Topic: Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner - page 19. (Read 32830 times)

I've got mine too, yep that's ASIC

wouldn't ASIC are under the heatsinkture?

September? Source? Someone found the Baikal dev address in the miner firmware. They've registered that address on Dec. 10th on supportxmr.com, mined 3680 XMR so far and are still actively mining with up to 5MH

Seems they started shipping yesterday...

So those folk that have these arriving this week...will you have enough time to ROI before the various 'supposed' forks?

Being FPGA miners, will Baikal have enough tech cred...to make firmware updates for such forks to complicate the forking coin threat?

just watching from the sidelines...but curious

brad

I wouldnt call it garbage considering that the main purpose of this device  is not mining, also you save 40 dollars but calculate that for 100 or even 1000 devices is it irrelevant this savings when your a big player, you actually save a lot of money.
The problem is that no one so far want to release public bitstreams for FPGAs(yes people are mining on FPGAs for months now), greedy bastards , also very few people actually can do efficient VHDL or Verilog code for FPGAs but in future if the crypto market is not doomed this will change.

recived 4pics (1+3),thank you asicminermarket.com 
https://imgur.com/a/VNpkg

So on the Giant-N control panel, there are three hashing boards, and each has 32 ASIC's.  The clock speed of the chips defaults to 200MHz with no way to change the clock speed.

Each board hashes at 6700 H/s.  That is 209 H/s per ASIC.  Assuming 10 clock cycles per loop and 524288 loops in the cryptonight algorithm, it would be 38 H/s per ASIC at 200MHz, per instance of the algorithm.  This implies there are five to six instances of the algorithm running per ASIC, or 10-12MB of internal RAM in each chip, which is quite a lot.  

Thank you all the buyers of this crap to help make market more centralized and Bitmain will domain everything

The Baikal scumbags have been mining since September '17,  I think bitmain also hopped on in January '18.  If monero didn't announce the
Fork,  Im sure these 2 scumbags would still be quietly mining 75% of all the new monero blocks without saying a word.  You can figure this out easy because 75% of the monero blocks don't go to any known pools anymore.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kawpMzQYYyNXxCYqWz7L5l--OoxvbG_a
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Hv6hN_3pEHcumMhva4WOPF2_D_ZxmNzM

I got my two Giant-N.  The chips are ASICs (see above photos).  They are in similar QFN packages as the X10 chips, and like the X10 there is no clock/crystal next to the chips so they have internal clock generators (unlike FPGA's which need external clocks).

Again you're not very bright. 21Mh/s @ 18W vs 22Mh/s @ 65W. 65W - 18W = 47W saved. 47W in a year is 40USD. That is garbage performance. Do a little math next time. You save 40 USD in electricity but pay 350USD for the board. It's garbage. Like I mentioned if the hashrate was double or half the price then it would make sense. As it stands it's not doing anything to GPUs.

Not to mentioned the GTX 10 series launched over 2 years ago. Once the GTX 20 series & Navi series launch will make that little board useless.

Don't get me wrong FPGAs can and probably will outdo GPUs at some point, but as it stands that particular board is most definitely not.

Would you say that these have not been priorly used to mine? (like in other cases)

Can't wait for the fork ^^. Freedom for the decentralised coins ^^

- A 51% attack will not prevent the hardfork fork.  A 51% attack could attempt to alter the chain before the fork creating some issues. Either way the old chain is still going to be alive, so ASIC miners can continue on it. However, there will be no one to sell to, and no exchanges supporting the old chain( I assume). No community consensus. The majority of the Monero  community don't just "dislike" ASICs and Bitmain, they "hate" them. It's War.
- Don't assume just because Bitmain haven't released exact hash rates/ power consumption that there x3 isn't online yet! That probably just means there are firmware updates to come before the public release.   

So I should receive my 2 x GiantN in a few hours (according to the courier).  I will report back.  I do have a question about the Monero fork though.  We know from the X10 reverse engineering thread that even X10's shipped in November have references to the Giant-N and cryptonight in their code, so it is fair to assume Baikal has been hashing cryptonight since November.  Now what would YOU do if you were baikal, facing the hard fork?  We know the X10 is ASIC's, not FPGA's, we don't know about the Giant-N (yet; I might take it apart), but assuming the Giant-N is ASIC, then the obvious thing for Baikal to do would be to switch all their (hundreds) of Giant-N machines to Monero (off of all other cryptonight coins), and set up some master nodes and gain 51% of the network hash rate.  Then, when the fork happens, the fork fails because the V7 algorithm doesn't have 51% of the hash rate.  Am I missing something here?  I mean the fact that Bitmain doesn't even know the exact hash rate or power consumption of their X3 means it isn't even online yet, so it is fair to assume Baikal is the only company capable of attacking the V7 fork with real hardware.   At the current Monero net hash rate it would take Baikal 21,880 Giant-N machines to gain 51% of the hashrate-- assuming not a single of their Giant-N are already hashing Monero.  Perhaps that's unrealistic.

3 days ago the MOQ was 6..ahahah they are so stupid and even the hashrate is shit.

Don't try to scam people
https://asicminermarket.com/product/baikal-giant-x10-dash-coin-miner-2batch/
This is the real website and has them for $3099 not $2099

No I didn't, but I did pay $3800 for 1 piece that I just received today btw...

Did you get responses by email or skype?  I want to order again if I can get the 3 for 3800

Have you received such emails？
”Dear user
Thank you for your trust in us.
Your product has been sent.
We received offers from manufacturers to give us the first batch of baikal giant N customers.
We give it to our customers. There is a plan, now you order again for 3800$/pcs, we will send 3pcs.
Remark your order number.
Order link:
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2 Abandon the compensation program. 100$ coupon: 2018100GIANTN

Giant B 2100$/pcs
Order link
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Giant x10 2099$/pcs
Order link:
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Thank you for your trust in us.

ASICMINERMARKET team”

check the spam folder.

How dd you go about ordering the 3 units for $3,800?  I did not receive the email and they have not responded to me via email or skype

Again you dont read properly, dont look at the hash rate look at the power consumption 18W for 21Mh is pretty awesome cant beat that with a GPU unless you have a free electricity somehow , also not all models 1060 6Gb can pull 22Mhs on 65W in my experience.

Anyway about Monero's devs, they are playing clever game and are successfully fooling most of the people with the recent algo change announcement if anyone read it carefully this stands out:


Thats not enough to stop ASICs manufacturers, the asics are already designed they just need to make small changes in the already existing design and spin off another batch and mine for months prior to publicly announced it....