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Topic: Baikal Giant X10 - page 149. (Read 132901 times)

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October 25, 2017, 05:16:16 PM
Nice swiss army miners Smiley
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October 25, 2017, 05:09:50 PM
Give me some reasons why you buy BAIKAL X10 ?
They didn't fuckkk you good with Giant+
They sent you defect baikals and you have to pay to send them back because the CAN !!
IF YOU ASK THEM FOR REFUND --> They don't bother to answer.

Better keep your bitcoins, you earn much more money !
If i wasn't buying BAIKALS in july I could have the double money in BTC !
THINK BEFORE YOU BUY.

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October 25, 2017, 04:41:25 PM
Guys, i just got this from the bank i wired the payment.
"Dear mr.....
I am writing to you from ..... Bank in connection with an ordered currency transfer from company account to Baikal Holdings in Hong Kong. Our colleagues from the Central Payments Department have informed us that the correspondent bank, The Bank of New York Mellon, requires detailed information about the counterparty as it may be included in a list of high-risk customers who may be carrying out unauthorized activity.
 
Please find attached the necessary information you must provide to be forwarded to the correspondent bank:
 
THE FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS OF BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED (CITY AND
COUNTRY), OWNERSHIP INFORMATION (IF PRIVATELY
OWNED, ALL THE OWNERS NAME, ADDRESS, PLACE OF
BIRTH AND CITIZENSHIP/NATIONALITY / IF A
SUBSIDIARY, THE FULL NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE
PARENT COMPANY), ALL LOCATIONS (COUNTRIES) WHERE
THE ENTITY HAS OPERATIONS, THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE ORDERING CUSTOMER AND BENEFICIARY, A
DETAILED PURPOSE OF PAYMENT. PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN
ANY CONNECTION TO IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
IN RUSSIA, VESSEL-BAIKAL AND VESSEL-SUCCESS.

Keep in mind that a reply should be sent as soon as possible.
In addition, please send us a contract for the purchase of the machines and / or an invoice from the supplier."

Any comments?


https://www.export.gov/csl-search#/?q=baikal

4 results.

IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC
SUCCESS
FAR EAST AND BAIKAL REGION DEVELOPMENT FUND OJSC


Jesus Christ. what did I just say? This is the banking world trying to destroy crypto and create suspicion. I am glad I am in the airdrops for Deeponion as I believe that TOR and VPNs are going to become standard. The old world is trying to destroy the new world to hold onto their control.

Why would Baikal want to be part of this or encourage it?

I wonder what has changed at Baikal?

 Cry

It also deosn't help that Baikal chose to name themselves after a Russian arms dealer.
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October 25, 2017, 04:35:51 PM
Baikal must do rebranding now. No way to accept wires with the similar name which is under US sanctions. PAIN for all customers.
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October 25, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Guys, i just got this from the bank i wired the payment.
"Dear mr.....
I am writing to you from ..... Bank in connection with an ordered currency transfer from company account to Baikal Holdings in Hong Kong. Our colleagues from the Central Payments Department have informed us that the correspondent bank, The Bank of New York Mellon, requires detailed information about the counterparty as it may be included in a list of high-risk customers who may be carrying out unauthorized activity.
 
Please find attached the necessary information you must provide to be forwarded to the correspondent bank:
 
THE FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS OF BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED (CITY AND
COUNTRY), OWNERSHIP INFORMATION (IF PRIVATELY
OWNED, ALL THE OWNERS NAME, ADDRESS, PLACE OF
BIRTH AND CITIZENSHIP/NATIONALITY / IF A
SUBSIDIARY, THE FULL NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE
PARENT COMPANY), ALL LOCATIONS (COUNTRIES) WHERE
THE ENTITY HAS OPERATIONS, THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE ORDERING CUSTOMER AND BENEFICIARY, A
DETAILED PURPOSE OF PAYMENT. PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN
ANY CONNECTION TO IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
IN RUSSIA, VESSEL-BAIKAL AND VESSEL-SUCCESS.

Keep in mind that a reply should be sent as soon as possible.
In addition, please send us a contract for the purchase of the machines and / or an invoice from the supplier."

Any comments?


https://www.export.gov/csl-search#/?q=baikal

4 results.

IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC
SUCCESS
FAR EAST AND BAIKAL REGION DEVELOPMENT FUND OJSC


Jesus Christ. what did I just say? This is the banking world trying to destroy crypto and create suspicion. I am glad I am in the airdrops for Deeponion as I believe that TOR and VPNs are going to become standard. The old world is trying to destroy the new world to hold onto their control.

Why would Baikal want to be part of this or encourage it?

I wonder what has changed at Baikal?

 Cry
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October 25, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
They will not accept crypto either...I bought one of the first machines and two of every generation since. Still, they will not accept my crypto.

