for an Avalon is very excited to receive it. Publicly asking Yifu for an update may or may not help us receive an update but publicly accusing Yifu and Avalon of corruption and fraud is uncalled for.

I wouldn't reply to your comments either, it would just be a waste of time. If Yifu responded with Hey Cedivad, I'm very sorry but we have met some delays and we haven't shipped your order yet, we plan to ship on XX/XX/XX. I would expect that, based on your previous posts, that you would be quite upset and continue to explain how terrible Avalon and Yifu are.

So is it worth his time to update you if it's just going to make you more upset? No! The only way you'll be happy is when you receive news that your Avalon has shipped. So I'd rather he focus his time on shipping the Avalons rather than answering your posts. Yifu is likely busy with more important things than answering your aggressive post. Let the man work, you'll get your Avalon soon enough, and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

+1

They will come...

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Quote from: Bitsaurus on April 30, 2013, 01:00:34 AM

Quote from: monkee on April 29, 2013, 09:50:34 AM

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Schlemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated.
We're gonna do it!
Give us any chance, we'll take it.
Give us any rule, we'll break it.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin' it our way.
Nothin's gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We're gonna make our dreams come true,
Doin' it our way.
There is nothing we won't try,
Never heard the word impossible.
This time there's no stopping us.
We're gonna do it.
On your mark, get set, and go now,
Got a dream and we just know now,
We're gonna make our dream come true.
And we'll do it our way, yes our way.
Make all our dreams come true,
And do it our way, yes our way,
Make all our dreams come true
For me and you.

initially the "5, 6, 7, 8" prompted me to go looking for how to spell "Schlemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated" but the lyrics to this song hit me as strangely fitting so i posted them all, lol.

*edit* added http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZXjY5rTHg for those unfamiliar w/ this classic

Great, now that stupid song is in my head. Gotta go watch Facts of Life or Different Strokes theme songs...

it's hard to read without singing it to yourself, right?

i think your strategy may just get more songs stuck in your head but best of luck!

cedivad

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Quote from: iammagicmike on April 30, 2013, 07:22:25 AM

and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

I actually ordered from BFL, i refused to pay back in september when i smelled problems.
Avalon failed to give any credible explanations for these delays, while, at the same time, the network hashrate is growing at the same exact speed they claimed they where manufacturing batch 1 products at.

What does that tells you?
That there is a shortage of capacitors and resistors in China?

You have a fab that produces money making machines. Do you shut the fab down for 2 months?

You are correct, i should never have tried to explain facts and expect explanations on bitcointalk, because i magically become the one to blame.

If there are 1000 trade ins paid each 75btc, that's 75kbtc. If they also start selling the "avalon mini" during these weeks, that's another 3000 (survey number) * 20 btc (made up price) = 60kbtc. That would bring the grand total of btc in preorders to avalon this year alone to 285kbtc. That's only 41 million dollars. All whitout delivering a single product paid this year. BFL looks like a virgin compared to that.

And i'm the one to blame!

iammagicmike

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Quote from: kaerf on April 29, 2013, 04:30:19 PM

Quote from: FarmerGreene on April 29, 2013, 02:18:38 PM

Guys, calm down. Avalon has earned the benefit of the doubt here. They say they're shipping Batch 2 and I believe them.

Why?

Bitsyncom has a very consistent track record of missing deadlines all while spitting in customers' faces.

Source?

iammagicmike

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Quote from: cedivad on April 29, 2013, 06:49:35 AM

I sincerely don't understand why I'm being criticized for my posts where I simply underline facts and demand for explainations.
I think that I will liquidate it as a failed trolling attempt.

I'll explain why.

You aren't saying anything with any real value. Everyone who is waiting for an Avalon is very excited to receive it. Publicly asking Yifu for an update may or may not help us receive an update but publicly accusing Yifu and Avalon of corruption and fraud is uncalled for.

I wouldn't reply to your comments either, it would just be a waste of time. If Yifu responded with Hey Cedivad, I'm very sorry but we have met some delays and we haven't shipped your order yet, we plan to ship on XX/XX/XX. I would expect that, based on your previous posts, that you would be quite upset and continue to explain how terrible Avalon and Yifu are.

So is it worth his time to update you if it's just going to make you more upset? No! The only way you'll be happy is when you receive news that your Avalon has shipped. So I'd rather he focus his time on shipping the Avalons rather than answering your posts. Yifu is likely busy with more important things than answering your aggressive post. Let the man work, you'll get your Avalon soon enough, and just be glad you didn't order from BFL.

kano

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Quote from: uhoh on April 30, 2013, 06:54:59 AM

I reckon tomorrow's update will just be a picture of a warehouse with 600 fully built avalons ~~ready to go~~ mining

Go Team Avalon..... don't let us down!

FTFY

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Quote from: uhoh on April 30, 2013, 06:54:59 AM

I reckon tomorrow's update will just be a picture of a warehouse with 600 fully built avalons ready to go

Go Team Avalon..... don't let us down!

1200, batch #3 is close to shippment date Wink

af_newbie

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Rodrigo,

Do you know if the trade-in boards are still coming in? Maybe they gave trade-in customers 2-4 weeks to send their boards?

IMHO, they are working on testing and improving the product.

uhoh

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Circle gets the Square

I reckon tomorrow's update will just be a picture of a warehouse with 600 fully built avalons ready to go

Go Team Avalon..... don't let us down!

cedivad

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Quote from: ?? on ??

New target date: Avalon Batch 2 will be in the hands of most customers at the end of June 30th. Sad

Your source is Rodrigo? Because that's a firm affirmation if based on gossip...

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Quote from: Rampion on April 30, 2013, 04:45:52 AM

Quote from: rudrigorc2 on April 30, 2013, 04:28:08 AM

bad news: at least two more weeks(or one more diff adjustment if you prefer), you heard it here first. Sad

Source pls

the source is good source, and I guess this is batch2 first wave shipping date, they are here everyday they can confirm if they think its the right thing do to.

and at this point that the schedule is gone your choices are: choose to believe or not on what I heard and wait the bulk email. I would be very surprised if they deliver before that date to anyone outside the tradein program, note that the special costumers delivered fpga 2 weeks ago and are still waiting contact. and now I said this maybe they confirm this date or continue to postone, who knows? did I just gave whoever/whatever is behind the delay more time to finish, improve, mine or whatever?

avalon just write one more email and hit submit, we did our part!

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