Most of you will appear on a National register now for making an international wire transfer. The banks will be taking your details for god knows what purposes. They have perfect permissions to pass all of these detail on to the authorities.  Undecided
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October 25, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
Guys, i just got this from the bank i wired the payment.
"Dear mr.....
I am writing to you from ..... Bank in connection with an ordered currency transfer from company account to Baikal Holdings in Hong Kong. Our colleagues from the Central Payments Department have informed us that the correspondent bank, The Bank of New York Mellon, requires detailed information about the counterparty as it may be included in a list of high-risk customers who may be carrying out unauthorized activity.
 
Please find attached the necessary information you must provide to be forwarded to the correspondent bank:
 
THE FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS OF BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED (CITY AND
COUNTRY), OWNERSHIP INFORMATION (IF PRIVATELY
OWNED, ALL THE OWNERS NAME, ADDRESS, PLACE OF
BIRTH AND CITIZENSHIP/NATIONALITY / IF A
SUBSIDIARY, THE FULL NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE
PARENT COMPANY), ALL LOCATIONS (COUNTRIES) WHERE
THE ENTITY HAS OPERATIONS, THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE ORDERING CUSTOMER AND BENEFICIARY, A
DETAILED PURPOSE OF PAYMENT. PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN
ANY CONNECTION TO IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
IN RUSSIA, VESSEL-BAIKAL AND VESSEL-SUCCESS.

Keep in mind that a reply should be sent as soon as possible.
In addition, please send us a contract for the purchase of the machines and / or an invoice from the supplier."

Any comments?


https://www.export.gov/csl-search#/?q=baikal

4 results.

IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC
SUCCESS
FAR EAST AND BAIKAL REGION DEVELOPMENT FUND OJSC
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October 25, 2017, 04:04:26 PM
I am cancelling the wire first thing in the morning...
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October 25, 2017, 04:02:27 PM
we've got similar questions from banking system about wire, have asked baikal answer these questions but no answer from them.. what is the game to answer this questions by ourselves or just cancel the wire?

Please provide the following information of beneficiary:

1. Detailed purpose of the payment:
2. Attestation as to whether this transaction involves, directly or
indirectly, debt or equity, such as but not limited to: a loan; letter
of credit; securities settlement; extension of credit; discount
notes/bills; stocks, bonds or share issuances:
IF ‘YES’ TO QUESTION 2 ABOVE:
3. Please provide the date of issue and date of maturity:
4. Please confirm whether this payment pertains to the provisioning of
goods or services
IF GOODS:
5. Please provide a description of the goods:
6. Please provide the date of title of ownership transferring to the
party originating the payment
IF SERVICES:
7. Please provide the date of the final invoice with regard to the
provisioning of these services:
8. Please confirm location where these services were provided / are to
be provided (including country and region, city, town or village)

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October 25, 2017, 03:10:19 PM
Im pretty sure their AK-47 department accepts bitcoin and/or cash as payment though. The pre orders get a free 100 round drum.

lol!
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October 25, 2017, 03:02:00 PM
Im pretty sure their AK-47 department accepts bitcoin and/or cash as payment though. The pre orders get a free 100 round drum.
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October 25, 2017, 01:28:14 PM
Guys, i just got this from the bank i wired the payment.
"Dear mr.....
I am writing to you from ..... Bank in connection with an ordered currency transfer from company account to Baikal Holdings in Hong Kong. Our colleagues from the Central Payments Department have informed us that the correspondent bank, The Bank of New York Mellon, requires detailed information about the counterparty as it may be included in a list of high-risk customers who may be carrying out unauthorized activity.
 
Please find attached the necessary information you must provide to be forwarded to the correspondent bank:
 
THE FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS OF BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED (CITY AND
COUNTRY), OWNERSHIP INFORMATION (IF PRIVATELY
OWNED, ALL THE OWNERS NAME, ADDRESS, PLACE OF
BIRTH AND CITIZENSHIP/NATIONALITY / IF A
SUBSIDIARY, THE FULL NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE
PARENT COMPANY), ALL LOCATIONS (COUNTRIES) WHERE
THE ENTITY HAS OPERATIONS, THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE ORDERING CUSTOMER AND BENEFICIARY, A
DETAILED PURPOSE OF PAYMENT. PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN
ANY CONNECTION TO IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
IN RUSSIA, VESSEL-BAIKAL AND VESSEL-SUCCESS.

Keep in mind that a reply should be sent as soon as possible.
In addition, please send us a contract for the purchase of the machines and / or an invoice from the supplier."

Any comments?


Amazing.
If you google "IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC", you will find that "Baikal" is a Russian enterprise and sells weapons.
I hope they are two different "baikal".   Grin
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October 25, 2017, 11:22:04 AM
It is funny that the guys in baikal ask not to mention Baikal, and they provide an account in Baikal's holding name.... Huh
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October 25, 2017, 11:20:37 AM
Guys, i just got this from the bank i wired the payment.
"Dear mr.....
I am writing to you from ..... Bank in connection with an ordered currency transfer from company account to Baikal Holdings in Hong Kong. Our colleagues from the Central Payments Department have informed us that the correspondent bank, The Bank of New York Mellon, requires detailed information about the counterparty as it may be included in a list of high-risk customers who may be carrying out unauthorized activity.
 
Please find attached the necessary information you must provide to be forwarded to the correspondent bank:
 
THE FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS OF BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED (CITY AND
COUNTRY), OWNERSHIP INFORMATION (IF PRIVATELY
OWNED, ALL THE OWNERS NAME, ADDRESS, PLACE OF
BIRTH AND CITIZENSHIP/NATIONALITY / IF A
SUBSIDIARY, THE FULL NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE
PARENT COMPANY), ALL LOCATIONS (COUNTRIES) WHERE
THE ENTITY HAS OPERATIONS, THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE ORDERING CUSTOMER AND BENEFICIARY, A
DETAILED PURPOSE OF PAYMENT. PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN
ANY CONNECTION TO IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC
IN RUSSIA, VESSEL-BAIKAL AND VESSEL-SUCCESS.

Keep in mind that a reply should be sent as soon as possible.
In addition, please send us a contract for the purchase of the machines and / or an invoice from the supplier."

Any comments?
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October 25, 2017, 10:36:45 AM
Yeah because buying from bitmain is way less stressful. Oh wait 100s if not 1000s of people have tried and failed and wasted hours of their life trying to get their website to work during their announced releases. This product is 2-3 weeks late but I havent spent hours refreshing pages to no avail. The only part for me that was stressful was waiting for confirmation of wire transfer. I would have had this same stress with bitmain. In this current market trying to buy any new asic at a reasonable price and without stress is impossible. It really does suck for the average joe like me who is trying to progress their home mining setup and everything is set up to favor the big boys. In 2 weeks these units will be on the streets and people will be over paying for them like everything else. No reason to bash Baikal or Bitmain this is just the world we are living in. We are all free to leave if we want but yet here we are.

cannot agree more...
especially on the wire transfer part, which is not really baikal or bitmain's issue, but the damn banks... all the banks, US banks, chinese banks, singapore banks...none of them could provide fast, transparent process of wire transfer...or  even secure...
just google "international wire transfer issue"... all the major us big banks provide really really POOR services...if you wait for 2 weeks and your fund is still not there, try to call the banks and wait 3 hours on the line, and finally someone answers, and will ask you for additional money to trace the transaction... seriously, i need to pay to ask where the hell my money is?
' Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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October 25, 2017, 10:26:53 AM
That was my thought as well. 1188 vs 1200 or 1215 with credit card. It can't be easy tracking all these wire transfers and making sure all orders match requested amounts and such.
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October 25, 2017, 10:22:48 AM
I would love to see a normal website storefront and more payment options. In this day and age it would be nice to see creditcards, paypal, and crypto payment options. I know wire transfers are a pain and scary for a lot of people.

credit card payment gateway, and paypal are very very experience for the merchants / sellers, and they usually need to pay 2 to 3 % of the transaction value, and paypal will add another 1 to 2 %... who wants that additional cost for small quantity high value transactions...
and maybe more importantly, to enable credit card payment or paypal, the merchant acquirers - usually banks will require very strict KYC (know your customer) process, which i don;t think most digital currency players are willing to go through  Tongue Grin Cheesy

 I guarantee they spend more money in wasted man hours with their goofy process than any 3% fee.  Why not just pass the fee on to the consumer if they want to use a credit card?  Or a ACH transfer.  You can buy a $3000 television online with a credit card without issues.  I don't see why a $1500 miner should be different.  Considering these things are always pre-order it would be nice to be able to put it on a credit card which effectively gives you a free 30-50 days to pay.
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Activity: 182
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October 25, 2017, 10:09:27 AM
Yeah because buying from bitmain is way less stressful. Oh wait 100s if not 1000s of people have tried and failed and wasted hours of their life trying to get their website to work during their announced releases. This product is 2-3 weeks late but I havent spent hours refreshing pages to no avail. The only part for me that was stressful was waiting for confirmation of wire transfer. I would have had this same stress with bitmain. In this current market trying to buy any new asic at a reasonable price and without stress is impossible. It really does suck for the average joe like me who is trying to progress their home mining setup and everything is set up to favor the big boys. In 2 weeks these units will be on the streets and people will be over paying for them like everything else. No reason to bash Baikal or Bitmain this is just the world we are living in. We are all free to leave if we want but yet here we are.
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October 25, 2017, 09:41:53 AM
good thing that i stayed away and focus on Bitmain products only.
sr. member
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Merit: 252
October 24, 2017, 02:43:09 PM
I would love to see a normal website storefront and more payment options. In this day and age it would be nice to see creditcards, paypal, and crypto payment options. I know wire transfers are a pain and scary for a lot of people.

As a merchant, paypal can quickly put you out of business. Paypal always sides on the side of scammers....but that a whole other story..
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